Fixed that for you.

A Dream will Comes true thanks from France my overseas friends !

It’s not really that sad.

I would think it’s based off 196

Oh that’s what I’m talking about Spooky man I’m excited can’t wait to see something let’s do it Spooky lol.

Here is a hint posted by Spooky a few minutes ago

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They advised of the production limit prior to the orders opening up. July 5th, all info dropped. July 7th, orders opened up.

EDIT: I saw others pointed this out. Wasn't trying to pile on.

Spooky doesn't need any 'vindication' from me - they are the most honest, helpful, passionate, transparent pinball company that's ever existed. They pick licenses that I love and they make fun games.

Fuck ya man
The game is gonna destroy they got this can’t wait

Is it Thursday yet?

I never followed Spooky very closely because I was never very interested in their machines, but I am very interested in Scooby Doo. I did not know the difference between there games levels or their prices. I found a good article on Halloween's games differences and prices at "This Week In Pinball" July 5, 2011, Halloween's Collector's Edition was $8,995, Blood Sucker Edition was $7,995 and Standard Edition was $6,995. The article does not talk about the "butter" cabinet, but it sounds like that was a $1,000 upgrade that gives you cabinet artwork a glossy finish that looks like a playfield. https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/spooky-announces-halloween-pinball-deep-dive-in-depth-overview-of-the-machine-features-rules-and-more/

Could be another design from Charlie, been awhile since his last game. Or might be the game David Van Es had been working on for them

Not even remotely close. Bond on the .58 code (it's shipping at over .7 now) was miles ahead of how my UM arrived.

They sure need vindication in my opinion. Couldn't get crap for Ultraman after waiting a year for the code to get fixed. Still burning trash pile IMO . Just wait you can put down 2000 bucks for your very own non refundable POS. The people at spooky are fine. No slight at them. You can't always hit a home run, or even a single. Both games are just crap which we would of known had we a basic game play video before the sale. FOMO marketing. Some of us been in hobby for along time. So perhaps they will vindicate themselves. Not every game can be great.. They do make great art though. More to pinball than just art. Gameplay is huge and sadly Ultraman / Halloween missed that boat. Since they dropped P-roc its possibly you might end up with a non salvageable brick in 5-10 years. Anyhow... on to the next game.

Go away

I don't believe you. PM me all the pictures today. I won't share them.

I have no doubt the machine and art and audio will all be beautiful. What I want is some confidence the playfield layout and code will be great too. A bad game is bad no matter how pretty it is. Scooby is one of the best themes ever, it deserves to be a highly rated machine. Looking forward to the reveal on Thursday…

I get what you're saying and I don't see the business model changing for the reasons you have stated, as well as others.

I was simply questioning it as the original post i referred to was talking about how FOMO is (hopefully) dying down as it seems the flipper are getting burned more and more. (see Halloween, TS4, Bond, etc)

I think the blood sucker editions seem to be the sweet spot…very curious to see how they are kitted out vs the CE.

Can somebody explain the practical differences between PROC and PINOTAUR?

If PROC is better why switch ?

I'm guessing cost, primarily. I don't know enough about the Pinotaur yet, myself.

Halloween was my fool me once. I gotta see gameplay to get excited.

As far as an end user is concerned, the Pinotaur is one board with all the connectors on it (con: removing it). P3ROC uses boards dedicated to function (lamps/coils/switches), which means there’s more smaller boards. Con price

Repair tech wise, P3ROC is a bit more documented for repairs and some components like coil transistors are easier to replace by the end user. (Neither are that well documented, but Pinotaur essentially isn’t in comparison). Further, P3ROC has more general industry support as it is used by a few companies. So you might have a bit more faith in long term support/availability.

In terms of functionality to a player, you’re not really going to notice any difference.

Tl;dr there are pros and cons, but most won’t notice a difference in terms of functionality.

They said, jump Scooby, it's a shark!

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That water doesn't look realistic.

Really weird how divisive Halloween is, seems people either love it or hate it, but I really do not understand the hate. Sure it's different, but everyone who's played it here thinks it's amazing (me too), and with the new code coming this week it's only going to get better. Quite honestly, because of HW I'm now really super keen on Scooby.

There’s gonna be a lot of games sitting and not selling. 2023 is going to be a shit show. Interest rates, recession, housing, layoffs, the toys will be the first to go. I believe we will start to see pin prices starting to fall in the secondary market. The new market in the pinball companies is gonna be tightening up for them to take your money it’s gonna have to be a really good theme.

My wounds have not healed from the Ultraman burn.

Control over your hardware design is a factor to as your business grows. This also feeds into cost.

When you use a 3rd party for your hardware you get some benefits initially, but you are limited as time goes on and have limited input to the direction/changes/updates you want from your businesses perspective

Also if supply dries up or the 3rd party stops making them/can’t source parts/ceases trading you have a big problem so there’s added risk there to.

Really interested to see what layout they came up with. The assets are all there and solving mysteries tied to mode integration sounds really fun to me. My son loves Scooby Doo. I may be in the minority but I do not care for the vein powder coating feel or look. If I could swap out my CE Halloween for a standard with smooth stainless(or plain black powder) for less money-I would. I am so over FOMO and having to join clubs. Looking forward to flipping this one but going to wait it out this time around and hopefully find a minty standard down the road(if it is fun to play). Am I the only one that does not care for the look and texture of vein powder coat?

I'm already seeing price drops in the secondary market, particularly on the less popular or older titles. I'm also seeing real popular titles sit much longer and very few going for top dollar.

2023 could be rough for people looking to sell at the peak.

Yes, I'm over it. I've had a few now that have shown wear over time. The Hobbit was the nicest one and held up I think because of the clear.

There is something about the powder on the CCr LE....it just has a great feel..maybe because its matte.

I just like the smooth feeling on my palms. I was thinking they would do a cool purple sparkle smooth powder-oh well let the nit picking continue as I wait for reveal with zero fear of missing out.

After last time we totally switched directions on our powdercoat. No longer vein on the CE it's instead a nice smooth high gloss metallic color with the 2 process proper Clearcoat. Good friend of mine has been testing it on his game for about 6 months as well as we have had it on the proto games here for over a year. Been rock solid! Hopefully powder issue days are in the past forever.

That is excellent news-I keep reading old charts of builds from previous page thinking they are for SD. Now my only gripes are mandatory Fang Club, selling direct and pricing a little high(is what it is). Hoping SD is a fantastic game to flip and sells well.

Code will take time. It’s just how it goes. Too many people were really impatient and bailed on Halloween way too early.

Yeah, my Halloween #312 CE has spots where my fingers rest, and it probably has under 400 plays. The powdercoat on there is unfortunate. Good to hear improvements were made.

Fang club is not mandatory, its just to support Spooky and get some bling as a thank you. You can still contact a distributor and order the game like every other game.

I was forced to buy the fake fang club pass to purchase my CE Halloween-still can't get the taste of piss out of my mouth. Sorry but I do not agree with mandatory club membership to buy games. Have things changed since then?

If Spooky announces 1,250 pins or less day 1 sellout on theme alone with their marketing. I know we havn't seen it. I'm not in the market, but thats the way I think this cookie crumbles on theme alone.

I'd argue that changing your board set every game or two isn't a smart move either. Spooky still hasn't said what board set is in this game, even though the rumor is that it's another completely new set of boards for Scooby.

The fang club was originally made to be a fun thing that would be a positive for customers. We obviously don't make money on it by the time we stuff like the custom beer glass made and send out the package of goodies. I don't think we expected going in that it would upset some people. It really doesn't benefit us and if it's not a positive for the customer then no point in it! Maybe in the future we will make a change to the policy. Will have to stay the same for now but I do hear you!

Tell Charlie to not make it mandatory for SD and games going forward-you may be surprised on how many people it has turned off. Is it worth it-I don't think so

BTW-thanks for your kind replies-you sound like a stand up guy

I've enjoyed the Fang Club stuff. The poster is cool and hangs in my hallway. The cool custom plastic display and glass are awesome, too.

Imagine wanting to buy a $10,000 pin and claiming that it’s the measly club membership dues that turned you away in the end. C’mon haha. I like the club membership, it’s cheap…I like to support the company…I like the exclusivity and it’s fun to get a box of cool stuff. I want decoder ring next. That way spooky can send out cyphers to decode for secret messages (game announcements, code updates, clues etc)

If you enjoy it and like the chotskies-more power to you. I am a man of principle and I do not agree with mandatory anything. Choices are good and fake fomo fan clubs do very little for me. I also think they should support their loyal distributor channel and not sell direct-again a principle thing to me.

Ah…You poor thing. So sorry the Fang Club got you so upset. “A man of principle” even you say. So serious!

As a man of principle this must be very difficult for you…I bet you cut the seatbelts out of your car and drive right through every single red light you see haha. Mandatory stop at a right light?!?! Not for me for I am a man of principle and no one is gonna tell me s###it

Aren't you supporting the company when you purchase a game?

This is something I am worried about. How many board sets are they going to have to support over time?