Spooky What tradeshows are you planning to hit this year (with or without Scooby)?

Never said it was a personal insult. Try to calm down and go complain somewhere else.

I think the sweet spot is the month after game play release. The code usually only gets better. So you have the max numbers of non refundable deposits, early code, long wait to get a your game, people decide they don't wanna spend the money they committed to. Some UM buyers may chime in why that pin has lost so much value.

The biggest clue for me was Spooky saying there are more names on list then games available. Thus trying to push the FOMO. Not this time for me

Sorry for as what I am positive is a repeated question..been out sick with Covid. Any gameplay announcements?

By end of this month. Go back a page and you'll see where Spooky said "Won't be long now, Hang in There"

Laying around with the flu maybe read the thread?

Ugh, we need some game play! This place is stagnant. Stinky. Poopy

Let me be honest for a moment. You are in a thread with 1000+ owners bragging about playing the market and timing your buy so you get the best deal possible. You are giddy with excitement that you are going to make out better than all of us idiots who paid msrp.

I don’t fault you for what you are trying to do, but maybe ~ just maybe ~ you should be a little more stealth about it?

I couldn’t give two squirts about what the value of Scooby is tomorrow, 6 months or a year from now. I’m excited about the game and look forward to owning it for a long time.

Thank you.

Every time I read his posts I get the impression that he may not be the sharpest tool in the shed?

This takes fandom to the next level. I think you win the dedicated Scooby award!

No worries man I get it and can’t wait to own my Scooby Doo!

The only way a manufacturer will change is through sales and keeping their customers happy. Alot of people got burnt with non refundable deposits and no limited product.

Scooby Doo is round two

Anybody know when the podcast is with dead flip?

No announcement yet.

That's the spirit!

A lot of distribs charge non-refundable deposits for Sterns too - in fact, my distrib required payment in FULL for Bond60 after announcement (and we still haven't seen a gameplay video yet).

There are limits on all Spooky titles - HWN had a 1250 limit and UM had a 500 limit. On UM, even if all 500 of those were CEs, that's still 500 games total which is not many at all!

Some people that were expecting R&M skyrocketing value and didn't necessarily care about the HW/UM themes got burned. But here's the deal - if you knew how much Charlie and family loves both HW/UM themes, you would know that the code on those games isn't even close to finished yet. When the code is finished and people finally get to experience it, the values will return.

But as I said before, I hope most of us are in on Scooby because we love the theme, not because we think there's profit to be made.

That’s odd because they said by the end of the month, but sure they are trying to get it as polished as possible so that’s fine with me

Starting to get excited! Ce #98 belongs to us. Would've gotten a lower # if it weren't for those meddlin kids ...

Still 7 days left counting today. I bet it’s a Friday night or weekend stream.

Same

If they wanted to sell on pure FOMO we would have LE's instead of CE's.. that's what I appreciates about Spooky.

Very excited to see some game play and more dialogue from the crew!!

This guy gets it. Spooky isn't pushing FOMO on Scooby. If so, they wouldn't limit it to 1969 possible CEs. If You really want a limited Scooby get the Standard version.
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My apologies if I am coming across wrong, I just despise the feeling of losing money before I even had my HW. The sales model just seems so flawed to me.

I grew up extremely poor and it is just in me to buy stuff as cheap as possible. I applaud the pinners that can just buy, lose value and don't give a shit. I hope to be there some day.

RM and HWN were both on saturday......

I quite like Spookys sales model. Anyone who wants any particular trim level can order that trim level, be it standard, blood sucker, or collector edition. Until the total run is up of course. This model helps alleviate the FOMO, and best of all, helps take money out of greedy flippers pockets.

Most toys you buy lose value. We've been lucky in this hobby that our pins have held or exceeded their value because so many folks have entered the hobby...basic supply and demand... I would say any time you buy a pin you have to have the expectation that the value could go down. Otherwise you are gambling.

with no disrespect .... why are you buying 8-10k toys ? may not be the hobby for you ! ?

I doubt there are very few that don't give a shit because this is an insignificant purchase for them. I do think there are many including me that look at this as an asset, not an investment. As far as assets go, a pin does better than a boat, car, snowmobile, stereo system, etc. in retained value. The fact that I can sell most of the pins I own for more than I paid is great but I don't look for a return on an investment, because it isn't an investment. Take care of it like your car or boat and maximize what you can get out of it for the next purchase is the best you should hope for.

Oh and play the hell out of it because it is way more fun than a car or a boat!

Correct. Pinball machines are assets not investments. Assets depreciate and you can expect to make SOME of your money back on resale not all and certainly not profit. The quicker people can accept that the happier they’ll be.

Did I just step into the wrong thread?

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Levi will be here soon to make this stop!

What thread on pinside isn't somehow about pricing?

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Yet you've been on Pinside for 1 year and own 18 machines, including the high priced Toy Story 4 CE, Elvira 40th LE, plus many other A-list games. Most of us are looking to buy games at a fair price, and Scooby-Doo is fairly priced compared to recent offerings from the other manufacturers. You, on the other hand, are like the car buyer who wants to make sure that nobody else gets a cheaper price than they do for the same model. This is the reason GM initially created the Saturn division with the same flat pricing for everyone. So people could buy a Saturn knowing that no one else got a better deal on it than they did.

So you want a Scooby-Doo, but you want to wait until you can buy the game at a discount, hoping that people will sell their spot at a loss if video of gameplay looks underwhelming or if some new release (such as BTTF) makes people want to drop Scooby and buy the new game instead. Spooky should have limited it to 750 like R&M. Scooby would have sold out day one and if it is a hit you'd be left looking for one on the used market at a markup.

Got some news.....you are not going to get your money back for this. I have one as well.

Damn, I didn't even notice that.

No offense, but it looks like you're there. Nice collection btw.

Edit: Well, maybe not the "not giving a shit" about losing value part. But you definitely have disposable income, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just sayin'

Cuz I can.

I hope there's a good number of SD or BSE being sold as I think the Mystery Machine cabinet art is way cooler than the CE. Just in case it's a top 10 pin and I want to get one second hand down the road

100% agree way more fun then a boat, maybe not a 700 hp vet though.

When I buy a car I would be bummed if I missed it a future price of 2k less and the same goes for a boat.

I am a giving guy, but lose enjoyment if I over pay for something, just weird in my mind I can't take it. Call me mentally weak I guess.

How many people would own pins if over time there value went to ZERO? Like a Zilla in 10 years being worth zero? I would not buy one at all.

What other games from the past have features on top the apron?

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At the end of the day, any machine is worth EXACTLY what you are willing to pay for it. If it shows up for cheaper it doesn't mean it is suddenly worth less to you.
If the way you place value on material items is based on other's opinions, you will find yourself being sad most of the time.
Be happy you paid what you thought it was worth when you bought it and go play some pinball!
Having a single pinball machine us a luxurious first world problem, so don't bother complaining with your mouth full.

I am not listening b/c I am too busy flipping

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Ok, I'm confused. You've got machines on pallets. You've been debating when to by scooby and seem to be obsessed that they need to sell out for you to get in. And you've got a prior listing of scooby for $1,000. Do you have a game on order? Did you have a game on order? I get the impression you're very interested in playing the "pinball market" and trying to maximize returns of game sales...given your discussions on this thread and your sales history of a delayed NIB godzilla LE for $24k and you've commented on EHOH 40th (available for sale and on a pallet)...but you've commented that you don't have the "disposable" income to just buy a game because it's an awesome theme like all these other high rollers around here...you can only afford a game if it's resale value is higher than when you bought it.

don't worry, I haven't been stalking you. But candidly, your posts have always been so somewhat odd that they've stood out. it's interesting to me and i'm genuinely curious to know if you actually have a game on order right now?

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Then why complain ... consider your fortunate

Flintstones counts, right?

Oh dang we weren't aware of that one! I figured you guys would know some we don't.

To me it counts!

Walking dead had the crossbow.

GnR CE had the coma lock.

Ditto for Austin Powers

The who’s tommy had the blinders

Sorry if I came across as complaining.

Just looking to save some money and buy low.