Sounds like you're the minority, but no biggie...

Is it within the realm of possibility that KISS was underwhelming in sales so they just tweaked a few things about the KISS layout and gave it a few different features, hoping some kick ass art would hide the fact? I'd love to see a side-by-side or overlap of AERO vs. KISS Pro models.

- Seems as if the Peter pop bumper was replaced by a scoop, but perhaps the same drill location. Having this as a scoop probably means the 2nd 'S' in the left KISS targets had to go.
- Keep the outer orbit shot through the pops.
- Replace the backstage pass scoop which people on the whole think was a poor shot location with two tiny standups.
- Replace that stupid Paul/STAR section with a real toy.
- Keep the center ramp.
- Add in a "sneak in" skill shot a-la FH or Mustang since KISS lacks any skill shot.
- Replace the Gene head with a few new mech's (don't know what they are since they only post videos on freggin FB and I don't have FB, nor would my employer allow access if I did).
- Keep the spinner on the right orbit.
- Keep the right standups.
- Add new art, and BOOM, new game with minimal investment to PF layout and shot geometry analysis.

Love that you can choose 3,4,5 or 6 ball multiball.
Also noticed some of the photos show inside side art even on the pro model.
Wonder if this will be extra like Ghostbustes? I'm sure it will be.
The video looks awesome.
Hope that ball lock launcher stays accurate.
Code seems much farther along then Batman at the moment.

I applaud the spinner for the pro. Layout looks fun, but looks very much like KISS, with the ramp placement. Kiss is a fun game though, but might feel similar. Pro looks like the better game, unless you like batting around little playfields to slow down the flow.
$200 increase...could have been worse I guess.

That's the point of releaseing a super priced BM66 just before this one....to show you had bad it could have been.
Thanks Stern?

Put yourself in a time machine and go back to 1975.

Thanks for the link; I wonder who took that video? I was getting dizzy trying to watch it. The pro looks like it would be the way to go because that upper PF is so tight and seems like an after thought (plus I like the blue cabinet). Guess it doesn't matter because either way it's out of my price range...

Lately in this hobby, that seems to be the case.

As long as they keep cranking out these has been licensed themes, I'll be happy to be the in the minority and keep my money for more interesting things.

It looks like Kiss's basic layout. I think the jack in the box thing will be cool. I like Sparky, and Stern can do a lot of things with one magnet there. I like the NBA kickout thing to box...that's a cool effect. The art looks good.

The LCD stuff looks like a joke when the band is playing. They look static...that's nothing like an Aerosmith concert...they're high energy. I was hoping for more songs than the inserts showed. Maybe they'll add some in later. The upper playfield looks pretty terrible to me, but maybe it will be better when I play it and see how it works in the code. The targets are so close...what's the point? Can you hit the big orbit up there from the flipper? I like that the ramp can bypass that at times.

A $200 increase has been standard for a number of yr now for people spending $5000/10,000 on a toy it should be no big deal.Good themes and getting ghosting in the past will = strong sales

Yep, Stern does know how to ghost some inserts

Not bad...an improved Kiss, which is a not a bad thing. But I'm out...prices, quality issues, theme. Patiently waiting for AP's Houdini.

wholly crap, you REALLY are a Stern Employee.

Just kindly leave rather than making yourself and your company look stupid on a collectors forum. Pretty sad that you think you can just come into the party and constantly deflect and treat your potentital customers like this. Nothing like being lied to right in our faces...

No custom speech by Steven Tyler? Kiss had both gene and Paul...

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metallica vs aerosmith

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I can see the similarity with Kiss...but with Metallica, it's pushing it.

Since everyone is saying it thought I would make an easy way to compare Aerosmith to Kiss.
EDIT: looks like we all had the same idea!

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Similar shot layout, but code will make a big difference between how the two games play and feel and that LCD looks great lots of custom animation, a completely different look and feel to BM66 which is great helps keep the LCD feeling fresh and different game to game. Not a Aerosmith fan but the game looks a lot of fun and the art just like Metallic is awesome! Luckily I have a friend who loves his music pins so hopefully should get to play this some point down the line.

Definitely some similar geometry to Kiss, but the playfield on Aerosmith looks better. By replacing Gene Simmons and a pop bumper, there are now more good shots.

Is it just me or are all these games looking the same?

I wonder who BORG is punking, US or Stern with these lazy copycat layouts. Look at Fun house and Tron, Austin Powers and Iron man and now this...

Well it's Borg...obviously at some point he had to stop copying PL and find someone else; and whom better than himself.

Stern has always known what Borg is & does. He aint the cheapest for nothin'

Are the cities programmed?

Really? Stretch left ramp to go around toy instead of next to him, take the mystery scoop and move it up but now it's an elevator. Oh but also take out the newton ball, the snake lock, the inline drop targets, and the left target lane. Not pushing it, but stripping it while raising the price.

Besides that, they all look to have skittled Ed Roth cloned artwork. Hey if that's what's in right now, more power to them.

Borg is a Taco Bell designer. 3-4 ingredients layered in different ways and sold by different names. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy them, but you pretty much know what you're going to get each time you go.

Will be interesting to see a Dirty Donny lineup all in a row: Pabst Can Crusher, Kiss, Metallica, Aerosmith
(did I miss any non-limited games?)

I don't think Donny did Kiss.

I've got megator.. that's megatee! you can tell because the index finger is crooked slightly different!

What is the achilles heal of this machine?

Lonnie on code.

Fool me once with Star Trek, shame on you. Fool me twice with KISS, shame on me.

Is the answer to this diarrhea?

Aerosmith.

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I sold my GB and had monies waiting to buy a machine and don't mind Aerosmith, interested in the LCD, and might be able to stretch just a touch over GB in the price department but BAM, fucking Kiss layout has me totally out. Too close guys...too soon

My bad. The art goes well with the other 3.

One of the best stand ups of all time. Classic Dana Carvey.

My Pf is ghosting, it has dimples, where's the code.

Wonder what this will do to used KISS prices seeing how that now has an inferior layout, toys, and display to this.

Just need a PF comparison side by side with IJ4 to complete the cycle.

All games with only two flippers 6/8 shot fan there may be a scoop,bash toy captive ball all similar till rules change that

Or put on Dazed & Confused at the very least.

I'm really surprised Mama Kin isn't in the song lineup.

I understand that. The poor copying of Ed Roth's classic artwork is wearing thin as well.

Funny, cause the first thing that came to mind seeing the "animations" was Metalocalypse. Or maybe aqua teen . . . Seriously, the visuals look like something from an Adult Swim cartoon spoof.

Lockdown bar button is different than Kiss..boom!

Bingo.

I learned my lesson with GOT Premium. Should have gone pro from day 1 because of the stupid upper/mini PF. If I ever get Aerosmith, it will be the pro.