Yeah, I will see if I can borrow a digital level from the office. There's a great big spot in the middle of the playfield to place it and get an accurate reading, so I can probably get my friend or my wife to check it for me while I'm under there. It COULD just be the damn slide pads taking a second to sink in while running that Pinguy app, too.

Thanks for the tips overall. I'll report back after getting more games in tonight. I'm considering closing the right outlane to the tightest position to help with ball times. I want to get better at the shots before opening them back up. I completed 5 modes over lunch, so I'm STARTING to feel it out.

OH! Should I use all my missiles every time I get them, or is there some strategy to saving them? I feel like smashing the button every time I see 3 lights on the field...Hell, I haven't plunged the ball normally but two or three times! I love that launch button, haha.

I personally save them. Starting Vengeance 1 isn't that big a deal, I get my hits in during single ball play, then I unload my missiles once started to drop the health so I can set up a combo for the final shot. Difference between 5 or 10 million making that combo.

Ensign Underlord. Permission to board?

Uhh, you have to ask Capt. Picard..............

I love how I can have what I perceive to be a strong game and only score 30m, yet have an "OK" game and score 50m. Silly pinball...

I asked Admiral Janeway. She said its cool.

image-869.jpg

I love good pop bumper action and ST has it. I've gotten some really good ones from Mustang also. For me pops make the game.

Oh its fun! But I wasn't sure if it was normal, haha.

Love the pops on mine , they are awesome !

To get the best pop action the ball has to fall from the left or center in lane.

So I just noticed the Warp Ramp chase lights...How fantastic are those?! So many lights on this game goodness! <3

Did you get the pitch set?

No, I think they're standard on Premium? I don't know - there's some LED strips on the warp ramp that light when you hit it! My wife notices them before I did, and now I get excited to nail that shot, haha.

E: Or are you asking something else and I just missed it?

Warp ramp lights are standard on Premium, yes.

Where do you buy those LED rings? I see PBL sells the caps with the rings already installed, but I don't need new caps, I just want the LED rings alone.

I just did a STNG KBOP mod on my machine:
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/sttng-bird-of-prey-mod#post-1714461

and was rewarded with some love by the game giving me all artifacts for Final Frontier... 3.8billion later; my game ended. Anyone else notice how the games seem to give you love when you take care of them in some way?!

Just ordered pinballbulbs Ultimate LED kit for my STTNG! Can't wait!!!!

That's gonna look sharp.

Changed my pitch today - definitely less airballs from general knocking around...However, I'm still getting a lot of balls jumping off the left wireform. Any way to help with this?

Yay! I'm finally a member of this club. I got an early Father's Day present when my Star Trek Pro arrived a week earlier than expected.

A lot of fun, though I have a lot to learn about how to play it!

ST_NIB.JPG

Welcome, another happy member. Any mods planned? Did ya get it NIB?

Yes, it was NIB. I have a shaker motor coming but so far no other mods. Considering my only pin before this one was a 1986 Bally Special Force, this one seems flashy enough by itself at the moment. Perhaps in a year or so I'll consider some mods.

(And thanks for the recommendation of removing the ceiling tiles in my basement -- if you remember. Made just enough space to fit the pin.)

I know what ya mean about being flashy enough for now but the mods for this game are really something. The shaker really adds a lot, good choice.

I remember that about your ceiling tiles, your very welcome. I suppose your wife thought you were crazy when you started taking them down. How many did ya up take down, 1, 2?

Posted details, schematics, etc for the LED wing mod in this thread:
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stng-modding-a-modded-klingon-bird-of-prey

Edit: Only 22hrs left...
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/newstarship/hollywood-sci-fi-science-fiction-museum
Seems like they are within 6k of their goal.

Ha! Try about 30 or more. I had to take down a whole section. My wife wasn't entirely thrilled after I did that. But I got a nice hanging lamp from Ikea, and I ordered some fabric that I'm going to drape over the ceiling to hide the pipes. So, I think it will look pretty decent in the end. You got to make sacrifices sometimes!

Switched back to regular rubbers and think I like it more. Much more like what I'm used to and what I expect.

Also, Star Trek is getting a TON of love this weekend. Everyone LOVES this game - the LEDs are gorgeous and catch everyone's eye...On top of that, the way it plays is so transparent on most levels. That makes it so incredibly approachable to non-pinheads, which is awesome.

Sounds like you'll be cleaning it on a regular basis with all that play. I'm not even going to color match the inserts on mine, I love the way the inserts "sparkle" with the clear dome leds in it.

Really, that many, sounds like your planning for the future. You thought about just painting all that flat black? I did that and there is no reflection on the pf glass from above the games at all. Just a thought.

Not a big deal cleaning flipper rubbers every month or so.
Some eye candy to keep the thread going
photo-74.JPG

My basement was in sections with cross beams. It was easier to remove the whole section. It looks ok, but yeah, I think I need to put cloth up for the sake of my marriage.

I cannot hit Away Team for the life of me. So frustrating! I've also found that my current score ceiling is ~47m. Every few games, I'll have a good run and land in the 35-45m range after finishing 4-5 missions. I need to work on NOT flailing during multiball.

Also, I'm still mulling over a mod to put at the bends on the wireform to prevent the ball from jumping off. The ball just moves SO fast up that ramp and around those bends!

Oh, one more thing...

I twisted the opto wires to fix my Vengeance magnet, but it actually messed up again yesterday. Can someone send me a picture of their fix? I'm wondering if the problem is related to the fact that I bundled the two twisted wires with some other wires under the playfield. It's a real bummer when that happens.

E: 67m over lunch holy hell - such a rush! Once I zoned into what I was doing and was paying attention to shots, I was on a ROLL. Still only 5 modes deep...I should focus on hitting the torpedo targets more since I often times forget to aim for them at all.

I wont be able to get my Star Trek Premium like originally planned, so I have a few things for sale that I picked up along the way for the game:

1. Vengeance visor with flex head LED flasher (same one that was on ebay awhile back)
2. pinbits slingshot protectors with hexagon pattern over the inlanes
3. Insignia light diffuser by mezelmods
4. Flipper rubber 2 Blue and 1 Purple- from Titan pinball
5. Several apron custom cards

Only will sale together, not individual pieces
All for $45. pm me, and will get back to you.

Darn, that would have been a good deal if I hadn't purchased most of that already.

Ditto.

Just took possession of ST Pro Refinery #1! What a machine!

post up pic's?

Also no one responded yet, the $45 does include the shipping to you

So I feel safe asking here...

What's up with people's beef with the code on ST? I understand that the shield targets do nothing on the Pro, but other than that, do people just feel like the modes are too repetitive and there's not a lot to do outside of them? I find that varying my approach to progression keeps every game fresh. I mean, there's only SO much to shoot at in a pinball machine, so the way the modes work makes it so I at least have to vary my shot progression and combos...

Also, my original request for someone's opto wire twist pic still stands (if you've had to do it). Had another instance of the balls sticking during Vengeance yesterday.

I don't have a picture handy, but... after you twist the opto wires make sure that they are away from the magnet. I used a few small zip ties.

This may be my problem. I'll check it over lunch, thanks!

Enjoy a good game that will only get better with the next code update.

There's a whole list of issues in the star trek = work thread. But some of the major ones are:

-Misson Start & Away Team shot (you should relate to this from your previous posts) - but its too much effort and work to make these shots 17 times (possible) everytime you complete a mission. Levels 1 & 2 should tie in more smoother so as not to force players to struggle so often and slow down the pace of the game.

-Warp ramp needs more better rewards

- Level 1 missions need a complete rework and not a bandaid fix which unfortunately is probably what it will get.

- away team needs some other rules associated to it

- apron lights need to be implemented

- klingon mb double and super jackpot scoring needs a major tweak

- vengeance scoring and battle need tweaking and ability to stack with missions if started.

- enterprise amok should be qualified from completing 2(or 3) entire missions

- Blackhole mb needs implementation and utilization of the laser show (personal favorite and hopeful thinking here)

Good question. I just got ST premium last week, and I've been really impressed with the code and rule set. I understand people's argument that the modes are too similar, but like you said, there's really only so many shots in pinball, so how do you distinguish between modes? So far, I think ST had done a pretty good job with this. Of course, the color changing LED's really help, plus the dots and sounds. Maybe when the Carl Urban pack is released people will warm up to ST more.

Good post. I haven't read this thread yet - headed there now.

Thanks for your post Eskaybee. That definitely helps a scrub tier player like myself understand some of the deeper potential that this game has!

Twin refinery editions! I'm glad to be a member of the ST club! Fast! Fast! Fast!

image.jpg

thedudeabides sold his STRE

You're still in the honeymoon phase, give it some time. The problem with the code is the level one missions. They all feel the same, if you play one after another it's like chopping wood, the level 2 and 3 missions are fine.

Sweet. I have Refinery Met #8. What is yours?

Yes to me

The Met pro is #10, ST pro #1!