Good luck to them. I'm sure they will sell out quickly regardless. I've played it, I enjoyed it, but every manufacturer thinking every game needs to push 10k is starting to look like fleecing. Maybe more than 250 would have allowed it to be cheaper (and maybe the small #'s is a big part of the reason it is so expensive).

I guess they want to get it while they can, and I'll sit on the sidelines like I did for many years. It's weird as I thought competition would drive prices lower or at least steady, and there just seems to be no ceiling.

I keep seeing people say this, but why would you? Nothing physically changed about the pf which is the only part that matters.

I think they will sell. Pinball is still crazy. It's just saddening for those of us who juggle costs and worth. One thing to keep in mind though on the flip side of the Spooky hate is that Stern does have the benefit of costs of scale.

On the plus side, if none are going to distros, then there won't be any of that early 'sold out in an hour!' talk.

This is pinball...has any negative news stopped people from buying? For every one person who is mad, there are 2 waiting to take their place.

Now...could something eventually happen like the movement in the graphics card area? Maybe, but who knows when that will be..and at that point everyone's 15k machines will be worth much less anyway.

I mean, seriously?

Charlie or someone spoke up in the other thread that said it is licensed to Scott, so they paid him something.

I'm not really clear why they even call it 2.0. Why not just TNA BSE? Name fits, and that's basically what it is. When 2.0 kept getting thrown around I thought it was going to be a reimagining.

Many missed the nice boat on Alien though. $7777 for an SV is the steal of the last 5 years, even if it has issues.

CCR is a shite game compared to Alien. But to each their own.

I would actually be down for this. You would learn quite a bit about the process and how it works (if you didn't already).

I mean no conversation is complete without the doomsayers.

And then hid it in your lineup lol. I never understand this mentality.

I'm sure it is stressful, and they've been very good sports about it all.

That's the risk for all..and I don't think you've been paying attention. All the companies require a down payment and usually non refundable and then you have to wait forever to get the game (except in many cases with Stern but in the last year that's even been a problem). You aren't telling anyone anything they don't already know.

This is a very narrow minded mindset, and probably too much money and forget to look at other peoples perspectives. 2-3k is a major difference, and many people forget that. Perceived value is only part of the equation.

The people complaining though are generally a small percent of the actual numbers here.

Spooky cab art material(?) in general is great. I honestly don't think you can get a real good feel from a photo the difference between butter and normal.

You mean fake sold out..like the other titles? Calling around to different distros trying to find a game is annoying. Being able to just go to the website and know is far simpler. Dividing 250 games up would have just annoyed people up more because there wouldn't have been many at each.

If nothing else, I'd like to thank Spooky for not running away after the blowback. People get worked up and I'm sure you already knew the price was going to raise some eyebrows. I like having them here interacting, but I know it can be nerve wracking sometimes.

I was literally the first person to type this here and Spooky corrected me quickly. They did pay Scott a license to re-run these. The key is this is a niche non mainstream license that everyone outside of people tracking the inside of pinball would not know about. No, we don't know how much he got, but hopefully it was a nice payout.