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Star Gazer Rising!

By Fytr

7 years ago


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#7 7 years ago

Clean that corrosion all the way to the left side. From the pics, the green mask has bubbles under it. There is a thread on using toilet bowl cleaner to get rid of the corrosion.

#10 7 years ago

I tried the toilet bowl cleaner trick tonight and it works well, scrape of the green mask first with a wire brush.
Control lamps = Check the lamp board for voltage at test points, rectifier J1-7 and J3-6.

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#11 7 years ago

The wire in the housing of J3-12 should be re-done on the rectifier.

#13 7 years ago
Quoted from Fytr:

2. Left flipper seems okay, but pressing the right flipper button instantly shuts the game down, with no flipper movement. After rebooting I only get 6 dings from the AllTek and nothing but GI. I assume the fuse is toast, haven't had a chance to look. Bought a circuit breaker from Digikey and will craft a fuse mount for it before investigating further.

The wire in the housing of J3-12 should be re-done on the rectifier. 43v for flippers

#17 7 years ago
Quoted from Fytr:

Hi, can you clarify what you mean by "redone"? I assume you mean re-pinned?
Merry xmas, btw!

Correct and while your at it take a look at the rest of the wires and see if they need the same. J3 -1&2 could go in separate housings.

#21 7 years ago
Quoted from Fytr:

Okay, further inspection of the flipper coil shows that neither appears to be wired correctly.
I've redone them to match this diagram from Vids flipper rebuild guide thread.

Now I have 43v at each coil lug and the F4 fuse blows as soon as the flipper button is pressed.
On a brighter note, I've updated the SDB with new capacitors, and removed a failed transistor for the knocker coil. I also implemented the best practice improvements noted in the pinwiki for this board.

I also received my new molex crimper today and used it to separate out of the ground wires that had been doubled up on J3 on the rectifier board, and replace a couple of other pins that were not 100%. I had originally doubled up the ground wires as I didn't have enough .156" pins for all of them on hand - a temporary solution to try to get the game playing while I waited for parts to arrive.

Great news on the pins, rectifier and SDB. Keep up the good work.

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#42 7 years ago

#4, razor blade
#5, replace Q13 with a MPS-A42

#54 7 years ago
Quoted from Fytr:

Thanks! I haven't done a lot of board troubleshooting (been lucky that way) but am trying to learn as much as I can now.
Looking at the schematics I see that Q13 drives the top-line segment of the display. What I don't understand is why only the Player 3 display is affected? If Q13 was failing wouldn't it affect all the displays?

Q13 on the #3 display. Each display has it's on own Q13

#58 7 years ago
Quoted from Fytr:

Looking at the schematics again (I'm using Seawitch ones none for Star Gazer) it would be Q8 as it's a 7-digit display, not 6 (Q13 would be for six).?
In any case, looking in the backbox I found this...

Once I re-pinned that broken wire the top segments on Player 3 started showing up.

Seawitch does say Q8, I was working of an Elektra manual....should have know better!

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#65 7 years ago

For the chips get them from Dave Astill in Ontario https://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/astill
Get some ROM's too while your at it with Freeplay and Oliver's changes (http://www.pinball4you.ch/okaegi/pro_soft.html)
He might even have the regulator

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