Star Trek LE owner here and I think the code is great. My machine will never leave my collection.

Yup. Great code on the game. Awesome sound. Fun Dots. Insane light show. It's a great pin.

The code has really come a long way. There are still a few bugs here and there, but nothing major. It's a very fun game!

Even better with the game music swap out with the soundtrack.

Ditto.

How does one go about swapping the music to the real movie soundtrack? Love my st premium, and think that the original score from the pin is great.... But the soundtrack from the movie is just awesome.

If there is one thing I can say, it won't be the code that lets you down. I can see the mission structure of it getting tiresome for some people. Its easy to get in a rut by trying to progress through the game the exact same way every time.

I intentionally mix it up with the modes after catching myself doing that.

Or don't move to the next mode until you've completed all three levels.

Star Trek is SAM

why do you have to have a LE? Going premium is he same game and you have plenty of time to find one and play one just like you did with ST. That way you can get SW with no regrets assuming you like it.

ST code has a few bugs but overall good. I'm a decent player and still have not got to the 2nd wizard mode. Level1 missions are easy because they are timer based. Level2 and 3 missions require you to make specific shots and some have timers. Completing all those missions requires a lot of shots and not easy. Like the others said, it's still fun to play the missions in different ways and go for different scoring opportunities. Medals add a lot of fun and can really pay off in points. I really like the away team alternative modes and vengeance modes. Hitting certain combos like the left orbit to warp is extremely satisfying. I've had my pro for over a year. Not sure it is a keeper but not selling it anytime soon. Great game for all types of players.

I have owned ST pro for 18 months and still love the game, lights, music, call outs etc, I only wish I could play better.

I have only gotten to the first wizard mode, not even close to getting to the second let alone the third.

The code is solid - but it took forever to get there.
I wouldn't wait on an un-announced Star Wars machine - as a lot can happen if it's even a "fact".

I'd like to say you'd get your cash back if you needed to sell it; but capt kirk has a STLE forsale for more than a month... and it doesn't appear to be moving. :S

I personally don't care; because like others have said.... my STLE is here to stay.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-star-trek-all-music-replaced-with-music-from-movie-video

I would buy a Star Trek premium over an unknown Star Wars machine.

Reason why I say that, is because Star Trek is a known entity with pretty much complete code.

We don't know yet how star wars will be.

No reason an LCD will raise the price. We've already been paying for all the R&D and new in-house animators over the past few years. The screen itself will cost Stern less than DMDs. The artists are already being paid. Use of actual movie footage will mean less custom art for the artists to animate. I predict zero price hike due to display. Remember, we already have JJP selling widebody games with a 27 inch screen for $8500...Stern will have a smaller screen, probably with less content...no friggin' way their games will be $9-10k.

great machine, I have the LE - may never sell it...

For a long time I thought ST code was its Achillies heel and I didn't play it much and I listed my STLE for sale, but as GB was announced my pending sale fell through and I decided to keep it. Well boy I'm really loving the pin now. I've gotten better and gotten farther into the code and the more I play it the more I like it.

I think it's got a lot of facets with both the medals and the Galact Away Team to shake up the modes. Each mode can be attacked for more points and more medals which help later down the road as well.

It's not on the level of Met code but it's quite good IMO

Star Trek is a great machine... Have a premium and love the game.... Different ways to play and the flow is great for combos. I love hitting the warp ramp over and over... Been able to get 5 in a row once I adjusted the ramp. May never leave the lineup.

Just a few more points, the code is deep and wide, I don't expect to see all the modes in one game ever, but I'm enjoying playing different segments. And you can change up your strategy.

I won't say it's as good as my other deep gsme Tspp but I'm having a lot more fun as I get deeper. The level 1 modes are so-so but adding the GAT modes and shooting for more medals adds a lot to level 1. The higher modes are better/harder do that's good.

Not sure I like the two MB modes that much but Klingon Multiball is sure fun with the laser and black out mod.

Love the color changing inserts on the LE/premium.

I think there's a breaking point when it comes to mainstream releases. 9k-10k NIB pins just won't sell, IMO. Anyway - I doubt I'll be buying any more NIB post GB...can't think of any themes that haven't been done that would make me bite. So - for your sake, I hope you don't get price boned on future games.

Couldn't agree more. As much as I love Aerosmith, I don't love them enough to pay $8k for an LE. Star Wars at $8-$9k, I'll go in for the LE, cause it's Star Wars. Outside of that, there aren't any more dream themes left (at least for me).

ST is a really fun game. No buyers remorse here either.

As the ST code went through three versions for me, the games have been more enjoyable and challenging. The game already had great flow and besides, who doesn't like shooting the Vengence ship?

Loooks like they have pros and premiums on the line now..... Went with the pro myself. GREAT GAME

With regard to finality, there is supposed to be at least one more (probably final) update. However, don't expect it soon.

What's the "five year mission"?

Level 3 wizard mode for getting through and completing all 18 modes. Kobiyashi Maru is Level 1 (First 6 modes), and Enterprise Amok is Level 2 (First 12 modes).

The 5yr mission is the time it'll take stern to release that final code.

Thanks. I'm actually familiar with what it is, but was just being sarcastic given the OP's question of whether it was difficult to get to.

FWIW, I've personally found it to be very difficult (as in yet to be gotten close to after many many games played).

I've never gotten close to Five Year Mission, and only ever reach Enterprise Amok once.

I love me some ST! Code is great and the game is a blast especially with upgraded speakers and volume turned up.

In the 2+ years that I owned it, I never got to 5 Year Mission but was 1 mission away once. It's one of those games that getting 5 Year Mission is tough! Enterprise amok is really tough to get to also, but it's possible. Kobayashi is the real achievable mini wizard mode and its fun trying to get as many medals as you can before starting it.

You're going to be waiting a long time if you go for a star wars. I'd pick up ST now then wait and see when Star wars is released and even wait a few months after its release before deciding to sell ST and get star wars.

I miss my STLE that's for sure. And STLE is one of, if not the best LE all around compared to its other versions.

I think that's cause he's selling a premium, not an LE, and trying to get close to an LE price for it with one price drop of $100. He's in no rush to sell obviously.

It can't help that Stern is now (apparently expectedly) making ST Premiums again either.

Even with a new run, I bet there will still be less ST premiums out there than LE's. They made more STLE's than any other LE before or since (800).

Isn't this something like the 4th or 5th run? You have to figure the minimum would be 150 or so to make it worth their while, and presumably earlier runs of Premiums were larger?

Also I'm guessing these will sell out fairly quickly, both due to the increasing popularity of the title, and the fact that the new film drops in July. The rebooted franchise has done exceptionally well at the box office, and I'd expect them to make more machines after this run, unless the license is expiring.

Hooray for the new run of premiums! Can someone hook me up with the alternate audio package so I'm ready to go when mine arrives in a month?

Drawback? Like what? There will never be a ST on Spike so it is what it is.

No, I'm glad it's SAM, tons of machines on SAM. Spike is already on it's way out after just a few machines. (Disclaimer, new MPU may still be very Spikey though)

One further thing ... I kind of wonder if the 'final' code update will include any new stuff from the 3rd film in the franchise. They're obviously not going to do another completely different Star Trek machine so soon for the 3rd and 4th films, and if they're keeping the license it might make sense.

I just don't foresee any kind of game-changing code update coming for ST. Perhaps a bug fix here or there...but that's about it. The game and it's intended code are solid and final.

That will never happen. It has never happened in the past (Pirates, Iron Man, Avengers). There's no benefit for Stern to rewrite an old game with new content. The game is the game with the content it was designed around....the end. Amy code updates to an old game will be bug fixes or enhancements the programmer wanted.

SAMs have been working well for 10 years. My first SAM game was FGY in '07 and it's never needed one repair. As far as I remember, any repairs I've had to Simon a SAM game was something non-SAM related like a diode or wire coming loose.

Just be sure to check all the vacuum tubes each month and you should be fine.

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I don't own one, but we play one in leagues each week, so I have hundreds of games on it. I would definitely recommend it and have no problems with the state of the code. The last update really added some cool stuff.

I honestly have no idea. It was pure speculation on my part. Have they really done that many runs of premiums?