Scared Stiff
Bally, 1996Trying to get this SS to work correctly for Leaper/Frog #3. It registers fine using the switch test using my finger. A slow ball will also register the hit. A regular "fast" hit from the flipper does not register. I have replaced the switch and get exactly the same results. The metal tab that pops up the frog looks the same as the other ones. Any ideas?
Mine does the same but it’s on leaper #2. I have not replaced the switch and assembly yet but it’s sounds like you did and it didn’t help. I’d be curious to know a solution as well.
I have the same but with all three leapers. Slow or normally fast hits always registers, fast hits is more or less random if they register or not. Work flawlessly in switch test manually pressing them.
It's annoying when you have the leaper mania mode or what's it called and hits are ignored. Also make the game feel wonky when the frog goes up in the air but no audible callout.
Quoted from pins4u:I'm unsure what an "SS Leaper frog" is but if it's a switch in an SS era machine then try putting a small cap across the switch - 0.05~0.1 should do the trick.
Is that to prolong the switch pulse so the cpu will have time to recognize the hit?
We talking about 50 to 100uF here?
Quoted from pins4u:I'm unsure what an "SS Leaper frog" is but if it's a switch in an SS era machine then try putting a small cap across the switch - 0.05~0.1 should do the trick.
This was my thought as well. I’m not sure about this era Bally’s, but Bally’s from the 80s all had caps on the stand up targets and other potential troublesome switches to make sure fast hits would register. Connect one leg on the lug downstream of the diode and the other leg on the other lug on the opposite side of the switch.
Quoted from gripwhip:Something like this?
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Hard to see the placement from your pic, but yes that type of cap.
Usually switch caps don't work on WMS switch matrices, but I haven't tried it personally on WPC switches - the earlier games (system 7) it causes the switch to 'repeat'.
Well I tried to increase the gap, no luck. Made it worse in the sense light hits to it do not register. Tried less gap. I guess too close. It then stayed close. So I am back to where I started. I just wonder if I somehow adjusted the metal flap in front of the switch that makes the frog jump, but not sure what to do.
Yes, a ceramic disc cap of about 0.1uf - it is a non polarised cap so can be soldered on in either direction.
The one in that pic is 503 = 0.05uf (same as the nominal 0.047)
I don't see how it could harm anything and it just might help?
Quoted from pins4u:Yes, a ceramic disc cap of about 0.1uf - it is a non polarised cap so can be soldered on in either direction.
The one in that pic is 503 = 0.05uf (same as the nominal 0.047)
I don't see how it could harm anything and it just might help?
I am going to order one. I don't have any. Tell me again which legs of the switch to connect it. The leg with no diode and the positive or negative side of the leg with diode?
I am also going to try to add a small piece of foam between the metal tab and switch to see if that slows things down enough for it to register.
Quoted from gripwhip:Trying to get this SS to work correctly for Leaper/Frog #3. It registers fine using the switch test using my finger. A slow ball will also register the hit. A regular "fast" hit from the flipper does not register. I have replaced the switch and get exactly the same results. The metal tab that pops up the frog looks the same as the other ones. Any ideas?
What game Rom are you running? 1.5 Fixed bad switch logic on Leaper targets.
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