I will proxy here for my Dad that has a Stargate, but I have it on location with my Star Trek. He doesn't have a Pinside account. It really is a great game with an interesting rules set. It took me a while to figure out how the rules and multiballs worked. I think a lot of people are turned off by the amount of modes that are multiball, but the rules behind the modes really aren't like other games with multiball modes. No ballsaver on the multiball is brutal as well. It is just a gorgeous machine with a ton of toys packed in.

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I think Waterworld is a fun pin as well. I would love to find one of those cheap.

Regarding optos on Sys 3 games. If you have one not working, first thing is to check the opto board under the playfield and make sure the big resistors on that board are intact. There should be 4 of them. If that is not it, replacing the opto LED's seems to usually fix any other issues.

Agreed, replacing the actual opto's is pretty easy without having to change out the board.

Agreed, Sys 3 has some great titles. I am almost to the point that I like Big Hurt almost as much as Stargate. If only Big Hurt had a ramp for that upper flipper it could have been epic.

I really need to study the rules on SG though now that I am getting a chance to play more often.

The great thing about Stargate is that is has so much cool stuff on the playfield already, it doesn't need other toys or mods. That topper is pretty freaking sweet though.

I have been loving Stargate lately. Once your really understand the rules, it is just an awesome pin. I was really lukewarm on it for a long time. I think the best mod that you can do for the game is to give the playfield a thick coat of clear and shine it up! LEDs look good too.

care to elaborate?

For those of us that don't know what is required to go "one step up", would you mind how one would go about that. I am assuming it is just getting the right coil and replacing it, but how to know which one?

That made me laugh.

Wow, that looks really good. That mylar looks good too. So many of them are cloudy and look bad. I like the blue rings on the pops better than the white that are on my dad's machine. I wonder if pbresource has those.

My dad ordered a rope light from pbresource.com and it looks great.

Yup, a list for LED's you used would be great! That is the best looking lighting I have seen on a Stargate by far.

Also, what is the super jackpot shot on Stargate? I have been playing my dad's a lot lately but I can't seem to figure out what the actual super jackpot shot is and how you get to it. I have advanced it to 400,000,000 before but have never scored it.

I also got my first 5 way combo the other day on my dad's SG! That was as good as breaking a billion for me

Optos cause all sorts of problems with these Sys 3's it seems. If something is wonky that is the first thing I check.

I know it is heresy for some, but I put Williams style flipper bats on Gottliebs....

I don't know about it playing better, but it looks better. My dad has Big Hurt and Stargate and both have the Williams bats. They are both great games.

Technically they are generic bats, so it isn't that bad

I must be the worst Stargate player in the world.

Can you show how you mounted this in detail? It is a cool idea.

There were different colors.

On my Dad's Big Hurt and Stargate we just replaced the bats with BW bats and put rubber stopper grommets from a DE game so the flippers aren't catch all flippers anymore. Works great and they feel fine. Makes the games more challenging as you can't trap everything.

You make that sound simple

That topper is too freaking cool. If I owned a SG instead of my dad I would buy this in a heartbeat. Unfortunately he isn't into toppers.

Now that is freaking cool!! Do tell on how you did the eyes!

OMG, how big is that? Imgine replacing the ropelight inside the backox with something similar.

I have found on Gottlieb Sys3 games if you have a flaky opto somewhere it can start throwing up billions within a matter of seconds. We had a heck of a time finding it on my Dad's Big Hurt but finally found the one opto that was causing the problem. After it was replaced we haven't had a problem since.

Dang, those are some shiny ball guides

Thanks Clay, I will help him try and find what you are talking about. I think I have an idea.

ya the slide system on this game blows

An update on the problem flyfisher was having above. It was indeed the sensor board that Clay referred to. We swapped it with the other on on the bottom the playfield and everything works great now

My dad is going to do a write up of how he did his. He used small LED's and had to add some resistors. It looks fantastic and blinks and everything like it should.

yes because my dad bought 2 of those and both had bulbs go out within a couple months of putting them in. Also, if you are using cool white LED's in the backbox, using cool white LED's help it match the color temp better. That matters to some, some it doesn't.

He is currently making a blue rope light too, we will see how that looks.

For one in good condition, I think that is a good price.

Things I would look for are wear by the flippers where the mylar doesn't cover. Drop Targets. See if the glider works and the flip up targets work correctly. Also make sure your rope light works.

Sure, just pointing out that those are things to look for when negotiating.

Good call on the speaker panel.

ya that and it stops before it gets to the flippers! I have always scratched my head at that one.

Gottlieb's are generally a bit easier to keep the ball alive. Without messing with the outlanes I am not sure what you could do other than waxing the crap out of it

My dad's game got a lot harder once he cleared the playfield.

As for the ball coming down the right ramp from the VUK, we have never had that problem on my father's game. If I remember I will try and take a picture of that area next time I am out there.

Novus 2 works well enough for cleaning the playfield. Then just use Carnuba wax just like you would wax a car.