Posted this in another thread, but thought it should be here. I played the game this afternoon.

My very first reaction on ST? The red DMD is absolutely horrible. Character animations look cartoonish and chubby (and if the one girl I saw is supposed to be Alice Eve - yikes!). I don't remember if the LE has a red DMD, but if it does that will have to get swapped out. This would have been stunning with movie clips on the rumored LCD.

I don't like the pro translite/cabinet artwork, but that doesn't make any difference on location.

I liked the art on the PF more than I expected from reading here. The play itself was fast, really fast. Watch out for the left orbit. None of the shots themselves were too hard; didn't pay attention to the modes much but they seemed basic and/or unfinished. Liked Klingon Multiball, voices, sounds and lights. The ship seems to be nothing more than the AFM ship, but the mechanism and ship itself looked far more sturdy and robust than it seems in the pictures. I've played WOZ and ST now this weekend - ST wins hands down for speed, WOZ for toys and shots. Both are pretty in their own way.

If the ST software lives up to its' potential, it may have greater playability in the long run - WOZ may have too many things to do. Exact opposite of my initial feelings.

WOZ way ahead construction quality / value wise. I ordered the LE because I don't like the other trims and because I like the theme and Ritchie. I think the game will do well - better than many seem to think here - but see no reason for an operator to spend the $ on anything but the base model.

Expo is October 16 to 20. Presumably the big reveal will be in the Stern session on Friday the 18th.

Maybe you can pick them up on the 16th and the box will have a "DO NOT OPEN UNTIL THE 18TH" sticker on it ...

Imagine what that would be like if there was another sticker that said "LCD inside".

I keep wondering if the big reveal might be the LE has an LCD display and video clips from the movie. (OK, maybe it's more like wishful thinking / dreaming, like every time I buy a lottery ticket)

I'm good with putting the LCD on the premiums too ...

Perfectly fine with a DMD on Pros which aren't going to be the STs in most home collections.

All good questions that show why that sticker would be more appropriate for April 1st deliveries and why there's unlikely to be one on my box when it's delivered.

Bummer if true.

Who is Shirley Stern?

No superhero or band pins for a while please.

Doesn't look like this game has a red DMD.

Too bad they didn't shoot this with the glass off (or that the game didn't have Invisiglass)

I'm not going to judge the game on the current level of code. Yes, it is shallow now, but I really doubt that will be true by the end of the year, or maybe even the end of the month.

Ditto. I was really looking forward to the VUK. Not really sure what feature(s) Steve could add this late in the game if the LEs indeed are in or starting production now/in a few weeks. I guess fixing the VUK so it has enough power to get the ball around isn't just as simple as a stronger coil?

If features are going to be added, I'd love to see drop targets. I just *love* drop targets ...

That said - I'm still keeping my LE. I'd keep it just for the cabinet art and the backglass, because I don't like the aesthetics of the Vengence model at all.

Agreed. But with this rumor/fact came one that said Steve is adding something, so Stern may be doing exactly what you are asking for.

I presume we'll all know a week from tomorrow ...

That doesn't make sense.

Makes more sense to design the LE layout and feature placement and THEN figure out what they can cut out, rather than the other way around. They have to consider max number of solenoids / drivers required for the LE and back that number down for the Pro. No way they started with the Pro and then added on for the Prem/LE.

I guess there are a number of us that had the same thought at the same time ...