How long do you guys think Stern is going to be selling ST? Pretty sure I want to get one but need to clear year end expenses first. I don't want to wait too long then find out they are no longer available new.

I had a chance to play an excellent modded STTNG this weekend. Wow, what a game! I've never really been a fan of the show so never really payed attention to it. Since I liked the new ST so much and this one looked awesome with leds and color dmd, I had to give it a try. Like the new ST, I was hooked right from the start and quickly learned how to play it. Loved the dual cannons and variety of targets. Loved the choices you get on ball launch and all the different modes. Not so happy about the blackhole like side drains. I still prefer the new ST, though. Hopefully, I can be a member of the club next year.

New member checking in - got ST Pro in the house! It's my 2nd pin and 1st NIB. So excited! I tried out a lot of other pins, including all the new Sterns, but ST is still my favorite by a long shot. The leds, the sounds, and smooth gameplay make for one incredible experience playing it. I got the basics of the rules but still a lot to learn.

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I had a great game tonight and got 134,293,110. I'm still not sure about rules and scoring. I just go for lit shots and vengeance. That's what I like about ST - classic pinball hitting ramps, pop bumpers, and targets. Multiball is fairly easy to get to and you don't get punished for every missed shot. Even when I have a bad game, it's still fun.

Does the center drop target function okay? Some guys had trouble with it and posted fixes earlier in this thread. Something about it sticking.

Funny thing happened last night. My ST stopped serving balls in a multiball and went into ball search mode. All the balls were in the trough and all the switches was working. I was getting pretty upset that my brand new pin stopped working but then I figured it out. A bulb popped out of one of the spot lamps and got stuck in the trough. Doh

I've been playing for a week or so but can't figure out what the Captain's Chair means when it is flashing. Is that related to the middle shot being lit to activate a Vengeance mode?

Okay. I thought it meant there was shot to do something..

Not a big fan of hot glue but might have to do that.

Anyone install the cliffy protector for the lock on a pro? I have one and looks like you have to take a lot off the playfield to install it. Is there an easy way to get it installed?

I think I have blue putty around the house so will try that. Glue is just too messy. I had an insert bulb that also gave me trouble right off the bat. I had to fiddle with it three separate times to get it to stay lit. It's annoying but if that all the trouble I have for a long time I will be happy.

I had trouble with nero3 and now I see why. Game just gets better and better as I learn more about it.

The best I would say is the Papa tutorial on youtube even though it is old code.

I think owning ST has made me more of a fan. Love all the sounds and call outs. I saw the first ST movie but never bothered with the 2nd. Now I really want to see it. I am going to look for it on Netflix!

Wow. I got 130m not too long after getting mine but can't get no where near it since. I finally had a pretty good game yesterday at 97m but that was with a lot of free balls. The balls seems to love draining now and I barely make any progress. One of the frustrating things is when the left ball lock bounces the ball of the top of the left sling and then straight down the right drain.

I'm not that serious about movies. I don't really care about how things are changed or how original the story is. If the movie is well done and entertaining then I like it. I feel the same way about pins. I don't care who designed it, who made it, what the theme is, or any of the drama created by over zealous fans. If it is fun to play then I like it.

Have you got under the playfield to investigate? I would put a ball in place and see what it is doing. Maybe it just needs an adjustment.

Question about PD2 mode - is there a pattern or something other than just making lit shots to complete the mode? I usually try to complete all the level 1 modes first but now I am doing columns to explore the level 2 and 3 modes. In PD2, I am making good shots but the mode suddenly ends in a relatively short time. I think I finished the mode but on the next mission start, PD2 is still available. When I start it again, I usually just have to make one or two shots and then it is complete. It seems like I have to make a series of specific shots in a short time and it saves your progress. Am I missing something?

Cool, thanks for the tip. I thought there was more to it than that. You have to make every shot in the game with no time to miss a shot. I am definitely changing that timer.

I like playing columns instead of rows. Game seems more interesting that way and easier to get points.

Great job! Looks great with the LEDs.

Anyone else have the metal guide bending back? Only had the game for a month and just noticed it. I'm not sure if it makes the shot harder - always a tough one for me. Sometimes the balls does bounce around and not sit but that is rare.

Also, my drop target is getting stubborn about registering direct, hard hits. Soft hits even if it's just a touch always work. I read that the spring might be responsible for this. Is that right?

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My drop target drops fine from what I can tell. My issue was that it does not detect hits when you need to hit a bunch of times to drop or a shot in one of the modes. I suppose it's all related but from I have read there is a spring you can play with to resolve some of these issues. I'm just not sure if that has to do with the up/down mechanism or registering hits.

I don't think there are any physical differences in the playfield. The angle I took the pic probably makes it look different. I don't have the problem of the ball catching on the target on the way down. Is yours bent? You can probably adjust it a little.

I haven't looked but not many since I just got it Jan 1st. I emailed Stern about it and they are going to send me a replacement.

Congrats! Aurich just started a new run so contact him quick if you want one. I got one on order and can't wait to get it. The shaker motor is another great mod and easy to install - all plug and play.

Color dmd looks awesome in STTNG. There is suppose to be one for ST this year.

My top flipper is strong but I it has to be to get the ball up the warp ramp. Those post rubbers look beat but not sure that has anything with them getting bent. Mine wore fast and had one break weeks after I got the machine. I went with clear super band mini post rubbers. They look much better and I expect them to last longer than stock rubber.

You got double scoring past warp 9 somewhere.

I did the same exact same - blue on the bottom two and red up top. They do feel different but I think I play the same with them. Perhaps the original rubbers are a little better but I really like how the super bands hold up and love the colors.

The super band mini's on the posts are a must around the warp ramp. I used the clear ones and want to replace all of them eventually. I totally agree that around the outlanes they are very bouncy.

I'm starting to a crack in the corner of the alpha ramp. Is this common? It's not very noticeable but wondering what I can do about it. I can live with it but don't want it to get worse.

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I have around 560 plays. I had the glass off and just noticed it last weekend. Maybe it was caused by an air ball.

Nice mods Rensh. I had not seen those cool sling protectors before. Had to get myself a pair. Sadly, I just noticed that both my sling plastics have cracked at the skinny part next to the spotlight. Why did they make it so thin right there where it is most vulnerable? Oh well, should be hard to see once I get my new sling protectors. I wouldn't mind getting those ramp protectors - anyone in the states selling them?

I finally beat my high score a couple of days ago - got 143m. That was a fun game. Of course, after that I could barely break 10m per game. In one game, I thought I saw broken plastic pieces in front of the left sling. I then saw a screw and quickly turned off the game. It was in the middle of a multiball so everything got knocked around. Nothing was broken so I don't know what that was. I did find the screw in the trough so maybe it was just that. The screw was from the tip of the left ramp where it bolts to the sling. I must of forgot to tighten it when I last worked on it or else the shaker motor worked it loose.

Question for ST owners - When a ball is locked behind the drop target in the Vengeance and you hit the flippers, the score goes up a little. During Vengeance battle, the game seems to make sounds as if it's registering hits. Everything plays fine everything looks fine in the test menu. Is this normal? One of my boys actually discovered this. I found him hammering on the flippers as he was trying to squeeze out the points. Minor thing but curious if something needs to be tweaked.

As suspected, hitting the flippers with the ball in the vengeance registers hits. During vengeance battle, I can just hit the flippers a bunch of times and finish the mode before the drop target drops. Anyone now of a way to fix this?

I poked around a little bit tonight but cannot find anything wrong. In the switch test menu, everything works as it should. Flippers only activate their switches and both optos work perfectly by themselves. Obviously I can just avoid hitting the flippers but I still would like to know what's going on.

I bought the game Jan 1 and it does have the latest code. I will double check it this weekend but I remember making sure it had 1.5 when I bought it. In testing, I did try to hold a ball in the beam and hit the flippers but that worked fine. I just cannot see how the beam of light could get around the ball that is clearly blocking the path. The optos seem to work perfectly otherwise and recognize the ball at the right times. Sometimes the drop target does not catch a ball in time but that seems to be a common issue. If there was a flaky connection I would think there would be all kinds of issues in gameplay. I am going to email Stern support and see what they have to say.

Mine only increments the score with the ball in the vengeance with the drop down up. In the switch test, everything works fine - even with the drop down target up. The score looks like it goes up about 10k per flipper hit during a lock and counts for a vengeance shot during battle.

Installed the pinbits sling covers today. I hated the stock metal washers. Clear washers were better but I still didn't like the look of washers sticking out of the corners. Plus they only protected the corners. These look way better, protect better, and capture the light - pretty cool. I guess they were made for LE/premium because they didn't have a cutout for the spotlight wires. No big deal. I made one myself with a drill and files. The sling protectors are also thick so not a lot of threads left to grab onto. I had to do away with a few washers to get things back together. Just thought I would post that info in case someone else with a pro was thinking of getting these.

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Yeah, novus is for cleaning plastics. The higher the number the more aggressive it is. I do use novus1 to clean playfields, though. You want a carnauba wax without cleaners or anything else in it. You wipe it on, let it dry to a haze, and then wipe it off Karate Kid style. Smells awesome, too. I have not waxed ST - heard you don't really need to do it to modern playfields. I waxed my Getaway earlier this year. Played crazy fast to where it was almost unplayable but lots of fun.

Thanks for the info. How hard is it to take all that apart?

Follow up on my issue with flipper hits trigger bottom vengeance opto with ball lock: I called Stern and they suggested checking the wiring. They mentioned something about bending the prongs on the board that the opto connects to under the playfield. I suppose the idea is that it's a loose connection and bending them will help create a tighter fit. I checked all that and the connections seem pretty solid to me. I rerouted some of the wires away from the magnet thinking maybe that might be something. After all the fiddling, I still have the issue. Stern mentioned the only other option is replacing parts but don't feel like going down that road over a minor issue.

On the positive side, I've been getting better and beat my high score several times the last week or so. Yesterday I got 162m and 24 warp shots. I was killing it with combos - love this game!

Glad you fixed your problems. How did you tweak them?

I had a led go out in one of the pops so I swapped it with a comet ice blue 1 smd led. It looked so much better so I replaced all of them. Gives off a rich blue color instead of a pale blue. I also put red LEDs in the coin door. Looks a lot better since the top button and dmd is red. Anyone do any other led swaps?

Forgot the pic of the ice blue LEDs in the pops.

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I can agree to that. The red in all Stern's displays are so harsh. I actually prefer the Orange in older games. You would think we could at least choose a few colors or have full color by now. Good thing we should get colordmd support soon.

Jfh - love your game room!

I watched ST: Into the Darkness last night on Netflix. Great movie! I'm not tied to the past and like the reboot stuff. Actors do a good job and I think they have nice chemistry. Nice to finally see what all the modes and callouts are about. My favorite are the rants of Admiral Marcus in the start of Vengeance MB. I also thought it was funny that the "are you drunk" call out is actually from the movie. S. Ritchie and Stern did a great job using so much from the movie.

I also had my best game ever on ST last night and got 232m. I have been using some of the strategies mentioned here by going for ramp multipliers first. My personal goal when I first got it was to get over 200m. I guess my next goal is to get to Amok and 5 yr mission. I keep liking this pin more and more!

Nice! I know you are going to have fun with that. I've had mine for 3 months and love it. It should get even better with the update.

The dmd glare always bothered me on my ST. For $16, I figured it was worth trying Comet's glare eliminator and glad I did. I knew it was supposed to work but cool to see it for myself. Now I can see the vengeance and back of the game without that annoying dmd reflection. Installation was a breeze - it just sticks to the front of the speaker panel and perfectly inside Aurich's decal. It does dim the dmd a bit and gives it a matte finish. A plus for me because I think the dmd was too bright and harsh to begin with. Pic makes the dmd look orange but it's still red.

http://www.cometpinball.com/DMD-GLARE-ELIMINATOR-p/dmdglare.htm

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Yeah, it is just a thin piece of plastic with double sided tape on the left/right edges. It would be super easy to remove and transfer to another game - might have to change out the double sided tape, though. It does have a little thickness to it. It mounted flush with Aurich's speaker panel decal.

It appears the latest code has fixed my little problem with the flippers activating the bottom opto during a ball lock/vengeance battles. It's hard to tell if the scoring is going up by the flippers like before because there is usually something other than the score on the screen when a ball is behind the drop target. During vengeance battles, I cannot activate hits by the flippers before the ball drops like before. I don't know how it would of been fixed but it seems to be.

I can check mine later. First thought is that those circuits are not used or not active at that time - no current.

Ain't that the truth. Double scoring should be renamed "time to suck really hard and drain in less than a minute" on my machine.

You need to get 1.61 since it fixes major bugs. Good score, though. Double scoring really can pay off. I like to go for double scoring right before Kobi Mary. If you do well on medals, scoring is huge.

Recently noticed my right flipper buzzes a little. Not sure about the left or how long it has been doing it. Thought that was normal for Stern pins. Is it a sign of a problem?

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I have the same led issue with some of the inserts. Not sure what to say. I had to get under the playfield and adjust the wires to get one to light just the other day. I also have a slight flipper buzz but I don't hear it with a normal volume setting. From what others say, it is normal so I am not worried about it.

I don't think the warp ramp is hard to adjust with a long screwdriver - at least on my pro. On mine, I believe it is adjusted all the way to the right. The ball should feed right to the upper flipper. I can get 4-5 consecutive warp shots no problem. Sometimes the ball gets bouncing around when it's going fast and has a wicked spin.

Hitting the mission start is difficult. I find it easier hitting the left lock shot by controlling the ball and hitting it off the end of the flipper. After a lot of plays, it does get easier. I think you will also appreciate more of the gameplay features with more practice. On the surface, modes appear repititive but there are different patterns and different scoring strategies to explore. Once you get better at the away team shot, that kind change up the level1 modes as well.

I enjoyed the game from day1. However, with the update and a better understanding of the details of the rules, I find if much more satisfying to play today. There are so many scoring opportunities and different ways to play.

Nice looking STTNG Meph. Great pics, too. Second on Comet's crystal bulbs - using them in the pop on my Getaway. On my ST, I put ice blue 1 smd bulbs in the pops and they are plenty bright.

Don't worry about the fast gameplay and drains. It will slow down and get back to normal after a few plays. I waxed my Getaway and it was almost unplayable for a while. It was fast to begin with but after the wax you had barely any time to react. I can't imagine waxing ST and getting those kinds of speed. Someday I will give it a go.

Unless you have cash to burn, pro is the smart choice imo. The premium is all cosmetics - expensive cosmetics at that. I actually prefer the color led's in the pro instead of all color changers and the plastic ramps. With the help of Aurich's translite/decals and a few mods, my pro looks like a premium for way less. I suppose the premium will probably do better when it comes time to sell but I don't worry about those kinds of things. Buy a pro, get the mods you like, and enjoy.

I wish there was ice blue crystals - love the color. I have red crystals in the pops on my Getaway and love them. When I get enough of an order to justify shipping, I will try some crystals in ST. Seems like I always need a dollar or so in parts but never a bunch at once. When I do order, I then remember a few things I forgot. Frustrating.

I put on the same clear super post rubbers. They look perfect, stay clean, and more important don't break. The are super bouncy, though.

Congrats! ST was my first NIB pin, too. Make sure it has the latest code 1.61 when you get it. I recommend getting the shaker and Aurich's translite. You are going to love it!

The update certainly did create a buzz for the game. More than a few did voice concern over the code in the past so wouldn't be surprised if there was a spike in sales. If they can get more updates out for even older games, I bet their sales would pick up with people gaining confidence that Stern is focused on making things right.

In the future, it would sure be nice to have a larger color display divided in two. Info like score, multipliers, timers, double scoring, shots left, ball locks, etc. get displayed on one part of the display and all animations on another part. That way you can look up and get any important info instantly and still have fun with animations for all things. I still don't understand how Stern can put in such crude displays that have been in use for 25 years in new games. My stupid old phone has a better display than the ST I bought this year.

All the inserts light at different parts of the game. It's part of the light show. The extra ball also is like this. Just because it lights for a brief second, doesn't mean you can get an extra ball. It has to be stuck on. Ball save is only on at ball launch, mb start, and add ball.

LOL - talk about first world problems. I don't know where I would keep so many pins. Maybe when all my kids move out I can turn the entire upstairs to a gameroom. By then I will be broke and pins will probably cost three times as much.

Don't worry. It takes a lot of practice to get that warp ramp shot and to learn the game in general. I have some good games now and then but mostly mediocre ones. The drop target issue is common on all Stern games from what I understand. There are ways to try and fix it but it seems like the problem returns after a while. It doesn't happen too often on mine and I just deal with it. It's not a difficult shot so I can usually make another shot quickly.

Updates are always cool but I am pretty happy with 1.61. I have had a few issues of not being able to start a mode but have not noticed any other bugs. It would be nice to see better black hole awards and improvements to vengeance modes. Making it easier to start a mode would also be a huge plus but understand that would be difficult. It sounds like TWD could use an update a lot more than ST at this point.

52? Anyone have more warps? My best is 27. Hitting the warp ramp on cue is tough. I can hit it during gameplay now and then but tough when you really need it. Sometimes you can kind of craddle the ball with the third flipper or knock it up a little bit to get an easy shot. Going for the warp ramp on every ball launch is a good way to practice. You can get a nice skill shot award if you do it right. I feel pretty good when I get that.

220 warps!? That just sounds crazy.

Thanks for posting up that video. I didn't quite understand the washer fix but do now.

It's pretty cool how a few planned shots can blow up the score. I tried something similar the other day to combo the final vengeance shot. Not easy. I ended up draining and loosing a lot of points. Hard to be mad because I was getting greedy.

I think that is what really puts ST over the top. At every point in the game, there are different ways to score. You can play it safe and just go for what is lit or add risk by going for a combo shot or warp 2x. The more I play ST the more I like it.

I put mine on the outside. It fits nice and flush with Aurich's speaker panel decal.

^^^ That's a lot of setup. I can get a decent score but still have not made it to EA wizard mode yet. I sometimes go for KB 1-3 first but most of the time I just go for completing all lv1 modes. It's more rewarding to do that than to just finish random modes. My focus is on smaller goals like trying to get warp 2x at the best time, playing out gat, and doing well in mb. When I do those decently, I can get a pretty good score (350-400m) without playing out too many modes.

Love what you did with ST. Never get tired of looking at that translite. What are you thinking of replacing ST with?

I waxed ST the other day. I didn't take anything apart but did wax the ramps as well. Plays so fast I can barely keep up and a lot more side drains. It's hard to get a good score but did get 38m in one mode with gat and no multipliers. I was nailing the spinner and warp combo over and over. That was fun.

Nice work. I can't even get half that score or get to amok. I find it kind of odd you have not beat vengeance3 before with a score like that. The hard thing for me is to hold it off until I get a decent score and then try to do sudden death on a combo. Otherwise it's just a handful of shots up the middle and not a huge payout.

Nice - congrats! ST sure looks bright next to Metallica. The light show is probably my favorite thing about ST.

The clear post rubbers look really good and hold up well. I did have one break by the vengeance but the rest still look brand new. I used blue on the lower flippers and red on the upper flipper. I've been thinking of trying the Titan rubbers, though. Sounds like they perform a little better.

Anyone lose music after Kobayashi Maru? It just keeps playing the weird, spacy sounds and does not change when playing lv2 modes. It happened before and happened again this weekend. I think what happened was I entered Kobayashi Maru, skipped the intro, and drained without finishing. Music was jacked up until I drained again.

Read back through this thread for a bunch of on typical issues, mods, and such. There is also a thread going about gameplay strategies. I would just play and have fun for now.

Having the magnet hold the balls for locks is a great idea. I notice my game fails to catch the ball a lot after the update.

I think I will switch to titan rubbers. I like the super bands but I do get a lot of crazy spin. Anyone try titan post rubbers? I have clear super post rubbers. They look great but might be a little to bouncy.

He is talking about the ball coming out of the pops, not the warp. Mine follows the side and gives you a good shot at warp. If yours doesn't, check if the playfield is level.

I've played with mine a few times and it's hard to get perfect. Often the ball comes out of the warp with a lot of spin/force and is all over the place. I'm wondering if that has to do with the super bands since many claim you get more ball spin with them.

For ST owners:

I decided to do something about the stubborn drop target. Most of the time it works but quite often it did not register hard hits. Common Stern issue. I didn't mind when it failed to register one hit here and there but it was getting 4-5 times in a row. I scanned old threads and found something that seems to work. Supposedly, a red spring is suppose to be used instead of the blue/purple one like I have. Not sure about that but the easy fix is to just extend the spring out a bit and attach it a quarter inch or so short. Pic borrowed from the following thread about Metallica but exactly what I did. It worked perfectly with all type of hits for several games. True test will be over many games but figured I would share for those looking to try something.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/unplayable-drop-targets-metallica-pro-anyone-have-a-fix
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Ramps cracking/chipping at the edges are common. As far as I know, the only solution is the freddy protectors. You can get them off ebay. Stock post rubbers don't last long around the warp ramp. Replace them with clear super mini posts for longer life and better looks. There are many issues with the drop target like not registering hits, not moving up/down, and more. Fixes involve adding washers and spring adjustments.

I checked my pro last night and noticed the same thing - cracking in the clear coat where the ball drops on the rollover switch area. It's pretty hard to notice unless you are looking for it up close. I suspect it can only get worse over time.

No grand score for me recently but I did put on mirror blades from pinballsidemirrors.com this week. Looks awesome. My kids were away at camp and when they got back my boys mentioned the game look different. They said it looked brighter or something like that but couldn't figure out what I did until I told them. You forget they are there and the game just shines. I also put on a custom shooter rod from mezelmods. Quality is not all that great but still better than stock.

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It seemed like there was plenty of room on mine. I can slide the playfield over side to side what seems like a decent amount. The blades were a little thicker than I expected but I guess they need to be for strength. Putting them in was super easy but it is a tight fit with both in. You have to be slow and careful when raises and lowering the playfield. Not easy with the Stupid Stern system where you have to lift the back while sliding it back in. I had a few scuffs after lowering the playfield but everything looked good after a little hand polish.

Can't say I have but I have hit the right ramp from the upper flipper a few times.

STTNG and ST are kind of similar but I think they would go together well in a small collection. Both are great fun and have plenty of appeal for non Star Trek fans. There are plenty of other great pins, though. You just have to figure out what are your 3 favorite.

Anyone replace all the rubbers in a ST pro? Looks like some of mine are about to go and going to replace all of them with Titan rubbers. The manual is confusing. The rubber part list and diagram don't match up. It says there are 6 of the 3/16" (#13) but I only count 4 in the picture. The picture also shows different rubber sizes for the top of the multiplier lane than bottom. Looks the same to me and maybe that has something to do with the count. Also what is the size of the rubber to the left of the right ramp entrance? The picture says it's a 1 1/4" but the list does not have a quantity count for that. There is a 1 1/2" in the list that is not accounted for in the picture. Which is it? I could buy extras to make sure I have everything but hate wasting money on stuff I don't need.

I want to get clear rings for ST and for my Getaway but Titan is out of stock of those in some of the sizes. When I get the rings, I don't know if I will have time to do a full shop and don't know if I can stop playing lol. It looks like the right ramp will need to come off but the rest doesn't look to bad.

The blue plastic cover for one of the multiplier lanes broke on my ST pro. The side section that protects the bulb broke off. Anyone know where I can buy a replacement? I can't find it listed anywhere, even in the manual.

*Edit* - Figured it out. In case anyone wants to know it's part# 550-5061-05.

My only guess is to do a factory reset. I don't see a setting for the score itself since it adjusts based on score. There are settings for replay levels but not exactly sure what that means. I know the score setting adjusts up if you get higher scores but not sure if it goes down.

You can get the Freddy protectors on ebay:

ebay.com link: 2 ramp protector sets for Stern Star Trek pinball alpha beta ramp

They are kind of a pain to put on since they install behind the stock protectors that have to be bent. I don't know why they didn't just design one piece to replace the stock units. Kind of expensive, too, but I don't know of any other solutions. I don't know how common cracked/broken ramps are but many of us have that problem. My left ramp corner near the vengeance broke off. Wish I got the protectors earlier but at least they cover up the damage.

Are you talking about the post rubbers at the front? I've replaced those with super post rubbers. There were a pain to get on but not the worst. I've ordered Titan rubbers to replace all the remaining rubber. Not sure when I am going to have time to install them, though.

Word has been that there will be another update. No major changes. Just fix a few bugs to finish it off.

I started changing out the stock rubbers for Titans. Ran into a few problems. One being I did not order enough rings and the manual has several errors. Two, I'm not sure how to get to this one rubber to the right of the vengeance. I thought I could loosen or remove a few screws to lift the vengeance assembly up a little bit but that sucker is nailed down tight. Any ideas?

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I looked at Zitt's instructions but don't think it helps much. The pro is different. I could probably figure it out if I just start taking things apart but not going to do that. It was a pain to just do the ones under the right ramp so I had enough fun. Somehow I ended up with wrong sized rubbers and lacking one but made it work. Not sure I am feeling the clear rubbers either. Better than the dirty stock rubbers but think colors like blue would be better.

I thought all 3 flipper games had staged flippers. Really hard to use that feature for me so I don't even think about it.

I have a few like that. I've had to play with the wires more than a few times but not lately. Check to make sure the bulb itself is seated properly. I've had them wiggle loose.

Pro is kicking my butt lately, too. I'm not sure if it's the Freddy protectors or the new balls I am using but hitting the left ramp is pretty difficult now. If the ball hits the side at all it just bounces around and falls back down the ramp. I suppose my skills could be better.

I shortened the spring on my drop target a while back. It was perfect for a while but rejects a hard shot now and then. Still works more than 90% of the time so not an issue for me.

You need a small wrench or something to unscrew the hex risers and for the nuts holding the slings. The protectors are made for an LE and the pro is a little different. I had to drill out a hole and slot the side for the spotlight wires. I talked about doing that earlier in this thread. I also had to leave off some washers when putting it back together.

Cool idea. Mine gets stuck there often but a little nudge is all it needs. Sometimes I leave a ball parked there in multiball - lol.

Broke my warp record tonight - 38! I didn't count but I must of got 7 or 8 in row early in the game. I hit 9.1 the second time right before going into Koby Maru and then hit 9.9 before that double scoring ran out. Ended up with a decent score of 360m. Far from my best but it's been a while since I had a good game like that.

I've beaten Kob Maru a handful of times. The ending is kinda weak. A nice tweak would be a final shot (like at end of lv1 modes) to the vengeance. That way the game could trap the ball and you could have some nice lighting effects and dots.

I think that is common, Steve. I would definitely talk to your distributor or Stern. I'm pretty sure Stern would send you a replacement no problem. I think someone made a replacement that is thicker but not sure. My pro has been fine over many plays.

I got the double super jackpot in Klingon MB last night. That felt good. I had a decent score (300m) going into Vengeance 3, got greedy going for warp 9.9 double scoring, and drained. That was frustrating because I was so close to a huge one shot score. I did get into Koby Maru with only a few seconds to spare in first double scoring so that was cool. I'm still trying hard to make it to EA but I enjoy little victories like that.

I could use a little help with my ST. I was getting random ramp shots triggered in gameplay. Tracked it to the second left ramp opto. It was extremely sensitive would trigger by just touching the ramp or opto. I fiddle with it and now it is just stuck on. I need to remove the warp ramp to get to it but having trouble doing so. I have it loose but still don't see how it is suppose to come out. Anyone remove the warp ramp? Does it go out the back or pull it out from the front of the backboard? It would be nice to have some idea of how to do it before taking more things apart.

The opto is engaged all the time - shows as triggered in switch test. It was working but extremely sensitive. Hitting the left flipper would trigger it briefly and so would touch the ramp. I tried to see if it was loose and poked at it. I tried reseating connectors but they seem fine. It doesn't seem loose but might be dirty. I just cannot determine much with the warp ramp and plastics covering it.

I checked my coils and have the same - smaller coil up top. The manual is wrong about rubbers, too. I'm guessing it was written early in development before changes were made. I would just replace what you have with the same part.

As far as my opto issue, I got the warp ramp out of the way. You have to take everything off the top of the warp ramp to remove it. What a pain. After getting better access to the opto on the right ramp, I'm pretty sure it's defective so ordered a new one.