Really didn’t see this one coming. Let’s go!
https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/scooby-doo-pinball-deep-dive/

Depends on production schedule and backlog. I don’t know if the HW and UM runs are complete, but I do believe they’re roughly halfway through TNA 2.0. So there’s that at a minimum. But fingers crossed this is ready soon-ish (and we get to see gameplay asap).

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With some more thought into the theme, and because it's a hype thread, here's some things I'd love to see...

1) The spinner sound like HAS to be the xylophone sound of Shaggy and Scooby running in place before they dart off.

2) Would probably be the best Spooky theme to date to utilize a lower playfield.

3) A cool ball lock mech could be a hallway with a bunch of doors and they all open to expose a ball at the start of MB.

It's awesome to hear, because it's arguably the hands-down BEST theme you've locked down (R&M was an A+ theme as well, but Scooby Doo has timelessness on its' side, so it's A++).

Just talking to a few people early on since announcement, some of us hope there's still a "standard-ish" version which captures all the magic without paying extra bling at what becomes the "base" level. If it ends up being sort of a "Prem/LE" or "LE/CE" sort of thing, fine. Been there, done that. It may price some out which is a severe bummer. This theme feels like it could keep the lines running for a substantial duration if there was a more affordable version and it had the rules/code to back it up. But hopefully at least the top tier keeps all the bling, while a "lesser" version gives us all the gameplay with a decent savings for those don't want the bling. Just some honest feedback I've received from prospective buyers before launch.

Plus the easter eggs on the gravestones.

I was just trying to dig that up when you posted. I completely forgot there was a Standard HW. Going back to the HW Hype thread, I saw the 3 pics in the gallery for what the BSE and the Collector added... and honestly, the Standard is probably fine. If Scooby-Doo followed the same structuring and had a Standard model at around say $7500, it could launch sales into the stratosphere (pending good layout and code of course).

My play usually warrants a laugh track

Yup. Never been on FB, never will. Hopefully there will be a Twitch or YT video sometime soon for those who don’t wanna be on the Karen network.

What about sculpts/toys?

No - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/spooky-scooby-doo-hype-thread/page/13#post-7277608

Pics and full feature matrix would be clutch right about now.

Same. A few weeks ago I also saw the screenshot of my RMA fully approved. Over 2 years now since I reported my issues. Trying my hardest not to make the same post you're considering. I'm going to follow up one last time once I confirm my game is no longer in production (meaning replacement PFs are probably dried up and not being rerun).

Apron lock, which according to what we're hearing today is on all 3 models. Also 3 magnets. Also the hybrid flipper/diverter is awesome.

Kickass mod. Hook up the knocker coil behind the DBA slot, install a 1-way gate and a hopper filled with treats. You play well, your dog gets a treat too.

Which edition is going to be streamed tomorrow?

For some of us basement gameroom folks, toppers are a no-go due to height. Also, I tend to be a "Pro-level" buyer so for 2 reasons I'm out on the CE. I'd like to see the SE and BSE to see and see the concessions that the BSE makes from the CE and those the SE makes from the BSE.

There seems to be an assload of game at the SE price. I think a lot of us want to ensure it's probably the right call over the BSE.

This is why I'm dying to see the SE. Looking at the feature matrix (ignoring bling which is nice, but not necessary) things missing on the PF seem to include...

- The mine cart sculpt (there are some similar-enough ones on eBay)
- Black Knight sculpt (again eBay, just need to saw one in half... which someone will do here and charge $200 for the 5min of labor)
- Mine Entrance and Airfield signs (someone will 3D print those and charge up the butt for those)
- Charlie the Robot Sculpt (hard to find online)
- Target decals (there's only a handful and someone will make aftermarket ones).

So with some eBay shopping and the mod community, what you see under the glass looks like it may ONLY differ in 1 sculpt and the wireform colors, and that's making the SE look very attractive if that's the major difference after a few light mods.

I never argued a SE would be more valuable. I haven't even discussed which model would be more rare. That was other people. And yes, I play my games, not look at them while they're off, so $2K for bling of any kind isn't my cup of tea. If the SE has full gameplay under the glass, and I can even maybe buy 1-2 mods for things I wish were there, that's much more appealing to me.

None of which change what hits the ball or where the ball goes.

There's a difference between a few 3 second clips spliced into a trailer video and seeing multiple games streamed on it. If I can't play it before I'm asked to put down money, I want to either view it fully functioning, or maybe even watch a review video from someone impartial who has experienced it for a sizeable duration.

Had to watch a review video before putting a small deposit on a mountain bike 2 weeks ago, and once built I got to put my hands on it at least prior to buying. People test drive cars (cargument!) and there's countless review websites for whatever model you're buying. I have a (refundable) deposit on the electric Silverado and I'll fully know that thing inside and out before they see another cent of mine.

And though the full gameplay videos and Deadflip streams from Stern can take some time, they usually follow the announcement with a few videos - usually two of which showing the Pro and Prem separately and what each includes. That way you're not trying to imagine how the feature matrix translates to playfield.

I was under the impression that we were getting gameplay tomorrow. Still super psyched about this game, but I'm going to need to see real, full video gameplay via a lengthy stream before I commit to what will probably be an SE.

Wasn't Baywatch 6?

Twice now I've seen the mine cart trailing Scooby both on the orange wireform and the pink one. Nothing major, but did they take marketing pics of two different pins?

One thing that's unique to the selling model of limiting games to 1969 but allowing the customers to choose model, is that they have to wait a substantial amount of time before they pull the trigger on unique parts orders.

Sure, with the gameplay being the same across 3 models, get some bare cabinets, PF's, castle walls, and major mechs on order. But what about cabinet decals? If you sell 1969 CE's, you need exactly 0 Mystery Machine decals. Vice versa if everyone goes SE/BSE only.

Now take that and factor in that many sculpts, habitrail coating, side armor, speaker panels, "SD" start buttons, target decals, and even the toppers are totally dependent on the amount of each specific model are ordered. That is a major strain on procurement, and can also impact the bulk savings on certain items. Must be a logistical nightmare for their buyers, and also puts a lot of buying on hold until there's some sort of idea how much of each unique item is ultimately required.

Lol and 800 of those were for sale before their game actually shipped. I want Scooby Doo to kick ass and get my first Spooky… but I can’t roll the dice on $8k (after shipping) on something I can’t even see flip on a stream.

Or you could just have some fun reminiscing about childhood while playing some pinball and solving some mysteries... and then when that's over go over to the couch and pull up the Hub on your phone Not every game needs EHOH boobage to be a good title.

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Adding the TWIP Deep Dive to the first post - https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/scooby-doo-pinball-deep-dive/

Obviously a widebody going "coast to coast" with 7 main shots would yield wider shots than a standard body. What we don't know is what's up with the shooter lane not being all the way to the right (there's some black bar thing between the shooter lane and the cabinet wall), and if that ends up robbing that extra lane width one would expect with a 7-shot widebody layout.

That is nice to see. Some nice flowy horseshoe shots and you have to be quick on the draw to use the bookcase diverter.

I personally still need to see the SE. Just from this one example below (habitrail colors) it seems as if there's conflicting info out there. From the TWIP article, it seems as if all editions are getting the character colored returns. It's listed for "all editions" and isn't called out as an exclusive on the CE features. But then the (official???) feature matrix and the CE sheet makes it seem like it's only on the CE.

It makes me wonder if the SE is missing anything else that isn't clearly defined (Example: Does Scooby pop out of the barrel on the SE?). Without a fully defined list or some pics, the SE package is unclear at the moment.

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It already does. Since those videos, they added a drawbridge plastic over the ramp entrance.

As a matter of fact, no I haven't. Halloween isn't listed on IPDB, nor does the Pinside page for the Standard have any pics, Spooky's website only has cab pics zoomed out, and in the owners club quickly going through the gallery looks like a ton of BSE/CE's. I don't know if I've seen a Standard or where one would go to see pics of the Standard's PF.

If you slow down the gameplay video at the start of the Mystery Machine MB, the balls are almost appearing out of nowhere behind the van, coming across a little green ramp, and dropping into the right orbit/horseshoe. Where are the balls actually locked and how do the balls avoid the horseshoe (jump ramp, small VUK inside the van, gobble hole)?

I was under the impression that the deposit isn't transferable to other games. Other people who want to take responsibility for the remainder of payment and accept shipping, I thought was ok. Am I wrong?

Question - for those who are not Fang Club members, can we buy direct from Spooky, and if so at what time is it possible?

Good point.

Spooky - Please don't ever make a Taylor Swift pinball machine.

Yeah I just found out the hard way that the $1000 SE deposit ended up as $1040.

But hey, at least it went through. It wouldn't be very OP of me to start the hype thread and not order the game.

This will be my first Spooky! I've been waiting for this theme forever. Hanna-Barbera cartoons were always special to me, SD being one of my favorites. Though Laff-A-Lympics would've been my first choice personally, I also realize Scooby Doo is THE theme that needed to be done and felt that way for years.

Now I just got to wait it out. And if Spooky finishes the BSE run and has left over BSE parts, they're more than free to put them in my SE build!

Another good review for PinballStar...

I emailed Joe at 11:05am just to ask if he had any SE spots available. At 11:07am I got a reply with full ordering information and links for all 3 trim level deposits with the line "When we are sold out of a particular model you will not be able to purchase - the link will not work. Try another."

That was brilliant for him to set up that way. Instead of him having to have deal with dozens/hundreds of inquiries at once, he just capped the paypal transactions. Because the SE link worked, I knew I had nabbed an SE spot. Easy peasy.

The right-most shot is the right "orbit" (right horseshoe). Below that there's a 2nd slingshot on the right side. Whether you have to aim for this, or if it's just for pure chaos is unknown at the moment.

Damn, lots of new posts since I last checked in. I ended up taking a shot every time someone asked the same question about the butter cabinets and put myself in a coma for 2 days.

In the mid-90s, when I was like 11-12 my parents really pissed me off going into King's Dominion. Yelling fight right at the turnstyles. Then we go in and Fred Flintstone was right there and ran up trying to give me a hug.

Not having one iota of that I loaded up the best right hand I could deliver to his gut. Felt great. Then, as someone who never gets motion sickness, got the worst case of it on the first ride (Days of Thunder). I've had better starts to theme park days. Overall good park though. The Hurler had just opened and it kicked ass!

To this day if my sister's family and ours go to a theme park, she holds me back when we walk in for the cast member's safety. And if KD's Fred is a member here - I owe you a beer sometime.

Lol I just want a good PF. If you can get the artwork all around, kickass!!! Do what the other's can't... yet they once could somehow do.

But if there's even 1% of a risk of bubbling/pooling/chipping, that could be resolved by moving the art off the posts and creating a small ring, by all means get this right. I don't wanna be a JJP GnR buyer who has to go to Home Depot or Amazon to buy a tiny flat iron.

Ditto. I also have some figure mods for the SE already on order and sat down with a friend today to see what it would take to 3D print the airfield and mine signs.

It’s nice to know I have some sculpts already figured out… but I’d also like to see the total SE package in pics… and more gameplay for sure.

The code talk also reminds me that I still kinda want someone to make a Carmen Sandiego pin with Rockapella callouts.

Advantage of ordering one of like 2 total reported SE’s. Basically locked myself into a build number > 1966.

How do I make something a key post???

Both incorrect I believe. The $200 charge is just if you want to transfer to someone else. If you try to flip a PinballStar deposit, they can boot you and refund your money.

The hard part is getting to that level. Some I know have had 15-20 pin collections for well over a decade so now all those have gone up in value it's like 1-out-1-in and every new pin is basically a wash.

When I got into buying like 8 years ago NIB Pros were like $4500, and I could really only afford $3K max. Then they were $5K and I could only afford like $3500 max. NIB's were always just out of reach. Thankfully fixing up some dirty and busted games helped grow the inventory and capital over time. But I was always jealous of those who were in the hobby before it took off. I'm finally at capacity and now am upgrading those spots with each game I get, but damn do I still wish I had that freedom to just dump a game and get basically a NIB or A-tier for no additional funds.

Let’s not say things we can’t take back.

I always thought the sound on Spookys were above-average to great. R&M is real clear and TNA has always been awesome (I don’t know if TNA came with a different speaker package or not). Even RZ sounded good (and I hate that pin). I played my first HW the other day and it reminded me of R&M very clear. Meanwhile that has been a sore spot of some of my recent Sterns. Love playing them. Just wish the speakers weren’t made from paper mache.

Kind of bullshit my GMC truck doesn’t allow me to preload a bunch of (probably-pirated) music so I can play whatever I want, and also fuck with the ECU so I can get the performance I think I deserve… but I still want my warranty!

Mine came in yesterday. Completes my mod buying before my game arrives in like a year and a half. Also got a new BK mine cart with what may end up being a mine entrance sign w/lenticular effect and also a Black Knight.

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Everything in that pic was from eBay.

Thanks for the update Joe, and hope things are getting better. I just saw that I'm #1920.

Similar to your email I just received, I once bragged to my family that I dodged COVID for 2.5 years, and then the next week I was in emergency care as it got to me and kicked my ass. Certainly more than "just another cold".

In your particular example, less is MORE.

Can’t come soon enough. Also BSE/SE reveal would be choice right about now.

As Marge once said to Homer after deep frying his shirt - "I didn't say you couldn't, I said you shouldn't!".

Current look at those who love to coil count...
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A bit. And how did that one spool of pink wire get in the mix with all that blue??? These are the questions that need answers!

If you want the top tier, blinged out version of the game and live in a state with sales tax, yes.

For me, I'm paying $7769 plus shipping (no sales tax in NH) for the SE, and for just $769 more than a Stern Pro, I could come with an equally long list as SpookyLuke of gameplay features the SE has over a Stern Pro (upper PF, 4 flippers, 3 magnets, 2 sets of inline drop banks, cool physical ball locks, 3 slings, unique upper flipper, drop target between lower flippers, a few pretty decent sculpts, enough wireforms to make Capcom Airborne slowly lower its' sunglasses...etc.). It's only $9,769 if you want a ton of extra add-ons on top of an already loaded 2-level widebody.

Good, cuz I ain’t letting him play mine.

Have you been to a pinball trade show? You may have crossed off 90% of players with that condition

That's sweet! I have a pretty similar home office setup, but I can't fit a pin in there. I did set up a modded original Xbox with a ton of preloaded games so I can play them on my 4th monitor, but I don't do it much. Those games consume too much time.

I'm out of space in my basement gameroom, and b/c it can get cold down there this time of year, I'm going to try my next incoming pin upstairs where my X-mas tree was, maybe 20' from my office. I'll probably get disappointed looks when my family sees it or my son's mother comes down to see her son, but the pins gotta go somewhere!

I want zero. Not only can I do without him, it's not period-correct! I think we keep forgetting that.

Scooby-Doo Where Are You as a show was 6-7 years before Scrappy Doo's debut in a different show. That would be like putting Chris Pratt next to Nedry in JP, or Halle Berry in the cornerstone 007, or hell Forky in a proper Toy Story 1-3 trilogy pin. Just because they're in the lineage later on, doesn't mean they make any sense in early versions of the license.

Bally Escape from the Lost World had part of the ramp on the right, and what looks to be something missing on the left.

This can only mean game play is imminent.

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Indeed. It’s clearly either for drugs, two girlfriends, or one is simply a work phone. Anyone’s guess.

LFG!!!

It was one thing I was absolutely praying for and like a minute into gameplay I was grinning ear to ear.

Added the stream to the first post.

Also… swish!

As #1920 I’m gonna need to ask Spooky to come in on Saturday and also ramp up production to 1000 games/week.

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Down at Universal with the kiddo today. Came across my 2nd Mystery Machine within a few days.

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I’m at Uni Orlando. Nintendo is currently only at Uni Hollywood in the States.

Actually the start button is round on all models. It's only the launch button which comes on the CE as the square "SD" dog tag.

So my game value goes to zero and you impossibly figured out a way to divide by zero?

I’m not on FB or IG or Meta, or any of that. It worked for me.

Woah, games are that close to shipping? Chippy Doo likes what he hears. He also just got an electric blue collar so the nickname fits.

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Case in point, I called someone out in another thread for being a dumb dumb, and he came into this thread and gave my original post its' only downvote. Did I care why? No. Instead it's a public sign to everyone else what a child he is, and that makes me smile.