This is potentially me. I was looking forward to getting a TNA but the price was a bit of a shock. The whole fang club thing pisses me off so I won’t sign up. Looks like it’s a two week wait so I’m hoping I’m just over the excitement by then. Seems needlessly long to have a two week exclusive period.

I don't know if they ever actually enforced that. It looked like could buy it the day it came out, unless they check for your fant membership at the very end...

Just like the last time the used pinball market crashed , right?? Remind me when that was?

my own one-euro story

I absolutely fell in love with that game, which I only had a chance to play for real (=without lining up for hours until I could play just one game) earlier this year in march.
- action packed and loaded with adrenalin
- simple and addictive rules
- 80s style, single level playfield, without those loads of intertwined ramps that look the same on all modern games
- a pop bumper that really contributes to the game play, and not hidden in a secluded corner just below those perennial rollovers
- plays are fast, and don't last forever
- WOW soundtrack (I bought it straight from Scott Daniesi the day after I came back from the expo)
- cool artwork, not yet another-angry-looking-superhero[es]
however:
- little pricey, although they don't make as much runs as Stern, so can probably not compete in terms of mfg costs (my guess)
- how many system80/80A would I have to sell to purchase one TNA..
- my WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) for that particular game is very low (she loves playing all kind of pinballs, EM/early SS and modern games, but does not understand why I like this one)

so I was hoping that TNA would re-run, but I'm most likely "out" for the above 3 reasons

nevertheless, congratulations Scott for this rerun! I wish you huge success ahead!

I remember it very well, lots of people lost a ton of money early 2000's. Biggest pinball company went under then too.
Bought a new in box cirqus voltaire for $1700!

Limited to 10 per customer.

So… consider that we are lucky in a hobby where the Buyers cost can be sold in the future for little depreciation!!

Other gaming hobbies like console, PC, hand held all tank after buying. Good luck selling your collection for close to 50% 2-4 years down the road.

You buy to play and luckily you can get majority of your funds back. If not MSRP, then damn close to it.

This is not an investment hobby.

Seriously!! Wow.. better hold some cash on the side for whenever this hits!!!

Wow!! My mind is blown.

Just to throw a little shade on the "$9k is too much for this pin": I operate with the thought that - I pretty much know how much $$ I have (probably never enough) but I have little idea as to how much TIME I have before me on this earth (certainly NOT enough). So, for those not struggling to provide 3 square meals on the table and save a little $ for retirement, I say - maybe we shouldn't be banking on collecting pinball. After 48 years collecting I'm at "what am I waiting for?!"

Everyone has their own set of concerns, constraints and priorities: So be true to your path.

I know, right. Only $1700.
Definitely! Got my eye on some beach property too. Sold my place in Florida last year.. Bought it in 2010 right after the housing market crash in 08. Did fantastic! Funds are ready, just have to be patient.

...but what'll you buy with the remaining $3k?

my point exactly

Spooky enforces it. Until they open TNA sales to non-Fang Club members, you can't checkout on an online game purchase unless you've paid to join the club.

I doubt there are many people who want this game at 9K and aren’t willing to buy the membership. Maybe a couple, but I feel like if you are hardcore enough to be interested in TNA you’d pay the extra 50 bucks. This game isn’t getting random casuals like a TS4 and Halloween theme.

If it does by some miracle, they will make more more until it does drop.

Well to be fair, if you don't intend on switching it out for 10 years it probably doesn't matter much like a car.

CJ is great.

My friend has a Cactus Jack's, we love to play it, it's a riot. It's to bad we don't live in an era where more OG themes are made.

I'm sure that you're correct.

The fact that Spooky is essentially charging an additional fee to purchase a game that hasn't been an immediate sell-out (like their recent prior games) makes it feel even more like a money grab though.

I bought 3 Spooky games NIB direct from them and will not join the Fang Club. Doesn’t apply here though as I still have TNA #14 with all the good stuff added.

Your current membership will get you early access to their next game too as long as it falls within your 12 month subscription.

Wow! I have to pay to have the privilege to over pay for a product. Sweeeet!

Some people look forward to the swag that you get with the membership fee. It's not $45 worth of stuff but you do get something for your money and shipping is included, looking forward to the mug this year.

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I am not into the extras. Wouldn’t use them and don’t really have a place for them. Would rather just pay $50 more for the game if they need the money. I realize we are in the age of rewards cards and club memberships but I just don’t play that game.

Oh yeah, you get to preorder the next game as soon as it is announced with a non refundable deposit. What could go wrong!

Maybe be they'll change it so there are three membership tiers. For $45 we'll you put a $2k non refundable deposit on mystery game. For $200 we'll tell you what it is first, and for $500 fang super secret spooky platinum members can watch the gameplay video before placing their order!!

I don't think they wanted to go that route because it then would be over 10K. $10,050. for the game... With the margarine .
As Scott would say, Yikes!

Is it dishwasher friendly?

Probably not lol, I hand wash my Ren & Stimpy pint glasses cause my dishwasher ruined my first set.

Not dishwasher safe... oh no, another reason to rag on and on about the terrible state of pinball: Costs, quality, fairness, design, single vs multi level, oh yeah - costs again! Happy Labor Day, hope you're spending it with family, friends and pinball!

Looking forward to it in my game room shelf. I have no issues supporting the fang club. Looking forward to receiving this years.

I am new to owning pinball machines and my wife and I put our deposit on this as our second game. It was high on our list to get and we were very excited to get the chance to buy a NIB TNA. Hope to have years of fun with it!

It’s money better spent then all the coin (stars) you throw Kaneda for his constant vitriol.

Vitriol. I've been hard on Kaneda in the past. I don't really perceive it anymore as negativity but more of reality. Instead of sugar coating things he just points out the logic of situation. What I didn't like about Kaneda was his self shilling and hype. I do like his logical points of view. I did not want to agree with him ever but his last Podcast hit the mark. My wife and I found ourself just in shock of his perfect synopsis of the state of pinball today. Manufactured scarcity though is something I'm not sure can be proven but I find it upsetting to think people do this. It's not a crime and many artist do just this. Got put the meat and taters on the table my friend liked to say after flipping a 1800 dollar car on trade for 5600.

Anyone here who preordered TNA do so to put on location? Just curious how many of these will be out in the wild.

His opinions are based on nothing. He has a long history of destroying pins that he has little to no experience with - it's all nonsense... a bunch of hot air and BS. I stopped listening to him about a year ago and my enjoyment of pinball has notably increased. Do yourself a favor and pick another podcast to listen to. Want people to tell it to you like it is? Listen to Buffalo Bro guys. They tell it to you like it is, and actually have experience playing games. That goes a long way to being able to speak intelligently about code, game play, and the industry in general.

If you want to listen to a moron talk about himself and blow negativity, stick with Chris. Toxic

Mine will be going on location. I believe there are a few others in NE Ohio who bought them as well for the same.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/total-nuclear-annihilation-basic-10-new-release-7k

Might as well start another poll for people who didn't participate in the first one but still bought the game. I'd fit into that category.
Here's what's going on like it or not; all games are going up in price. Stern will has a price increase starting with next week's release. No use playing who would've been in if cheaper thinking you're going to change anything.

so ur out at $7K. cool.

Didn't miss it, just going by everyone on pinside.

You missed where they said they bought it at $9k. So throw in the 100+ people that have already paid $9k that would easily pay less for a game they just paid $9k for.

You going to do the same poll for every new release from every manufacturer with a price increase? Maybe you should do a poll on how much Bond will be and would you be in if it was cheaper.

Not interested in any other game right now... it's not looking good anyways, only like 10 more people would buy it at $7k so it seems like the 91% really just didn't want this game...so far.

Everytime I see your posts I wonder if my kindergartner is typing on here. You sound just like him.

The best part about math is you can spin the numbers anyway you want to support your argument. Example: 91% of the respondents have said they are out or a maybe (note that the maybes now are included in the outs because that supports that argument). Spooky is in trouble!!

But that leaves 9% that are in. But let’s assume that this poll represents more than the 500 or so people. There are 92230 Pinsiders. 9% of those are in so that is 8300 people. Better get busy on those builds and cancel the next 5 releases!

They are selling 250 units. I just checked the other thread. 16 new people would be in on a 7k TNA. 100 (no other reports of how many have sold now but we can use this number). are in at 9k and we can assume they would also be in at 7k (duh):

$9000 x 100 = 900k top line
$7000 x 116 = 812k….

I’m no economist so you decide.

Lmao! I do let my 8 year old boy mess with you guys here and there. He really wanted me to get this game... 'not this time son. Haha!

I'm happy more will be made for any that missed out.

Anyone willing to swap order positions with me? (I'm #66). A good friend of mine is order #1 and we want to perhaps ship our machines together.

I thought also maybe someone might need a bit more time to get the cash together. Send me a DM

Just speak to Spooky, I’m sure they’ll be helpful.

They understand that shipping overseas is pricey.

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Is this game still smaller than regular games ? It just looks smaller compared to 90's games, if you see it next to them.
Does it have a unique playfield size ?

It's almost exactly the same height and width of a early 1980's standard Bally, stern or William's, here is mine in perfect formation with Xenon Paragon Firepower and Space Invaders.

Perfect in form and Function.

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