The Mandalorian (Pro)
Stern, 2021If your handy with welding or have a someone that would weld them for you I would sell a kit with everything shaped and ready to be assembled on your end. If thats an option let me know. I will make a kit and mark all the spots to be welded along with measured type blue prints.
Quoted from Loganpinball:Surface is smooth and ball drops are also smooth. Should not be a problem.
My mig welder is acting up so I am stopping for now. Changed tips, tungsten and argon. It is flashing like a bad ground. Hopefully something dumb. Its a lincoln not a harbor freight unit.
Here are a bunch of pictures of my hobbyist welding abilities on these wireforms. The bulk of them you will not see anyway, but I just want everyone to know I will do my very best, but I cant match sterns machine welds. They look fine to me, but I know how some guys are very picky. I dont want anyone to be let down or disappointed. I also put a set next to teenage mutant turtles wireforms so you can see the difference in shine. The stainless looks great for me and I made a big discovery ship wireform a while ago and they still look great. I really appreciate the comments and interest. I will do my very best!
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Quoted from flynnibus:dont knock yourself on the welds.. they look fine
Exactly looks close enough
I just ordered my Pro, it won't ship until October but that's not going to stop me from Gathering up a few mods until then. This will definitely be on the top of my list. PM sent. Nicely done sir. 
Quoted from Loganpinball:If your handy with welding or have a someone that would weld them for you I would sell a kit with everything shaped and ready to be assembled on your end. If thats an option let me know. I will make a kit and mark all the spots to be welded along with measured type blue prints.
I would consider that. I would just have to talk to my welder buddy. Thanks for your hard work! These will look great on the pro.
Quoted from kermit24:Are you going to finish the metal surface?
They are stainless steel and are very easy to keep clean. I built this massive wireform ship for my discovery machine 9 months ago and I have beat the hell out of them and they are very durable as is. Theres stainless polish cleaners at home depot for cleaning. For reference I have not cleaned or done anything with these wireforms on Discovery in 9 months. I am not sure if you can do anything with stainless besides electro, but not positve.
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Made more sets today. It takes 2 1/2 hours to get it shaped and welded and another 1/2 hour to clean and adjust everything. 3 hours solid labor total. $12 in argon gas with 34 welds on the pair and it takes (3) 6 feet sections of stainless rods to complete.
Its a good amount of work and I am ok doing it, I just cant do for $90 as I guessed. Sitting down with the costs and the amount of time in garage for each set I have to increase it to $140. It is ok if anyone who contacted me prior wants to drop out. Just let me know and I will adjust the list. I hope this information explains the whole process and why I need to be at $140. Going forward I would be making 2 to 4 sets a weekend depending on demand.
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Its a good amount of work and I am ok doing it, I just cant do for $90 as I guessed. Sitting down with the costs and the amount of time in garage for each set I have to increase it to $140. It is ok if anyone who contacted me prior wants to drop out. Just let me know and I will adjust the list. I hope this information explains the whole process and why I need to be at $140. Going forward I would be making 2 to 4 sets a weekend depending on demand.
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Looking forward to seeing them in person.
Count me still in also. Mine doesn't ship till October so I'm good to wait till after pinfest if that works better for you. Nice work.
Excellent mod. The first thing I said when playing the pro was that someone needed to make wireforms, a lot of people will be glad you are. I think the welds look fine too by the way.
You don’t have to explain yourself at $140, I still think you are not charging enough. Excellent work, very impressive!
Not to beat up the price but if you said 175 I also still believe it’s a good deal. Nobody makes them and this is a serious upgrade to the plastic ramps for pro users . So 140 is a awsome deal! Looking good .
Random (maybe stupid) question.
Would it look too out of place to do just one of the ramps as wire form and the other keep the plastic ramp?
Maybe do the ramp that crosses the playfield as a wire form and the other that feeds the right inlane as plastic?
Quoted from thedarkknight77:You don’t have to explain yourself at $140, I still think you are not charging enough. Excellent work, very impressive!
Agreed .... I said 160 to 180 easy
Quoted from Ranhorton:Random (maybe stupid) question.
Would it look too out of place to do just one of the ramps as wire form and the other keep the plastic ramp?
Maybe do the ramp that crosses the playfield as a wire form and the other that feeds the right inlane as plastic?
The plastic ramps are just bad. They look cheap and obstruct the views. My forms or Sterns are a must. It just makes the pro better visually.
Beating up the wireforms on the game I notice the long ramp had some wiggle as it was only secured to the lane guide. I added a support arm that attaches at flasher to solid stud. Its rock solid... I am trying my best to identify and resolve or improve the ramps. This was a good catch today. Progress!
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Quoted from Loganpinball:Beating up the wireforms on the game I notice the long ramp had some wiggle as it was only secured to the lane guide. I added a support arm that attaches at flasher to solid stud. Its rock solid... I am trying my best to identify and resolve or improve the ramps. This was a good catch today. Progress!
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That seems like a pretty good idea from the look of it.
Looks awesome! $140 is a great price. Still deciding if I want mando but if I do I would take a set. Great welding my friend.
Quoted from Waxx:That seems like a pretty good idea from the look of it.
The wireforms sat under that channel loose. Not sure if the premiums or le’s are the same. But, playing the game I could see them wiggling. Now they dont move and I think this also is a great support for the entire ramp. The weight is now supported by a mount and not on the plastic cut out. Were also getting a premium. I am curious to see the wireforms on it. I am abusing this game and its a blast! Great shots, call outs, artwork, sounds and clips. Stern did a great job.
Quoted from Loganpinball:The wireforms sat under that channel loose. Not sure if the premiums or le’s are the same. But, playing the game I could see them wiggling. Now they dont move and I think this also I a great support for the entire ramp. The weight is now supported by a mount and not on the plastic cut out. Were also getting a premium. I am curious to see the wireforms on it. I am abusing this game and its a blast! Great shots, call outs, artwork, sounds and clips. Stern did a great job.
This is on LE
Screenshot_20210710-173041.jpgQuoted from Ranhorton:Random (maybe stupid) question.
Would it look too out of place to do just one of the ramps as wire form and the other keep the plastic ramp?
Maybe do the ramp that crosses the playfield as a wire form and the other that feeds the right inlane as plastic?
You would not want to do that, no. Check out Mark Ritchie designed playfield games from the WMS days: Taxi, Diner, Fish Tales, etc. When ramp returns *do* get in the way of the sight lines of the bottom of the playfield, you want that to be in the form of wireforms. The exception, of course, would be when it's on the side of the playfield, out of the way. The whole point is to be able to see all balls in play clearly.
Quoted from boagman:You would not want to do that, no. Check out Mark Ritchie designed playfield games from the WMS days: Taxi, Diner, Fish Tales, etc. When ramp returns *do* get in the way of the sight lines of the bottom of the playfield, you want that to be in the form of wireforms. The exception, of course, would be when it's on the side of the playfield, out of the way. The whole point is to be able to see all balls in play clearly.
You should team up with a chrome plater and offer LE chrome plated versions for extra $$$ people will pay it!!
Quoted from Gorgar1:Think you might have sold a few more Pros for Stern Might wanna ask Gary for a percentage lol don’t like your chances lol lol. Great work.
I sent Gary a personal letter, not an email a few years ago about an issue I had with a NIB Kiss. Never got a reply. I dont want to go 0 for 2 in correspondence!
Quoted from russdx:You should team up with a chrome plater and offer LE chrome plated versions for extra $$$ people will pay it!!
The stainless can be polished to a brighter shine. You would need a good plater to attempt it. Stainless steel is great for working out wireforms as they bend easier and they dont need to be plated or painted as they will never rust. And like I said earlier they are easy to clean. I like the look of the stainless as well in Mando.
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Quoted from Coz:I’m interested in getting a set. Can you ship to me in Virginia?
Hello Brian, I will ship anywhere at the buyers expense. I just need to find the right sized tubes for shipping. The weight is nothing so shipping should be fair. I am banging out a bunch this week. Once I get to that point I will let you know. I put you on my list. This is madness! Thanks for all the interest!
The hardest part is the rails. But, I have 6 long and 4 short ready. Picking the bulk order of rods up tomorrow as I ran out today. Welder is running fine now and thats a huge difference. I had to call a retired welding friend of mine to help fix it over the phone. I offered to pay him to help me build these faster and he just laughed at me. Putting these pictures up so you can see I am serious about this mod and getting them done.
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Nice mod indeed!