That’s totally false information. If you don’t believe me, ask Spooky.

You are correct, there was no predetermined CE number…but Halloween as a whole was always locked At 1250

Hmm not calling you out because I could be wrong. Halloween was not a preset number of CE’s

I am fat and old so my brain doesn’t remember everything like it use to.

There was a limit of 1250 Halloween machines but those were a combination of all 3 available Halloween models (CE, BSE, SE).

I can't see them lowering the price to sell the remaining (whatever number that is) TNA2.0 machines.

The total number of Halloweens was always set in stone. It was totally up to the buyers to determine how many of those were CE and BSE.

Still too much IMO based on past titles from what I have seen and played, then you get the resale value is shit with spooky, look at all the halloweens on the market now from people just wanting to dump them.

Thanks I remembered something correct the CE number wasn’t set total units was set buyer’s determining how many CE’s were being made of the 1250.

Check your figures. Rick and Morty and TNA have only gone up in pricing.

Halloween and Ultraman will both see rebounding prices as the Code gets completed. Happens for every release.

I was gonna say, this weekend is the first time in forever I've seen an aftermarket R&M listed under 10k (it was by $5 lol). Can't determine resale until we play the game, plain and simple. And that's not just a Spooky thing - the Rush I have listed isn't moving, there are a ton of AIQs sitting on the market, etc. Just have to hang onto it or hope not to take outsized losses.

Outside of Halloween, most of their pins have gone up in price so this is odd. Halloween had alot of blind early adoption and a much large production run so that didn't help. Things will likely calm down on that front. Heck it's amazing how Sterns that distros have been sitting on for long periods of time and weren't big hits with fans, when they went out of production, suddenly shot up in resale value.

But it's also silly how folks seem to be focused on "resale value" over the actual enjoyment of a game.

This is the post I remember and was odd not xxx number on it.

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Your note on the spinner sound is spot on. Not sure if that would get annoying but I always make that noise to my kids when the dog starts to run around lol. Love it

Question:

I have not yet bought a spooky pin. So is it that if I want a better chance of getting a CE...I have to join the $45 Fang Club?

If it weren’t for those meddling kids!

Gimme a ZOINk

Here’s a link to the sound effects

https://soundeffects.fandom.com/wiki/Scooby-Doo!_Mystery_Incorporated?action=edit&section=3

Hi Maverick87. You have to join the fang club to order direct from Spooky I believe. But if you get a membership now it will be good all next year and you may get the extra swag stuff for both years. Otherwise you can purchase from a distributor or purchase someone else's preorder spot when they change their mind. At some point there will be a facebook page for the game where people will start selling spots again just like Halloween.

Depends on how popular it’s going to be…it’s not needed for the new run of TNA, but was for the initial release of Halloween. I think it’s fang members only for first couple weeks. Hard to say how this one will go in this environment and without seeing any images. I don’t think the above poster is correct on distributors during initial window…I purchased Halloween from a distributor day 1 and did have to also have fang membership.

I love Scott by but I don't live the flipping lifestyle, so I don't preorder anything. I would rather wait until there's good gameplay videos and reviews out, especially since IMHO Spooky doesn't have as well established a track record yet. I do like rooting for the little guys, but I'd be more confident if this was coming from JJP or Keith Elwin.

Anyway, I'm excited to watch the full reveal on Thursday and find out more...

Thanks...I don't know if I like this system....But, good for Spooky anyways, nice to have more pins available.

The real decision comes the day of and how many ppl want it. Then you need to decide if you are going to order from distro or Spooky directly. I don't know how Halloween/ULT went, but R&M was crazy.

I'm still on the fence for this game. I realized it would fit well with the themes I have, but still not sold that I want the theme bad enough to order without playing first. Will reserve judgement until after the actual reveal.

I feel that way also. But, I think I'm willing to take a chance on this pin, spooky has improved in time IMO as a non owner just doing my homework. I think it is a great theme..don't let me down!

Following

Still wondering who the designer is…

We will definitely have it at Pizza J! Pretty amped for this one.

I’ve seen that Scooby spots will be non-transferable, just like TNA 2.0.

You couldn’t really be anymore wrong about this. I personally watched a gameplay video before I purchased Halloween aaaaand so did all of the other buyers. “Let’s not forget what happened..” get real dude.

Also HWN is f’n awesome

Let's recap

Spooky announces July 5: https://www.thisweekinpinball.com/spooky-announces-halloween-pinball-deep-dive-in-depth-overview-of-the-machine-features-rules-and-more/ which included this trailer

The game went on sale July 7

The first stream of gameplay was early August

Halloween/Ultraman was sold with barely any information, including some false information like Bowen being a consultant on rules. (That was an outright lie by Spooky)

It would have made more sense back then as it was well discussed by Spooky that there would be 1250 total Halloween pins made but the number of ce or blood suckers edition would totally be determined by buyer preference. Could have been 1250 Blood Suckers and 0 CE pins technically.

Anyhow, I am hyped for Spooky and Scooby. It's a great pinball theme.

Spooky efficiency and number of builds per week has grown over the past year it appears.

I don’t remember how Spooky did the non refundable deposit thing last time other than it was opening up the orders at a certain time and ended up being a shit show with server issues and such.

Nvm, Treybo summarized the time line ^^^

I ended up buying a low 100 spot from someone. CE butter

I know a lot people ended up being pissed off because they didn’t ultimately like Halloween or figured out they were going to lose $$$

I like my Halloween a lot.

Hard to say “it’s the 1st Spooky pin that has ever lost value” which isn’t true, and think Halloween was a one off when you are starting from a MUCH higher price point.

Just like Bond, TS4 etc, you are going to lose $$$ on the secondary market when you go to sell.

Thus, there should be zero FOMO. If we all haven’t learned that lesson by now then there is no hope for us.

All that said, I don’t know how Spooky is going to get away from the “non refundable” deposits?

You don’t want a bunch of looky Lou’s clogging up the pipeline and they need some visibility on what they can expect to build.

However, they will need to allow a longer time frame to allow buyers to evaluate some game play BEFORE $$$ becomes locked, unlike last time.

Bottom line, the FOMO model should be on life support, zero reason to believe you can’t get any game later at the same price or probably cheaper, and that includes JJP, Stern and everybody else

I’ll probably get a Scooby game if it looks good. Just won’t be on a FOMO rush.

Let's hope it's based on the first two original seasons, and none of the later stuff. But then, I'm pretty sure whatever they do, isn't the pinball I'd design around this childhood favorite.

Was a day 1 (refresh at the opening) Rick and Morty Buyer. They sold out in 4 hours and I got my machine a year later.

I passed on Haloween and Ultraman because I didn't care for the theme, but was glad those who wanted the dream theme got one. I actually saw an Ultraman in the wild yesterday and played 2 balls... before it crashed (the computer literally reset in the middle of the game).

My TNA and Rick and Morty were rock solid while I had them. Even took Rick and Morty to a couple of shows without issue. I'm hoping Scooby knocks it our of the park with this one. I'm hoping for a more traditional design with this one. Maybe this is Danesi?

I Hope to have a beautifull machine loaded with beautifull parts as Alice Cooper castle.

Maybe we Can Hope for a mystery mansion

I have an Alice and a rick and Scooby IS my Dream machine, i think and Hope that it will be based on original 70's. That's what suggest the pinball name "scooby-doo, where are you"

Starting with JJP TS4 and afterwards, I tend to agree. The manufacturers have pretty much guaranteed that with their outrageous price hikes.

But it gets us back to somewhat "normal" in this hobby where distribs had every title in stock (even LEs) and people only buy NIB because they plan to keep it long term (or don't mind losing $2k when they sell shortly after buying).

I've never understood the CE/LE announcement with the launch of a game. I really don't understand it now that some are trying to get $13K out of them before anyone has really got to play them.

I would think they would do a 2 tier BSE/Standard or Premium/Pro to start. If the game is a hit or becomes a hit then you can base your CE run on it. Similar to how Adams Family gold went. If the game is a monster, like Godzilla, do a run of 1000 CE/LE's and charge whatever you think the market will bear. If it's an underwhelming game like TS4 or Munsters, then either cut the CE run to a much smaller number or don't do one at all. Focus the capital on improving the code since that seems to be where all the main gripes come from on these newer games.

I guess it doesn't matter to manufacturers as they sell out of their CE/LE's almost immediately but I sure don't see why they wouldn't wait so they could make a true CE/LE while keeping people from feeling like they got burned. I would think this way would also help with eliminating scalpers. Sure, you will have some people pay a premium because they want their premium now but, for the most part, it will surely slow them down.

This doesn't just pertain to Spooky, but the industry as a whole.

My guess is FOMO is still strong with this crowd

This isn't the 90's. Addams was mostly in locations. There was barely a home market. Now it's almost entirely a home market with big spenders and collectors. LE/CE is offered up front, because "get it or its gone" is easy money. The other "lesser" versions are just gravy, if the game is still in demand. If there's no LE/CE at launch...the usual suspects who ONLY buy that type of game are going to sit and wait it out...and people who buy Premiums/Pros will also wait to play first...why would they order a game when there's no FOMO? FOMO sells games and has kept these companies in business during this weird era of home-buyer pinball.

So pumped

James who?
Godzilla what?

I love my spooky games

Cool fucking themes ,layout always different
Art is the best

If this is true...I'll be sitting, then

That’s already been established. Watch the trailer again.

I was just giving an example about why all companies do CE/LE editions. All Spooky games are limited. That’s their biz model. Nothing to worry about if limitedness is important to you.

I'm happy for everyone who is excited for this theme. I cant wait to see it and play it. I'd be in on it more than likely but not after losing $2500 on Ultraman. Some of the reasons ultraman was so terrible (callouts, no code at launch) I imagine will be fixed. My personal opinion on not liking the layout of UM/HWN is too much my own preferences to guess but hopefully the design has more going on. I'm sure it will.

So just like Bond?

I’m just trying to throw out some reason but I’d agree, the mad scramble will probably happen again on some level.

Price gets too high. FOMO somewhat dead. That’s the other side of the coin now for these companies. Demand destruction.

To think that these companies have to rely on FOMO and tricking the buyer is not a winning or sustainable strategy imho

Spooky lost many Customers after the Ultraman and Halloween, think that's when Spooky jumped the Shark.
Hopefully Scooby Do will 'reset' and 'vindicate' the company in the pinball community. Hopefully they start
working on a Merit based marketing campaign vs FOMO marketing scheme. Sadly I'm out.

Personnaly i like how spooky work, standard/BS/CE are just options. You buy the FINISH you want not a false limited edition as JJP or a false LE as stern just because they put a mirrored backglass... They just create a collectible illusion.

Spooky have honest position to say that you buy the pin you want.

say what now?

No kidding. Just got my Ultraman home and also picked up a Maiden this weekend. Need a breather for the wallet, but I'm super interested in this one, too.

I love it when clueless people flounce. It reminds me of my little sister.

Too late. he's gone.

LOL... What?

I don't think we are going to let you down! This game is the most stunning game we have put together. It really is beautiful