Well, knowing how hard it is to find these, I would say around 2500 to 3000. Playfield looks good.

The cupped inserts will affect gameplay. You'll want to drop in a repro PF. $1500 tops.

I'd say $800 for an old Stern in good player's condition with cabinet wear and cupped inserts. (If those inserts are dead-flat, then my rating on the game would upgrade to a "very good" player's condition and I'd be more at $1000+.)

But with 869 made, we are talking about "roughly 90 left" in existence... With that said, I'd jump that number up to $1700-$2000 just like I would for a Fathom in good condition in 2015 -- even though that pin is more sought after and has 4x the production numbers.

Looks like a PF swap, cab redo.
I hope the apron cleans up, and the BG is good (can't see back side), otherwise I'm not sure what is save-able from this purchase.
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The spinners are not the correct ones, FWIW. Some playfield issues and a broken plastic. I never care about cabinet issues, but this one isn't that bad.

I'd be right at the $1,500 price point. If you can get it for that or less I'd consider it a good deal. I know some would overpay for this game just to get it; so be prepared if it sells out from under you, if others know about it.

if you decide to pass on it let me know, otherwise good luck!

and if you do pick it up, can you scan both sides of the left (2) spinner faces? those were from a williams blackout and/or joust and I'm still looking for a good, hi-rez scan of both sides of that spinner.

With the new pfs out for $600, I would think the game is worth more than $1500 - closer to 2K.

if you factor in what it would cost you to do a restoration, the $800-1200 is more than a fair price. (I, myself, wouldn't want to pay more than 600-700 for it)

otherwise, you're telling me that you'd happily pay $2000 for a player quality machine which, if you plan on restoring it (yourself) to CQ, would cost you potentially another $950/$1550 or more (with your major outlaying being: playfield - $600, backglass - $350, new cabinet - $600, stencils - $150).

factor in another $2000 to pay to have someone like HEP do the restoration for you, in which case now you're approaching $5K (or more)

If the owner knows what it's worth you'll never get it for less than $1500. I paid $2K for mine a year ago, in similar condition, and I don't regret it. I held out for a lower price for several years, which was stupid. Star Gazer is a keeper for me, I didn't buy it to flip it, but if I ever get the opportunity to get another one cheap am I going to pass it up? No.

Mine has a nice backglass and a solid cabinet. The playfield has more wear than this one and the inserts are cupped. Bought a Greatwich playfield and I'm so glad I did...it's beautiful. At least now I have the game and can enjoy it while it awaits restoration.

If the bg and cabinet are in decent shape but the pf is trashed, yes I would 2K - if fact I've done that a few times. But if the it's totally trashed, then that's a different story. I don't do nor prefer full restorations. I see that a as a waste of resources. My concerns are pf and bg, and if the cabinet is fine, I'll just play the hell out of it.

the latter explanation is the main problem with this site. its way too common here.

The game is rare and sought after. I have one in better condition I spent 2500 for. I might have overpayed. But, I wasnt finding any cheaper. My 2 cents.

What it's worth, and what it sells for are USUALLY two entirely different things for this title. How much is he asking for? Btw, if you pass on it, let me know.

Star Gazer has low production numbers and has relatively high demand right now. Finding it in any condition isn't easy and informed sellers aren't going to give it away. I doubt the seller would have too much trouble getting $2000 out of this one. Even poor examples of this title won't go cheap these days.

I love the game, but there's no way I would come anywhere near his 3,500usd asking price. if he's here on pinside, he's probably read this as well and knows what everyone here thinks what it's worth

$1500-2k. $3500 is way out of line for that condition.

I updated my response above, since I didn't remember that the production on it was 869.
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if the production # truly is 869 - then 3500 isn't that far off. I always thought they went up to 1,500 units produced.

So in all likelihood - there are maybe 300 still left in the world.

Tragically overrated/priced machine. It isn't bad by any means, but when 2k+ prices get thrown around for this I don't quite know why.

Same could be said for Fathom. Beautiful artwork, but way over-hyped game. The demand simply drives the price up.

I do agree that the "buzz" has a lot to do with the price escalation.
With Fathom, I feel it's warranted -- I consider Fathom a top-5 all-time game -- whereas Star Gazer, is just not in my top-35.
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Nice

Congrats. It's my top classic Stern and a top early SS pin sacked up against all early SS.

I got a greatwich playfield and I will say that I am a bit disappointed in the color matching. My original playfield is blue like the pics in this thread where the repro blue is lighter with an almost green tint to it. I'll take a pic and post later. Anyone else see the same thing with the repros?