Yeh, that is a big omission from the Pro. I can't imagine Stern ignoring that and would expect that shows up in future code updates - just a different trigger. (Maybe a certain amount of right ramp shots, or a few VIP targets then activated by right ramp).

I dunno. Given that Aerosmith is pretty complete as-is, I'm not looking for many updates, and I doubt they would add something like that to the Pro. Besides there really is no analog to Elevator multiball where you have a ball up in the mini-playfield you're trying to keep there while you keep the others alive down below. I don't think they could make that work in an equivalent was for scoring on a Pro, which is probably why it's not there and likely never will be.

Big F'ing deal, so the Premium gets double scoring so what? I'm not going to argue Pro vs Premium. I was simply trying to help the guy in his decision to buy an AS and letting him know that the Pro is a killer game as well as the Premium model is also. I honestly don't see the point of your post unless it's to just try and start another argument with someone which seems to be what you do best on here. If you are going to butt in on a post, at least say something intelligent.

Both are great games. Premium/le owners are going to say it is the one. Pro owners are going to say they got the best value and a game that's just as good. Neither are wrong.

Bought the you realized ac/dc shouldn't have left

After 5 months, how is everyone liking the game?

I love mine. Aerosmith is a keeper for sure.

I had this issue too. Ball from upper playfield going down elevator shaft for the lock doesnt ever get to the lock. I used a magnet rod and found it eventually. A second ball however wouldnt spring that ball loose, they both got stuck.

I was wondering if anyone else was having the problem with the ball getting stuck in the lock. It's happening far too often. It goes in there and vanishes. Only way to get it out is to lift up the pf vertical. Can you elaborate on the plastic piece you put in?

That is one nice thing about the Pro - there's less stuff to go wrong. Probably the best choice for a location. I've come to love the upper playfield on my GOTLE, but it was a pain getting it to work 100%. It's the hidden "premium tax".

Here is what I did to my machine. The ball would catch air from the ridge in the Playfield and the one way gate and would get wedged in tight where the flipper coil assembly is. Hasn't happened since I added the plastic piece.

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I really like AS as a game and the LCD is awesome..... but I actually prefer KISS and think it shoots smoother as right ramp is a bit easier.

If I had room I would have both despite obvious similarities.

I think the right ramp is exactly the same. The big improvement for me over KISS is the code is better, the toys are better, and the scoop is much improved. I enjoyed my Kiss while I had it, but nothing about it is better the AS in my opinion other then the cool foil decals on the LE.

I have both and feel Kiss is a smoother playing machine, however the right ramp is just the opposite on mine. its much easier on my AS. While the layout is similar on the machines the game play is very different. I'd compare AS more to ST with touches of Metallica and Tron. Scoring is a lot more balanced on Kiss and the Playfiled multipliers are blast to earn/play.

Left ramp is much easier to hit on Kiss cause of the ball guide that help make the shot where as Aerosmith has post rubbers on each entrance.

You said "The Pro is outstanding though and not lacking anything IMO."

It IS lacking scoring features that the Premium has. I was just pointing out that your statement was misleading for someone considering both models. The Pro IS missing important things the Premium has that affect scoring.

That's all.

Zero problems with the Premium AS I maintain on location. No problems with any of the Stern Premiums on location except Metallica.

AS Premium is a dog for earnings so far on location, though. XMEN LE out earns it consistently.

What about the Smart button , i feel it does not do much it's already there so Stern needs to make it worth it, right ?

I keep watching video that you guys make , Thanks. I like what i see but not sold on the codes yet, anyone writing
some rule sheet ?

All the button currently does is launch the ball, abort multiball, and launch smart missiles. Unfortunately, getting a smart missile is a random award and so rare I've only seen it 2 or 3 times. So, yeah, the button is definitely under-utilized.

I have not even seen a smart missile yet so I have no idea what they even are. I can't tell you this though, the game is great fun and the code is pretty damn solid.

FYI: The Pro actually DOES have "2X Playfield Scoring" in the code.

I was able to get it as a mystery award from the scoop.

Hardly the same thing since you can start 2x scoring multiple times on the premium/LE and when you decide you want too, not by some random occurrence from the mystery scoop.

But that's different than "Double Scoring." I've gotten random 2X scoring on the scoop, but that's worded differently than double scoring from the upper playfield. It may even be stackable on the Prem/LE. And that aside, even if they were the same (which they aren't) a random award isn't the same as a skill award you can do on demand. So, yeah, there's still a handicap to scoring on the Pro.

Doesn't spelling Aerosmith on the pro start 2x scoring?

No it lights the "x" multiplier shots and lights the mystery scoop.

2x scoring on the upper playfield adds some strategy and higher scores on the premium, but it doesn't seem like that big a deal to me.

When I play against someone or my own high score, it's on the same machine, so as long s the rules are the same it's fine. Why would I compare pro scores to prem scores anyway?

You can get 2x and 3x scoring on the Pro during multiball by locking balls back in the toybox. I believe it ends though when multiball ends. Pick mine up next week, can't wait!!!

How do you start 2x scoring the premium?

Pretty sure 2x scoring is the same on all. It's double scoring which is only on the Pre/LE that you start by lighting all the targets on the mini-pf then hitting the upper orbit.

What's the difference between 2x and double?

Just had a good game were I got just below 600 mil and made it to medley. That is a really cool wizard mode. My only complaint right now is that they need to make the progress on sweet emotion saved. It's way too hard compared to the other songs. I had a huge walk this way score were I got 2x going and made 5 straight alternating ramp shots shot 4 was 20+ mil and shot five was almost 40 mil. Had everything completed except elevator mb and sweet emotion. By far the furthest I've made it in the game.

Great game that just needs a few minor polishes. I would also like to see song high scores recorded. Man does it have a tough lay out. The orbits and right ramp are some tough shots.

Aerosmith is great fun for sure. The shots are hard but once you get the feel of them you can make them pretty easily seems like and they are smooth as butter.......if your aim is on that is. The game is addictive and makes you want to keep playing. I almost had the first wizard mode last night, I was one song away.

Ive thought about that, but i think one of those songs needs to be hard - I see Sweet Emotion as kind of a mini wizard mode. I like the way all the songs difficulty varies from easy to hard.

Personally I think a couple of songs are too easy (is it Rats that only needs one hit and a final shot to complete?)

I also like that Sweet Emotion is probably the best track and because its hard I dont play it all the time, meaning I dont get sick of it.

You can't stack 2x and 2x. You can stack 2x and double.

All they need to do is have progress carry over. I don't think all of the songs should be equal in difficulty. But most players are going to beat sweet emotion about 1 out of 100+ tries which means it's really unbalanced. Requiring that many shots on a timed mode is not reasonable.

Anyone with a serial number off a recent Aerosmith pro? I'm getting one just want to see the difference in the serial numbers when it gets here.

Concerning Sweet Emotion, I thought I read somewhere if you hit something maybe the scoop you get more time to complete the mode.

Anyway I was one who said no interest due to theme and probably will eat my words, due to gameplay. Also, no doubt the game/art is amazing.

Crank it Up gives you more time on all the songs if you hit the scoop when lit. Mystery awards also give more time at the scoop if they come up.

Yes, you can add more time but it still is a crazy number of shots to complete with both orbits and the right ramp being hard to hit consistently for most players. Good players are going to consistently find it is a road block to the final wizard mode. The only time I have completed it was when it was combing with my best toy box multiball and even then I was lucky to hit the last shot with 2 seconds remaining.

I'm not an Aerosmith fan and thought the theme sucked when announced. I like good pinball though and this is good pinball.

That is the trick on sweet emotion you want to stack it with a multiball to help you complete it, I have no issue with the way it is now and regularly complete it that way. I have my game set up on no ball saves, no extra ball, and setup as tough as it can get and can still hit medley multiball on a really good game. Hitting final tour thou is almost impossible on these kind of settings, but it is the super wizard mode it should be really tough to get to. Why don't you just add extra balls for replay or play 5 ball if you goal is to hit the super wizard mode all the time. There may also be extra settings within the game setting to make things a little easier as well, like adding timer time, etc...

It's not really my goal to always get there, I'd definitely like to see it at some point but I have plenty of games like AC/DC were that is not a possibility for me. I'm mainly going for score, not really mode completion. I just see it as pretty unbalanced compared to the other modes. I'm fine with it being harder, it just doesn't make sense to have the hardest non multi ball mode that requires that many shots not have progress carry over when others do.

For ACDC in the settings you can try to lower it to 6 song completions it actually makes the game a little more fun, used to own one... Your right encore is super tough...

I had this happen early on when I got my LE. The ball seemed to be getting hung up in the plastic guide under the mini playfield. It would happen in multiballs usually. I haven't seen it since so I'm guessing it's a minor clearance issue.

Let us know what they actually find out.

Any news of Stern adding "Dream on" in there somewhere?

Dream on should be the Sweet Emotion mode, as in never gonna get it

Really getting into scoring strategies now. Working on X multipliers. What a blast to play

What do you guys think? Red with white or purplish blue ? This mod / lighting upgrade works with sterns side armor.
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Dunno if anyone has mentioned this, but there's actually a grace period on the song timer when it runs out. If you hit the scoop when the cowbell clangs, you're usually SOL, no CiU.

However, IF you have mystery lit, you CAN get extra time even after the timer is out, and then it immediately awards you CiU, too! So the mystery award bridges a grace period into the song timer that is not there for regular CiU.

combine both to make red/white/almost blue. I'd go with the red/white - the red feather tips are sharp.