Hawkmoon,begs,yes i wanna be a member too,guys,boy i barely get to captains chair on the last ball so i have some practice to do!!! But to reply to the inquiry about the shaker motor,my vengeance came with it already hooked up and i would mention something here,,,I'm 65yrs old and have tinnitus from all the loud music in my past,you really might consider hurting yourself when your 64 and you wish you hadnt,peace,Hawkmoon