I sold my GB pro already and have SWLE on order. Looking at other games available now and I still think SW is a very good choice. While I think DI is neat, it's just not a theme that resonates with me at all. MMR and AFMR are good games and I'll play them on location, but I just don't have desire to own those either. AS looks like a great game too, but I held off that and decided to wait for SW.

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Did you try Fun! ? Maybe they are sold out now too..

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In all fairness, STLE is more the exception than the rule with LE 'bling'. The majority of LE differences are backglass, cab art and armour (+ powdercoating). SWLE is no different except instead of a backglass, you get 3 translites. Even at a retail price, the extras are probably not worth the difference in price between SWLE and SWPRE. I think Stern is fully aware of customer displeasure with the LE feature matrix as evident by Steve's speech at a show a few weeks ago. There's talk of a backglass hyperspace effect, but nobody knows if it will be free or additional cost. Or maybe it won't happen after all. If it does happen and it's a freebie, that would be damn cool of Stern to do that. If it doesn't happen, I won't be disappointed... much... lol

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Fancier powder coated armor. A gloss finish with different color and sometimes a design on the side rails. Instead of the standard hammer tone(?) simple black.

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I am sure you are completely wrong.

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Completely understood..

LE is usually about bling. Most of the time I don't care about bling, but rather features that interact with the ball. This one time, because it's Star Wars I have interest in the LE.

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But, you are already overpaying for a lot of things you buy anyhow....

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So, you're saying you aren't buying a SWLE?

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One to replace the less than stellar LE translite and another for a spare.

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I'm dropping out on my LE. For me it's a matter of $$$, not really that I don't like the game.

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Well, like I said for me it's the $$. I've been stressing way too much about paying for the damn thing and I don't want that in my head any more. It's making pinball no longer fun for me. I sold one game (GB Pro) to fund SW and have decided that I don't want to sell another. I will still buy a pro model though because I like the theme and I think it's going to be a great game when Dwight (and team) is done with it.

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People need to realize a few things. First, the cabinets and playfields are not manufactured by Stern. There's already been photos posted in other threads about cabinets splitting on CGC games (AFMR). Blaming Stern for this issue is ridiculous because they are not at fault. Second, everyone is jumping to conclusions that if a playfield (or cabinet) is defective, it won't be replaced. Of course a small blemish or chip in a shooter lane is not a defective playfield. JJP and CGC playfields chip too so this isn't something endemic to Stern, yet people criticize them like it is.

What is your definition of value in a game? How fun it is or how many toys are on the playfield? What if it had a lot of toys, but wasn't fun to play? SWPro is the first stern game to have interactive red/blue/white GI which was previously an LE/Premium feature. Isn't that value? But, you don't really see it as a physical toy on the playfield so it gets overlooked. The Premium/LE have metal ramps, the hyperloop, the exploding death star. If you don't want that, then get a pro. If you want the full meal deal, then get an LE or premium. It's that simple really. Or buy something else that you like.

Personally I don't care who is in or out of an LE because it doesn't affect my decision to purchase. If I have defect issues I will take it up with my distributor. If I don't like the game after 6 months then maybe I'll sell it and buy something else. Honestly sometimes it's like there too much mass hysteria going on here lately.

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meh.... just gonna patiently wait and then enjoy my game..

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I had a warped MeT premium playfield which I didn't realize was warped until 10 months after purchase. It took a while, but Stern made good and replaced it. I have a tiny sliver of ghosting on a single insert on my GoT pro. I think that's perfectly fine and normal - which is what the manual is trying to say. But, we also have people who have absolutely no pony in this race complaining about ghosting on something that doesn't even affect them. Or people making assumptions that make something written in the manual to be far worse than it probably is. So far it seems like customers with moderate to major issues have been taken care of. Maybe not always in a timely manner, but they have a resolution.

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We have already started the search Boob....

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Cat is cool!

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Anyone in Canada get word on theirs yet?

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The one thing on the LE I would change is the white t-molding. I think black would look much better and match the stock black armor. I wonder how difficult it would be to change?

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I don't have mine yet, but I did see this happen during the dead flip stream.

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Look at the nice action button plate on ST and nothing on SW. I am surprised nobody has designed one - yet!

White is ok, but annoys me too because it doesn't match the black armor.

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It's not easy to make out in the picture, but I think I see the corner brace on the game.

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Mine will be here Thursday I am told, but not taking delivery until Friday afternoon.

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Were more Bothans lost or pinball machines damaged?

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So, what did you ultimately decide?

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It seems to me that the mini LCD does more to obstruct view than the hyperloop. And it can't be any worse than the cannon on ACDC.

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For those of you with an LE, have you put one of the others on already or are you sticking with the original?

I think I will put the premium translite on mine. The pro one is nice too, but I like the Vader fist pump...

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Oh great, you just ruined the match sequence for me!... I'm going to have to turn it off now.....

Also, my game is going to be here in an hour.

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On my third game, I got 4 balls in the hyperloop which was very cool!

Lots of nice little touches like the leg bolt washers and extra cabinet bracing. Pictures don't do it justice, this game is a real looker in person!

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I was lucky to get 4 in there. They go so fast you lose track easily!

I think maybe some mirror blades would look great in this game with all the chrome and lighting.

Hmm, I wonder if stern is going to do some art blades for the game?

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How much were they? I'm thinking shipping is not going to be cheap.

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If I could get a tracing, maybe I can just get them made locally too.

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I wanted some 'bad buys' on the translite to offset the 'good guys' on the cabinet. So I have the premium translite on my LE. Not having Darth Vader and stormtroopers in there somewhere just isn't right... At least Vader is on the playfield...

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The hyperloop is a lot of fun! Contrary to what some others may have stated, you can backhand it reliably, but it's probably a bit tougher shot than the pro.

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And for anyone asking, you don't even really notice it while playing. Well you do see it there, but it's not obstructing in any way.

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6.8 / 6.9 and never a SDTM from the scoop. I let the ball bounce off the left flipper at rest.

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Ok, I'm in It's not a miracle as I do it many times backhand from the left flipper.

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This is a mechanical issue which I also had happen on my LE. No compensation now, but probably in a future update.

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The notes about this are actually on a piece of paper you probably threw out without reading I know that instruction paper was taped on the outside of my game.

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After about 100 plays, I can say without a doubt this playfield is WAY better than the playfield was on my GB pro. My GB pro playfield had crazing on all the big inserts and dimpled like a mofo. In contrast, my SWLE playfield has no crazing anywhere and dimples that do form from hard ball impacts barely make a dimple. Plus, for some reason the bottom of my playfield is clearcoated too....

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I absolutely love the movie clips that play during attract mode.

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How about no playfield protector?

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It is a hard game, but there's things you can do you make it a bit easier

- close outlanes further
- increase ball save times

I have increased ball save times. 10 seconds for main and 15 seconds for multiballs. I did not change the outlanes, but they certainly are hungry!

I think the game rules themselves are fine, I don't want them to be any easier. This was done on GB and I really disliked that, especially since I couldn't change specific settings (ghost collection) I thought were too easy now.

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I went with the premium translite.

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LE translite? Did something happen to yours? You can probably buy Pro and Premium, but not LE unless you show your original got destroyed somehow.

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I think it's possible that the Death Star multiball scoring is too high compared to everything else. I just scored 1.2 billion on just death star multiball and I didn't even blow it up. Compare that to measly points you get for a Tie Fighter multiball super jackpot (4+ million?). And that super jackpot was way harder for me to get than the 1.2 billion on DS4.

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I've had this happen too. I'm not sure if the gate is opening late or what happens.

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The loop is certainly fun. I hope there's more light show for it in the future.

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Jedi Multiball is supposed to be in the game now. As long as you have the other requirements done.

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Not in the game yet, but the requirement is spotted for you.

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I have left everything stock except I bumped the multiball savers to 15 seconds and the ball save to 10 seconds. I'll say it right now, SW has some cheap drains which can be frustrating:

- Ball launch into 3 bank to the left outlane
- Mini loop that sends the ball screaming SDTM
- Mini loop that sends the ball back so fast, it bounces over the flipper, into the glass and then the outhole (had this happen several times last night)
- Tie fighter target that sends the ball back so fast it bounces over the flipper too.
- Left outlane material is metal and has zero bounce (clunk!)
- Right kickout SDTM (for some, but I've never had this problem as long as I keep left flipper down.)

SW orbit shots seem a lot tighter than other games by SR. Generally with ST and GoT they are easy, but not so on SW. The left orbit can be backhanded, but there just seems to be no room for error on making even that shot. SW is certainly not an easy game that is for sure.

But, I'm not complaining and I still like the game. Cheap drains happen and sometimes it's just a matter of adjustments to make those less frequent. I do get tired of yoda though because he still gives you shit even when you have a good ball.

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I have certainly had this happen too, several times in fact. Tie Fighter hurry up is counting down, I nail the target hard and it doesn't count.

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I have my game at about 6.8/6.9, but I'm thinking of changing it to 6.7. I'm also going to change the flipper rubber to red and see if that helps with the bounce overs.

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I think the worst one on my game is the ball launch to 3 bank to the left outlane. I've launched balls into that and then had the ball save do the same exact thing!

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I think you just need to give it more time. Try different strategies and identify your bad habits in the game. SW is not a game you will master right away, but eventually you will get better. Loosen up the tilt if needed, nudge it more... And maybe close the outlanes more, or at least the left one.

I don't plan to give up no matter how many times Alderran gets blown up!

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I got 1.9 billion today and completed 3 of the 4 mission tiers. Although, I never beat any of the mission 4 levels. It's not the difficulty of the missions, but rather keeping balls in play long enough So, I increased ball save times on the 'mini wizard' modes to 20 seconds. At least it's a bit of extra breathing room to get the add-a-ball lit and the balls under control.

The game can be overwhelming when you first play it, but the more you play it the better you understand what's going on and how to plan your strategies.

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The gate not opening is a hardware issue where the roll pin is binding. I fixed mine by slightly bending (down) the metal arm that the roll pin connects to. And I mean, SLIGHTLY, like 1 degree just to change the pivot point because that is where it was jamming.

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Cabinet and playfield quality are both improved compared to last year.

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The pop bumpers are kind of boring in SW (needs light effects). But, never underestimate the importance of a good bonus multiplier in this game. My bonus champion score is over 600,000. I just never know when I have that dang bonus hold though...

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I think this was already well discussed in your other thread and everyone said it's not a problem. I have never, ever had SDTM from an orbit shot on my LE. It is a non issue and I would not be concerned over it.

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Just relocate the clip. There may be no template used for where they mount those and yours is just in a bad spot.

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I joined the club! Well, that is I joined the "I blew up the Death Star club!". Looking out of the window of the clubhouse, I see boob still standing there at a distance.....

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The force is strong with this one...

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The left side just looks way too blue.

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