More like a half truth!

I mean you said 1750 sold in 4 hours. So..you do the math.

Interesting choices in wording.
I’m not sure what “trust and credibility” and “bad juju” even means, but that’s cool.
Not every pinball machines is going to be as big of hit as the last and on the opposite side of the spectrum some will completely dwarf the last game. It’s no different then what Stern is doing. Personally I think the new Stern Bond is a crappy game that sucks major ass, but that won’t stop me from buying a new Stern in the future.

Doubt it's any different but you can dramatically improve current one by changing the settings

Now That's a legit complaint and a good question

I love hype threads. First I was like Scooby was not a theme for me too ok Scooby is looking kinda cool. Then I show the trailer to my daughter and now she is all in for some Scooby. All the assets and art have just put Scooby on my radar.
With Alien and Scooby at the price they are, it shows you can get a lot for the money and still not have to charge crazy prices.

Distros had bought 1/2…and the others Spooky sold…what am I missing…I could be wrong…I am routinely

Wow. Scooby pin makes Halloween look a decade old.

Come watch us talk Scooby-Doo hype right now at twitch.tv/pinballnetwork

Which is great for them. Buy what you like. Approach each purchase in your own way. It cuts both ways, so allowing that some people will need more information before deciding and others will jump in blind again shouldn't be a revolutionary idea.

100%

Hope so. Just got my TNA and just ordered the updated screen.

I love mine. Not all pins are for everyone…and you can’t discredit me for loving mine…just like I can’t discredit you for not liking it.

So you 100% also had 5 center ramp rejects in a row?

I don't care about the theme.
I am highly unlikely to buy another Spooky after my RM experience.

I will say though, kudos to them for what does look like an engaging and value-packed game.
I hope the shots, code and animation complete the package and make a lot of people happy.

Where the incumbent pinball manufacturers have gone down in value and up in price, Spooky is now the value leader.

I noticed that the “spooky gang” hasn’t been chiming in here lately…hmmm……
Did they get scared ??

Maybe they wanted to get some sleep. I need some. I've spend a heck of a lot of time on this thread today. Need to get some actual work done tomorrow.

Really!?! They were on here within hours…name another company that has been here. Or are you just….

Hey Spooky the trailer was great. Can we expect a gameplay video in the next week?

Just catching up and really disappointed no gameplay tomorrow. They're streaming the game but no gameplay? What? That just screams lack of confidence in the gameplay/code. Simple as that.

Well great first impressions though and I don't have a dog in this race b/c the theme for me is whatever - but man, no gameplay is a bummer. The big question is will it sell out. 1969 is a lot but they sold out of Halloween/UM really quickly and this theme is likely more popular. I wouldn't be surprised if it's out the door within a day or two. Especially this time of year when people are looking to spend. Problem is the game won't be ready in time for Christmas. Note to Spooky - get your new game ready for the holidays. Stern is doing this well with bond. And paging American Pinball - where in the world are you? What a complete miss on their end.

As for whether Spooky is using an updated screen or not - from my experience, that complaint is way over blown. Similar to that dumb hedge mb complaint. I bought a replacement screen (the upgraded one) and when I compared it against my stock Spooky screen WITH dialed in settings, it wasn't a big difference. I wouldn't replace it again is my point. Just make sure you guys are adjusting the contrast on the stock and color settings. Less technically inclined people don't understand this and then complain spooky's screen has washed out colors. Not exactly true.

I‘m really interested in seeing how this fomo/pre-sales hype works this time.

Sorry some misunderstanding on Pinside disappointed you, Spooky never said they were streaming the game just doing a Q/A FB live stream. Sure there will be plenty of chances to buy one after a gameplay video gets done in the future.

I see a lot of talk about the people disappointed in Ultraman were just a bunch of flippers anyway so who cares about them - take my money, Spooky!

I bought it because I loved my R&M despite it being a bit clunky and Ultraman looked interesting with the multiple upper playfields. I thought Bowen would be helping with the rules. The small snippets in the trailers seemed good. I had no intention to flip it - in fact, I still own it, hoping that one day it might live up to expectations.

So, I'm no flipper and I'm definitely still feeling burned by it. And now they're doing the exact same playbook for Scooby with no gameplay prior to orders going live and I'm certainly not going to be Charlie Brown trusting Lucy with the football in this scenario. I expect the game to sell out day one anyway, which is too bad because that gives them no incentive to actually improve. Luke's non-answer to the question smacks of that whole EA "sense of pride and accomplishment" episode that is the most downvoted comment in Reddit history. Not a good look.

Yup, the complaints about ramp rejects are absurd. I made a two second adjustment to the diverter and now I can fore and backhand the R ramp reliably in both diverter positions. Game just needs to be set up with correct pitch and leveled perfectly. Game shoots like a dream …no “bad geometry” blah blah if that were actually the case I wouldn’t be able to do speed runs to ‘Boogeyman’ on this thing. It’s a fantastic game.

Yeah when a company says streaming and it’s a new game that’s definitely setting up expectations that we will see gameplay. They know that too. Learning opp.

The price for the CE should have been listed for $9,691. Makes perfect sense to me

Filming the gameplay vid.

That was my experience on RM also. The OOTB settings were horribly washed out, but after a small amount of adjustment it looked fine.

Yes. Look near the end of the video, there's a shot of the PF with the mystery machine headlights that appear to be on.

Workday ends at 5pm and posting here sure seems like work at times...

lol you've admitted here that you rigged your sanitarium playfield to fix geometry problems, blocking holes and making it much easier. You've also had to adjust your center ramp diverter. My orbits register intermittently due to poorly placed switches (which also occurred on R&M). As it ships- the game definitely has issues.

Not all center ramps on HWN are the same. I played one on location where there were a lot of rejects unless you shot towards the right wall. On mine, I have honestly never had an issue with repeating that shot forehand or backhand. I can pretty reliably get it up there even backhanding a return feed from the inlane lifter on the right. This is at 6.9 pitch and as far as I have found, there is NO flipper strength settings in these games.

Whatever is going on with the center ramp on some games is not a fundamental design issue. I would be in there bending the crap out of things until it worked if I had those issues. I think the ability to chain together multiple pretzel shots on the house mini playfield is critical too. I have heard it's nearly impossible on some games. Halloween does have it's flaws, but these aren't some of them.

All the “show the gameplay live “ “the deposits are a scam” posts ,to me,have like Kanye West pre complete meltdown vibes

It’s like you’ve discovered something ,and your hell bent on getting a answer,and you want to tell everyone about this thing you think will change everything ,but the problem is nobody else really cares and is like what? but YOU think it’s a really big deal

We like Spooky
We’ve bought their games
We like Halloween
We like Scooby
We are having fun

That’s all man calm down

Yeah I don't get it at all - maybe it's my machine who knows but the only rejections I get on the ramps on Halloween are basically when I don't hit the ramp well enough - which is exactly the same as every other game I own, be it Spooky or otherwise.

Honestly I'm a bit shocked at my level of excitement - I mean, I was super, super hyped about Bond, I'm a huge fan of the theme and I know I'm getting a good game with Stern no matter what - but after the reveal I was a bit nonplussed by it, and everything I've seen since hasn't changed my mind. This is the complete polar opposite, I'm not really into the theme, but the game itself looks totally wild, and I'm 100% all in.

I get what you're saying here, but I think the value leader is AP. Oktoberfest is absolutely loaded for $7500, and HW is a lot of fun for <$7k. Next would be CGC. Spooky has jacked their prices a lot recently and now sits somewhere in the middle. Stern really jumped the shark with their $13k Bond LE. And to think they used to be the value leader. Interesting times.

JJP = new leader in shark jumping. A nearly-toyless Toy Story pinball machine at 12k/15k. But includes cake toppers.

Which NIB’s don’t need work? Maybe CGC are a rare exception. But every one of my Stern and JJP games needed work to get them playing correctly. And that’s with our fantastic distributor who opens every game and re tests it before shipping. It’s especially the case with LE’s/first off the line. Jump into the Rush thread and have a look at the issues that need fixing out of the box.

Mix that with Spooky trying some new ideas and left of centre layouts and there will always be something to fine tune out of the box.

I get it man..... people want the underdog. Spooky, American Pinball.... etc. Rudy, Jermey Lin, Kurt Warner, Tim Tebow.....
But honestly, IMO Stern does put out a fairly decent product with really good support. I do think that the machine being a Stern does actually stand for something. Alright, let the downvotes begin....

Fucking. Love. RZ.

So happy I got it. EVERYONE loves it. Only complaint is that it’s a horrible pin for more than 1 player at a time. Have to just let someone go 3-4 games and then switch out.

Who's the distributor for Spooky in Australia? Would like to know the MSRP in AUD

SpookyLuke

So it’s clear there are 7 cases highlighted by the 7 ghost inserts… I’m wondering outside of those 7 ghosts, will you feature other great villains in some ways, like hurry ups or side modes/features?

No case for the creeper, the wolfman (who has a sculpt), red Beard, ghost clown, snow ghost etc.

Would love to see those characters also find their way into the game in fun moments.

There isn't one. Spooky are leaving sales on the table by not sorting it out.

As far as Bond ask buyers of premiums and LE’s when they are getting their game. It’s not buy Christmas. Owner operators got their pro’s. Stern is not doing well with Bond. This has been a bad rollout.

People are being calm and rational, I dunno why you would have an issue with that.

I'm glad you like Spooky. I like Spooky too. It's okay to be critical of things you like. Asking to please see a gameplay video before putting down cash doesn't make someone sound like a Nazi-apologist who just went on a talk show to talk about liking Hitler. Be chill. And pick better metaphors, that's pretty offensive.

You know why people want to see gameplay videos? Because the game looks great and they're excited about it and care and might even be thinking about buying one.

I sent the trailer to my pinball friend, his response was "initial impression, it's one of the best spooky layouts i've seen". We just want to see it flip.

Stern puts out a fantastic product. I think people are really spoiled honestly, and they've forgotten what it was like in the Dark Times for pinball. Or they weren't around for it. For you new folk just google "Austin Power pinball".

But small pinball companies changed the landscape in a lot of ways and Stern has had to alternate between catching up and leading.

Before Keith Elwin I think Stern's biggest problem was they were just too safe. 3 pops, under the top lanes. A lot of very similar layouts. Anyone ever play a World Poker Tour and wonder if Gary demanded it had a tradition shooter rod even with that plunge? I think they didn't want to stray from formula.

Before Metallica they didn't even really try hand drawn art. Now it's almost expected for most titles. But that took being dragged. Zombie Yeti has done all these fantastic art packages for them, but they didn't seek him out, freaking Jpop did. He got the Stern job by going into the depths of the boutique stanky mines.

Where companies like Spooky shine imo is not being afraid to try things. They've taken risks. And in some ways I'm 100% convinced they drag the industry with them. Would Stern have rethemed Sea Witch into the The Beatles without TNA? I dunno. I feel like no. That's Scott, but Spooky made it a reality too.

I'm not saying Ben Heck single handedly created a whole homebrew industry, but ... he kinda did. There were other homebrew games being made at the same time as AMH, none of them went into production. Spooky made that happen when no one else was trying, or those that tried failed, badly (cough cough Predator).

I said this before, but if you look at AMH, practically a one man show title, and then you look at Scooby-Doo, so clearly a killer team effort, Spooky has come a really long way.

if it wasn't for the ridiculous prices this would be a pretty sweet time for pinball.

A lot changes in a few years. Keep in mind:

Rick & Morty: Killer theme (adult humor is always desired in pinball), Scott Danesi coming off his hotness of TNA, only 750 units.

After that, the hype was on Spooky. FOMO & Flippers were salivating. We were in that weird Covid time where pinball demand was through the roof. People gobbled up HW/UM thinking they were getting the next R&M. It didn’t pan out that way for some and there was a lot of negativity and money walked away from.

So - going into Scooby…Spooky hype is lower. The market is a bit softer. Buyers aren’t gobbling up anything & everything. Based on this context - I don’t see the game selling out right away.

Prediction: It sells a decent amount to people who love Scooby & always wanted a Scoob pin. People impressed by the package will bite as well. I could see somewhere between 500-800 selling by this weekend. Then it’s up to the game to prove itself. Word of mouth has to chip away at the negative narrative of HW/UM. (For the record, I think my UM is awesome…but there’s a lot of vocal negative noise out there). If there’s a consistent stream of praise…about the quality, gameplay, code, fun factor etc. - that will sell the rest of the units. If there are similar complains like HW/UM…people will pass & go for whatever comes next from Stern or the others.

I did one of those click-bait reveal pinball videos and I'm now entitled to post it everywhere.

TL;DW: The game looks fantastic and has a lot going on. Spooky widebody, come on, who isn't excitied?!

(it's 45 mintues )

Join the Spooky Fang Club. Buy your game from Spooky direct. Make sure you buy the 240V version. Talk to the guys at Spooky and make sure you get your game on the container to Australia. Usually goes to Sydney or Melbourne and then Bill can do the rest!

Man I’ve been trying to figure out how to get wonka for so long. I know we’re one’s at new but they want 12,000$ for it. Now Scooby is here I’m like crap I can’t afford both it’s killing me.

Pinball. The addiction is real.