I like the Vengance ship that crashes, like the laser and lighted apron. I really love the color changing inserts. The lighted warp ramp is nice but not that noticeable. I like the mode start up kicker. I don't really care about the out lane kickback.

Premium also has PF supports

Overall I think the premium is nicer but the pro is still ok not missing a lot in the actual game mostly bling.

During the Klingon battle, when the laser is on. This mod will turn off the GI making the PF mostly dark.

At this time it may be sold out.

Here's the link:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/star-trek-le-laser-blackout-mod

Not really a lot of difference to gameplay, but a lot of bling if you want it.

On Tron just to add Eli ramp lights and Arcade mod that's $600 (iirc).

PF supports are $50

Laser beam can't really add that to a pro but if you could it'd be $100+

Warp ramp light bling it'd probably be $80+

Color changing apron is also cool, I'm not sure if this is on the premium, I have the LE

Color changing inserts are awesome but just bling, probably will never be a mod, but as a Color DMD costs $400 for bling, I'd say the full color changing inserts are worth about that if I was looking at Eli ramp light kit for Tron as an example.

Crashing Vengeance it's totally cool also.

No one will say the gameplay difference is worth $$$$ but most people like bling, if you don't care about that than get the pro.

Also Met color changing light mod is for just GI not inserts right and doesn't that cost $300 plus hours of installation.

3 pros with some mods (let's say $5100-$5300 each) cost as much as 2 of premium/LE pins with some mods, whatever you think both have their pros and cons.

$16,000 (ish).

I can argue both sides of the equation, but to me 3 pros are usually better than 2 LEs.

I'd still *rather* have the LEs and premium..

Let's not forget, even with an LE or premium you're not done spending as there are always mods.

I'll leave out my early pins PotC and Tspp.

My pro type pins
-IM
-Tron
-Met

My premium/LE pins
-XMLE
-STLE
-AcDc premium

Of the three premium/LE pins clearly ST is most similar to the pro.

Not to OP but as a general question.

What's better?

STLE + TWD LE

or

ST pro + TWD pro + Met pro

Some people will spend whatever and get three LEs but there's no shame in getting pros across the board.

Probably I should not have muddied the water with the LE discussion since we're only talking about the difference between the pro and premium.

But on my example we could buy 4x pro for the cost of 3x premium.

This is one big reason why I'm hesitating at buying TH which is close to $9000 put it near double the cost of a pro.

I have to say by and large I'm impressed with Sten pros as I have Met and IM and Tron all solid pins. Great bang for your buck, just wish Stern would put PF supports to all their pins, this is simply embarrassing to have to install those on all the pros.

I believe the word you're looking for is moot

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Laser show is better in a dark environment for sure and even better with an upgraded laser and with the blackout mod. It's silly that Stern didn't just include that in the programming. I mean when the laser goes on the GI goes out. It would have been so easy and smart and could have even been menu option is people didn't care for that.

Basically the laser is meh in a well lit game. In blackout and especially with upgraded blue laser it's very nice.

Stern is very cheap and won't spend a dime they don't have to.

My game nib came with Mylar installed on the PF in high traffic areas.