giggittttttyyyyyyyy!

In the future, I think the streams are better without the pros.

I stopped watching as they were just too good so it was going to ruin the game for myself to explore when ours arrives in a few weeks. I like the streams with just the regular folks and we get to see small snippits for the reveal videos and can concentrate on how the game shoots. Seemed they were in multiball so much that it was all just about the control play aspect (i.e. not playing the game how regular people do).

I missed that part. lol, was that Josh or Kieth?

reveal streams are more fun without people needing to drain so they dont show the uncoded wizard mode. Sorry, just MHO.

I love these deadflip streams but there was so much continual gameplay that it did not seem to allow much time for Dwight to talk about stuff or interact with the crowd. That is the fun insight most are looking for at this stage when evaluating to buy, not how to beat the game on day 1.

I am guessing you were the guy that whipped out your game genie before even playing your new games to bugger in the cheat codes

Hey, it is only July and you have plenty of opportunity to top that.

How the hell did I get looped in on this. I made exactly 1 "off topic" post, no banter here.

Deadflip event was great as always! So glad Stern has started doing these and I hope they keep it going forever.

I am super excited to explore this code! Dwight has some great ideas! I will say, I do hope that he gets the time to properly polish and it does not get left at the finish line like GB has.

Lol.

Pretty much all there is to say...

said extremely well. I think it is obvious that the tide has shifted on public opinion of Stern and you nicely listed all the reasons for it. Pretty hard to change culture/perception from both within and your customer base once this happens.

I find that if anything there have been mostly vocal Stern fanboys for my entire time on this site, with a select few vocal minority pointing out what has now come to fruition on quality, lack of code, and price.

That has turned and more people seem to be waking up and changing what they are saying. You are correct that what really matters is the spending and people bought GB despite the pf issues. People appear to be buying SW despite the pf issues and price increase, and lack of value. However Stern cant get A list themes and sell on that alone forever, esp since others are taking over in quality, customer sevice, and value respectively.

I will say that I am starting to see the resale market on new out of box/huo/ low play colletor stuff dropping. Many games were riding on the increased Stern prices and influx of new people in the hobby that did not know better. People were buying that Met for 4200 delivered a few years ago and then able to resell for 4800 when the newest Stern came out with a price increase. As Stern raised NIB prices, collectors were raising NooB prices to match and then trade into the newest thing. That is slowing and we seem to have seen the top. I see that as this shifts and we get back to a place where opening a game and playing it for 6 months will cost you 1k on the secondary, then that spells back things for Stern unless they adjust quickly.

They like to lie and say they have 90% of market share, but they obviously dont and that portion is shrinking quickly. Competitors are getting games out quicker and people are buying.

Pinheads dont hold grudges? I would say they are fairly intelligent group and remember. People burned on crappy quality, burned on dead code, burned on increased prices dont tend to easily forget.

how did you neglect the extra value of playing in your undies!!!! ???

that alone is worht he 1k depreciation