Firepower
Williams, 1980Hi.
I am uncertain about one thing.
Regarding the star rollover assembly.
Are they supposed to be complete flush/level with the playfield when pressed down?
When i press mine down they are slightly above the playfield. This results in the ball jumping a little when rolling over the stars.
Mine are clean but the stars dont go all the way down so that they are completely flush with playfield
Quoted from kiario:Its not the leaf switch that is stoping the star to be flush, its bottoming out in the insert and can therefore not be completely flush with playfield.
The star rollovers are all the same as far as I know. I have some used and some new ones in my drawer. They all measure .250.
Measure you insert hole in the play field for depth of at least .250.
If a star came out of that hole another one should go in. You might have to set it with a block of wood because that are tight.
Quoted from kiario:Its not the leaf switch that is stoping the star to be flush, its bottoming out in the insert and can therefore not be completely flush with playfield.
Has the playfield been clearcoated, or is it a CPR?
It's possible that somebody did not cover the hole and now a buildup of clear is preventing the star from being flush when depressed.
Yes i clearcoated it. But i inserted the old stars up side down prior to clear coat. There is no clear in the insert. I found my old stars and they look different than the new ones i bought. I think that the new ones are different design and will not go all the way down. Will try the old ones after they have been cleaned of the clear.
Thanks for the tips.
Br Anders
You're correct. The new double star rollover inserts have a thicker stem than the originals. Maybe this will help:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/replacing-star-double-star-rollover-inserts-moving-part
I have this same problem on my Dungeons & Dragons.... ball gets stuck in the left star rollover. I have replaced the star with a new one, and it does go down easy. Mine actually seems like the ball gets stuck in the "fork" of the two of the prongs of the star. Still not sure what the fix is.
Quoted from Clnilsen:I have this same problem on my Dungeons & Dragons.... ball gets stuck in the left star rollover. I have replaced the star with a new one, and it does go down easy. Mine actually seems like the ball gets stuck in the "fork" of the two of the prongs of the star. Still not sure what the fix is.
Reform the switch blade that presses up on the stem so that it just barely pushes the star back up to 'home'.
Hi, my problem is not that the star is stuck in the insert when pressed down but instead that it is not exactly flush with the insert/ playfield when it is pressed down.
I just rechecked again and I even drilled a little on the insert but the stem of the star where it is joining to the star is hitting the insert sleeve before the star tip is below or totally flush with the insert.
There is no clear blocking.
I guess this is by design because there is no way it can be flush without some rework of the star or insert.
Its just that if it is not totally flush the ball will jump slightly instead of rolling over the star without going airborne a millimeter or so.
Quoted from kiario:Hi, my problem is not that the star is stuck in the insert when pressed down but instead that it is not exactly flush with the insert/ playfield when it is pressed down.
I just rechecked again and I even drilled a little on the insert but the stem of the star where it is joining to the star is hitting the insert sleeve before the star tip is below or totally flush with the insert.
There is no clear blocking.
I guess this is by design because there is no way it can be flush without some rework of the star or insert.
Its just that if it is not totally flush the ball will jump slightly instead of rolling over the star without going airborne a millimeter or so.
Measure how high the old one protrudes above the insert.
Sand down a new star that amount.
Replace old star with lower profile new one. (cut the center rod off the old one, don't try to reuse it.)
Quoted from kiario:Hi, my problem is not that the star is stuck in the insert when pressed down but instead that it is not exactly flush with the insert/ playfield when it is pressed down.
I just rechecked again and I even drilled a little on the insert but the stem of the star where it is joining to the star is hitting the insert sleeve before the star tip is below or totally flush with the insert.
There is no clear blocking.
I guess this is by design because there is no way it can be flush without some rework of the star or insert.
Its just that if it is not totally flush the ball will jump slightly instead of rolling over the star without going airborne a millimeter or so.
That is definitely not right.
Quoted from vid1900:Measure how high the old one protrudes above the insert.
Sand down a new star that amount.
Replace old star with lower profile new one. (cut the center rod off the old one, don't try to reuse it.)
Good idea. Have to remove them again. I think have have fitted and removed them like 10 times now for this issue. Getting good at it 
The old original star has the same measurements as the new one so the issue must have been there from the beginning.
Now, the amount it protrudes is not much maybe 0.5 - 1 mm. I guess it does not matter really since the ball is jumping lot of time anyway.
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