hell to all,
i need help repairing my data east star wars machine.
it all started when the death star yellow target worked on and off and then stopped working for good. i bough a new part, and replaced the old one but still, the sensor which is triggered by touch does not respond at all.
any one have any idea on where to search for a solution next ?
thanks
Gilad
Did you solder the switch in correctly?
Is there a diode correctly installed?
Are you testing the switch in test mode?
Have you consulted the manual on ipdb.org to look at the switch matrix wiring?
thank you very much for the quick reply
1. i think i have solded it correctly, will post pictures.
2. the bar is brand new and comes with a diode
3. not sure on how to test the switch and what to do with results
4. looked at the manual but do not know how to read the related switch matrix wiring.
am a novice into fixing pinballs...
pls take a look at the images attached.
20180910_164505 (2) (resized).jpg20180910_164559 (2) (resized).jpgQuoted from Giladla:4. looked at the manual but do not know how to read the related switch matrix wiring.
You are looking for the basic "switch matrix" chart, not any schematics.
You can enter switch test pressing the pushbutton on the inside of the cabinet. I think it's the third test...
Once in that test, every switch passed should display as being pressed on the game display.
That's what you need to test your switch (and all the other switches in the game). The switch matrix chart is more for reference, in case you need to look to see what the next switch is in the wired daisy chain.
-Post results here...
ok,
maybe getting there, think i need much more help though...
so please be patient with me
i see from the switch matrix chart, the bar target is switch 40 which matches the wires i solded wht-grey and green-black cn-8 and cn-10 on the main board.
do i need to check the wires all the way to the mainboard? there are certain junctures btween the target and the main board, and main board looks ok. do i need to check the mainboard?
how to best check the wires, with a tachometer? and from where to where?
did the switch test, it does not show the switch as problematic, it did show the bar motor up but only because i raised it before in order to be able to touch the bar when raised, and activate the switch.
here are some more pics
and
thanks again
Gilad
back board (resized).jpgbar target area (resized).jpginside_backbox (resized).jpgswitch matrix (resized).jpgswitch test pic (resized).jpgwdennie,
thanks for the reply,
i have already tried switching btwn wires on the bar target and it didnt change anything, thought i solded by mistake the first time when it didnt work after replacing the part.
take a look at the pictures of the part and if you think it was solded wrongly please instruct me on how to sold it correctly.
dt1 (resized).jpgdt2 (resized).jpgdt3 (resized).jpgQuoted from Giladla:do i need to check the wires all the way to the mainboard?
No. If one was at fault, you would have 8 switches not registering, not just one switch.
Quoted from Giladla:did the switch test, it does not show the switch as problematic
Wait, did the switch work when you tested it in the sw. test? You have to actually trip the switch (WHILE IN TEST). They system does not tell you of a sw. problem automatically.
Regarding the pictures of the sw. you posted, can you post a close up of another working, similar switch? (All alike switches will be wired similar in regard to the diode and 3 blades.) solid green/color vs. white/color.
If the sw. worked in test, then you are good to go.
I am very patient. 
guys,
please find pics of some other switches,
they all show that the white wire is where the diod is connected while the green one stands alone.
grumpy,
you say bring the white wire to the top lug, what about the green one? just switch btwn the green and white? are you sure? i tried it before but no change, maybe i did not sold correctly.
snyper2099,
the switch did not trigger during the test cause i couldnt do a manual test when the death star target was up, maybe i do not know how to do it
thank you all for trying to help me,
in an impatient world where time is money, it is not that easy to find pepole willing to help
sw1 (resized).jpgsw2 (resized).jpgsw3 (resized).jpgQuoted from GRUMPY:You need to move the white wire to the top lug not the middle. Every thing else is OK.
This is correct. BANDED side of diode should have -no wire-. Move wire to the top lug.
Quoted from Giladla:snyper2099,
the switch did not trigger during the test cause i couldnt do a manual test when the death star target was up, maybe i do not know how to do it
Sure you can...
-Get the game how you need it so you can trigger the switch.
-Put game in switch test.
-Trigger the switch.
Quoted from Giladla:ok,
so just to clarify,
white wire to the top and green in the middle?
No, NOTHING on middle lug.
Have solded white wire on top, green wire on bottom ,empty in the middle.
Nothing changed, still not working.
Any idea on what to do next, could the diod need to be replaced? It is A new part
Quoted from Giladla:Have solded white wire on top, green wire on bottom ,empty in the middle.
Nothing changed, still not working.
Any idea on what to do next, could the diod need to be replaced? It is A new part
Can you enter sw. test to confirm that this is the only problematic sw.?
If yes-->
Now that you have the sw. wired correctly,
Next step would be to look at that "z" plug at the end of that assembly and test for continuity with a meter.
Shorting the two switch wires together in switch test should get you a response. If not... you will need to look for the next "hops" for those two wires under the play field. One of the wires may have shaken loose from it's previous switch hop. May have to cut some zip ties.
-May have to refer to the switch matrix in the manual to determine these next "hops" of these GRN/BLK and WH/BLU wires.
Further upstream, if you momentarily short those two pins in the head at the connector (with a paperclip or something), you should get a response for the switch in question, in the switch test. If not, YOU got a board problem.
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