Game looks awesome - CE for me
Guess I just Joined the Halloween collectors club at 9:06am today. Received the confirmation email with an order # so I’m good to go!
My down payment just cleared for Halloween CE. Got in very quickly when it went on sale so I'm thinking I may have it in a month or two. Exciting times
Quoted from Hayfarmer:
Did you buy direct or thru a distributor?
I went Direct as It was a frantic frenzy that morning and I wanted to make sure I got one. Later I found out my local guy is a spooky Dealer. Oh well...next time.
I know they are doing 50 friends/family/licensee special orders first. I believe they are then doing 50 distros...then 50 direct. I should be in the first 50 direct if my math is right.
Good stuff Hayfarmer - we will now have 3 games shared in our collections! I appreciate you helping me get started with Led Zeppelin when I first joined this fine forum earlier this year. 1 machine turned into 3 awfully quickly!
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
The best Halloween movie is original but the “NBC” version of it. John Carpenter was asked to tweak the movie while filming Halloween 2 so the original could be shown on NBC. NBC aired a water down version of the movie and John Carpenter took that extra footage and released his own version later on. It’s hard to find the NBC version of the film that has the hard core horror scenes plus the extra footage but well worth it. It adds some depth to Loomis and Michael Myers.
The Extended TV version has been released on previous blurays and will also be on the upcoming re-release in 4K UHD disc.
F13 - 2,4,3,1,6. Rest are forgettable (IMO)
Remake is pretty good too.
Halloween - original I and II - pinnacle for me
3- novelty -popcorn flick worth a watch . Tom Atkins is awesome.
4,5+ - awful films - nice to see Loomis though.
Rob zombie 1 is an interesting take - took away the mystery but was more brutal. Not too bad.
Rob Zombie - 2 - strayed from the norm / interesting take. Sub par execution though worth a watch.
New trilogy- got my interest - liked the first one looking forward to pt2 in a couple months.
NOTHING TOUCHES THE ORIGINAL 78’!
Popcorn flic for the masses. Worth a watch for the fun novelty alone. For me, lost interest in Freddy as scary since part 2
There’s something about modern horror films that makes it difficult for me to get into. I think it’s just the overall vibe. I say Halloween 78’ as pinnacle for I just love the softer picture lens, color pallet, outstanding score, no CGI, no cell phones and technology - simpler times. Audience didn’t know what to expect.
I would hope it’s a FIFO process. Especially on a limited run. Confirmed Order # w time stamp should matter.
I just think it’s fair and the right way to do business in general.
I was 3 days late on LZ and was at the back of the line and had to wait 4 months or so. I thought that was completely fair - others acted swiftly and got their orders in before I did and deserved it sooner. Just my take on the fifo system.
I anticipate online ordering hiccups with any high demand item these days. Fond memories of obtaining a PS5 months back. Luck of the draw.
Quoted from Roostking:
Remember, those who went through Spooky will, in some cases, get their game before you, even if you ordered through a distro before them, given the stated production plans. 50 to Family/Spooky direct, 50 to distro, 50 to Spooky direct etc etc.
Very true. I went direct and got my order in rather quickly - but like all of us, I really have no clue where I'm at - they will tell me where I'm at when they are ready and it is what it is. Just happy i got a CE to be honest.
I thought I read somewhere on here that production started last Friday (when a big shipment of parts arrived) and that they can make approx 22 game a week.
Just some people who ordered from distributors....No Machine #'s for any direct orders yet. Hopefully soon.
Holy shit - I got #78! how awesome is that!? Possibly the best # other than 1031. Should have it fairly quickly.
Looks like it plays well and is a hell of a lot of fun. Originally Thought it may be a little bit of a slower game from the promo, but the actual gameplay looks outstanding.
blacklight lighting would look great considering the night time shots had a great blu hue courtesy of Dean Cundy...
Quoted from Roostking:
Out of this whole weekend, 2 conventions, 2 Pinball machines, and we got barely 3 vids. Seriously!!!
I live 20 mins from where the convention was and was tempted but I want to wait until I get it in my house in a month or so. Should have taken one for the team...my bad.
Gotta disagree with you 100% on this one. Absolutely love the opening music to the gameplay…perfectly sets the tone as you get started. Was hoping this track was present when first starting out. Definitely will get more upbeat as you progress. I don’t want to hear the main theme ad-nauseum.
Im hoping that the music from when Laurie gets stabbed at the top of the stairs is used for multiball! Da…dada…da…dada
Overall Was very impressed. My only gripe was the overuse of that same sound effect back to back (with different pitch).
Thanks for the stream as well as chiming In on this thread. I’m very Happy with everything so far, but if I may give a negative- that sound effect in 2 different pitches has 100% got to go. Definitely Keep one of them, but the back to back w the pitch variation on certain shots sounds terrible. Maybe Replace one of them with something else?
Any comments on an “adult mode”?
I’ll be an early code adopter due to my # and am looking forward to see the game progress. Keep up the good work!
I'm Well aware that the code is not done, but I do Agree with Cary on a few points he made regarding Halloweens repetitive sounds. Nothing wrong with some constructive criticism...it's not like he was being a dick about it. It was One of the first things I noticed as well when watching the stream.
anyone else plan on painting or covering up the screw in the middle of the hand on the topper?
Quick question - Will the stern HD glass fit a spooky pin? I'm assuming it will, but want to make sure. Gotta say I'm Kinda disappointed that the CE doesn't come with a form of HD glass...
the lack of HD glass just a minor frustration...not a big deal. It's awesome that it comes w a topper, kickass side rails, custom knife plunger, speaker covers, and lighted speakers so its a little give and take.
Easy there fella - No ones crying…just listing the give and takes. Clearly stated if you took the time to read the posts…
Quoted from Jediturtle:
LOL...ok that's the funniest thing I've seen today.
Sorry guys...it just rubbed me wrong that with SO many extras being added to the CE, people are still not satisfied. Trust me, I get wanting my cake and eating it too. Snapped back harder than I needed to though.
All good! The entire CE package is astounding- hence why I ordered after only seeing their short promo video. Can’t wait to get the email in the next week or so asking butter or no butter!
Finding HD glass in stock somewhere can just be a pain sometimes that’s all! Minor concern at this point and I probably shouldn’t have mentioned it at all - Wasn’t trying to dog them.
Once my machine arrives I’m going to have one of my co-workers 3-D print something similar to this to cover up the motor of the topper.
If you could comment on the overall span of the topper knife movement id appreciate it. So far it doesn’t seem like it raises all that much - possibly just a few inches.
Mildly interested in the butter (as this will be on the left side of my 3 pins with full view of the Left side from my Hallway/entry) but cant really justify $1,000 for it. Would need to see it in person I guess and that's not an option for me. I'm perfectly happy with how my LZ and MET look with just the regular cabinet decals, and I think Halloween looks just fine as well without the butter based on this pics I've seen. Guess the colors do pop a little more w butter, but $1000... just cant justify it for myself. Budget is stretched thin as is!
I see they added a Rabbit in Red matchbook decal on the sanitarium drop target - love the little touches that are being added in. Hope all the drop targets have a little something added to them.
# 78 here and haven’t heard from them on butter/no butter yet. Should hear soon - I’m thinking mine may be ready maybe around late September which is cool. Would rather have a quality game w no issues than to see rush rush rush and complaints start rolling in. Excited to see these get in people’s hands.
Just doing some planning here... Anyone know who spooky uses for freight, how much the shipping costs are at checkout, and how long it would approx take to arrive near chicago? I live about 2-1/2 hrs away and wondering if I should just rent a truck and pick it up myself…possible LTL shipping damage are of concern or should I not worry about that…
It would be cool to see the clip of Loomis shooting Michael and him falling off the balcony on the LCD when the magnet locks the ball after going up the ramp on the upper playfield.
Quoted from Frax:
I'm honestly considering driving out there to get my Ultraman when it's time. The gas (even at 3.25/gallon) would cost less than I expect shipping to. It's only 1800 miles round trip, probably need 3-4 days to get er done. Never been to Iowa or Illinois, so could check those off the list.
Respect. That’s dedication - and here I am debating whether to drive only 2-1/2 hours…shame on me. I just need to find a truck or SUV - all I have is a sedan.
Hope they tweak the topper - looks very odd when the H and N don’t light up. The LED strip must be shorter than the lettering!
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:
I bet even adding a bit of reflective material would expand the range of the led outward to cover the H and N. Also…sometimes lighting looks odd on camera. Maybe it does light up the whole marquee in person. Cameras compensate for light or the lack there of in odd ways (ie: the light strips everyone was complying about until they saw them in person)
I like the reflective idea - could work well and be an easy tweak. I noticed the same light spread when it was at the horror convention in Chicago a few weeks back so it looks like that is how it was designed. Not a big deal, but if they are looking for feedback - that’s my 2c on the topper.
Quoted from Obed_Marsh:
Not to be a naysayer, but realistically someone mentioned they were in the low 50s and hasn't been contacted yet, and they had said contact would be 3 weeks from going on the line I believe. So probably unlikely you'll get it by Halloween.
My number is 79 and I was initially thinking I'd have it late September, but now I figure I'll be lucky to get it by Halloween. I'm not complaining I'd rather they tweak and playetest it a bit more. I love my ACNC but it's pretty rough around the edges
I'm one ahead of ya at 78. If things progress as planned - We'll have ours in 4-5 weeks or so.
Lee Brackett’s perfect sideburns better be shown on that beautiful LCD screen! Haha
True on LZ - I own one and it was routed wrong. It happens…thankfully it’s in the back - not right in the middle of the playfield haha. Looks terrible. Oh well I’ll find out soon enough if it gets corrected on mine.
One question for spooky games -do they also have the option to put more than 3 letters on the high score? My Stern games give me the option. Gotta make sure “HOTSAUCE” is plastered all over the leaderboards to make my buddies jealous.
Thanks guys. Overall liking what I’ve seen so far. Game looks great and will only get better as we go. Nice to know they are at #70 and things are progressing well on the line. I’m expecting my call next week for butter or no butter.
And thank you to the spooky team for chiming in every so often - that goes a long way in my book. Keep up the great work.
Quoted from Morinack:
Keep in mind 70 units is split between both models.
Sounds like approx 50 Halloween and 20 Ultraman.
I would guess you will get the email next week at #78. Following week at the latest.
Yeah somewhere around there. The anticipation puts me in a good mood knowing it’s relatively soon. The original Halloween film might as well be part of my DNA so this is the perfect theme for me.
Quoted from Hayfarmer:
I think the modders will come up with something for the balcony area, I know Medisinyl is waiting for his game to start working on them. Looks great from factory tho for sure
I see a couple spots open for something - perhaps a small figurine in the middle and maybe something could go over the clear plastic cover at the top. Also an open space in the upper left corner but I’m not one to overcrowd a machine.
He is referring to the “hedge multiball” insert where only “hedge multiba” light up and the “ll” are outside of the lit insert. It looks sloppy and terrible.
After a lot of contemplation yesterday afternoon and evening I’m starting to get concerned on this one sadly. It’s a big investment for me and cold feet are developing…
I LOVE the theme as I’m a huge fan of the film but I am starting to have 2nd thoughts as well on this game after watching the newest stream (has nothing to do with Godzilla as I’m not in on that theme). Im not the biggest fan of the animations in the current state and overall what is being shown on the lcd is far to static and just plain boring. And if they are that tight on approving what is being shown (3-5 seconds tops) what’s the point on movie clips ect? Example: The house with lightning and Michael In the closet are almost always being shown.
Will this game just get old and repetitive very quickly? I’m more of a rock pin guy so I have some concerns developing.
Sadly I am ‘toying’ with the idea of selling my spot as well.
I was going to get GNR but when Halloween was announced I was like - alright I’ll stray from a rock pin and just go for it since I love the original film so much . Halloween is different and I like that - I think the 2 mini upper playfields would be something fun and completely different to what I own now as I like variety in my home games. It has some cool stuff but is also missing some things that I like in games too. I may of just acted on FOMO and am now paying the price. This flip flopping is driving me nuts! Only myself to blame. It will be interesting to see how this turns out and which direction I go.
I see 17 now for sale on here - not a trend that puts things in my favor.
I played GNR a few times at my distro and thought it was pretty damn cool. Then Halloween got announced.
I want to love Halloween…I really do. Just have my concerns…
Quoted from thundergod76:
I'm still a little surprised that the license holder authorized a Halloween pin. For many years they protected this property like crazy and went after anyone trying to use the name, images or likenesses. For a while they were shutting down eBay auctions of those selling unlicensed, custom Myers masks. And judging from what Spooky says they are Still very protective of the property. Maybe some new blood came in and saw the money to be made. Anyways, hopefully Spooky will chime in and address some of our most recent concerns.
From what I’ve heard, There are 2 things John Carpenter loves:
1. Cash (firm believer in capitalism)
2. John Carpenter
Kinda surprised they did licensee it out as well - hence why I jumped on it.
Actually don’t mind the hedge! It’s an iconic scene and I’m glad they are showcasing it. Cracked me up and I thought it was a fun novelty.
Biggest concern screenwise - static images. Boring beyond belief. Need to keep things moving. Needs real animation IMO - not stop animation w 3 or 4 frames - Michael in the background swaying while character has 2 or 3 frames moving their head around. Perhaps going for a comic style, but just needs more. A hell of a lot more.
Movie clips must be more than 3-6 seconds. I know limitations by the licensor are in place but push must come to shove.
I know it’s early, but if they are looking for feedback - they are getting it. I don’t favor any company but for 10K I want to be satisfied w my purchase. I’m rooting for them and am trying to maintain high hopes but the reality so far has me concerned. Hope I am proved wrong and I’ll eat crow. Fingers crossed.
Love the dedication Luke and appreciate you chiming in. I’ll keep the faith that this will develop nicely over time.
Quoted from radfordian3505:
No please dont stop making videos. Yours are awesome and have made me and my wife so excited. We even have the notifications turned on for your channel on YouTube.
Agree 100. I appreciate your videos and your feedback so for. Watched your videos countless times and they capture the vibe well. Thank you.
My apologies if I contributed in a negative manner and assisted in setting a bad tone. It’s a lot of money to me and perhaps I’m just looking for a little reassurance that I didn’t make a bad decision. Just giving feedback in hopes of helping make this a great game. I’m just going to concentrate on the positives I’ve seen so far (and there are plenty) and just enjoy the ride as code gets better over time.
Thank you for the recent Stream Tiskinne. Watched a good hour of it just now.
In regards to the animation - I do love they way they look. The colors, shading, ect all are great and fit the theme well. Also liked how he took stills from the film and added a little movement like the kitchen escape scene. You can see the knife moving ever so slightly…That looked badass and could be expanded upon well. Just hoping to see a little more action, movement, and substance to each scene. Glad he says he has lots to work with and they want heavy animation. Would compliment the game well if expanded upon.
Add in longer clips from the film. The more the better. Anything they will allow that is cool and relevant is more than welcome.
Scoring presentation seemed fairly clean and tame.. Maybe add a flashy style other than a white blinking number? Perhaps a knife slashing the jackpot amount or something reflecting the Halloween theme a little more. Hopefully you get my drift - plenty of options.
Quoted from dnapac:
I found this on Etsy. I thought the topper looked fine, but thought I’d see how this looked. It’s made out of wood, so could be painted. I just drilled a hole in it and mounted it to the metal plate with Velcro.
Not too shabby! Painless install and adds a nice touch. Just ordered one.
I’ve decided it’s too much of a dream theme for me to dwell on a few issues that I know will just get better over time. They’ve said this since day one. Glad I came back to reality after a slight case of cold feet.
If longer scenes are added (fingers crossed) please make them skippable. 98% I’d watch em in full, but Gotta keep my mojo going in the rare opportunity I got a great game going!
For those that don’t do Facebook:
Hey guys! Just going to take some time to give some update notes on the day to day around here! We don’t use Facebook to often but I am going to try to start!
We have been doing 5-6 games per day for a few weeks now. I’m sure we will run into the occasional shortage of parts but for now things look really good. Plan is to slowly ramp up to 40 games per week over the course of the next 4 months. Expanding crew continuously but taking our time so as to keep the quality as high as possible. We want you getting the best product we can build. Should be hitting our 100th game late next week!
As far as code we have a TON of cool things on the agenda! Will be working on this for the next 12 months so lots of content.
Will be dropping a major Halloween update Oct 1st. So far 19 original movie clips have been approved for use in the game. The next update includes 15 of those. Will be releasing a list of additions with the update.
A major Ultraman update will follow in the coming weeks.
As for the insert questions I am going to take a look at it and see what the options are and how the art was intended.
Glad to see so many people enjoying the game and can’t wait to make it even better!
go a page back to my post - Spooky posted an update on FB yesterday. #'s 51+ should start building around week of 10/4 once they finish up the VIPS.
All I am hoping for is a nice balance. Yeah I don't need to see the whole film on loop - just some cool key snippets every now and then. 19 sounds pretty solid so far. I do like the animations - just hope to see a little more substance and variety to them. I think they pay a nice homage to the film and will fit it nicely once tweaked. The more the better IMO. Spookys' gonna take care of us.
Quoted from Obed_Marsh:
I was initially confused with this also, but to my understanding they are nearing 100 games done total between Halloween and Ultraman. All these are still in the friends, family, vip batch.
It sounds as though they will start getting into the public games the first week of October. 51 and onward for both games
I read on Facebook that Ultraman # 52 got his email yesterday....Things are progressing.
I'm still excited for this....just been laying low due to the negativity around here lately...# 78 here and hoping for the call late this week if my math is close.
Quoted from freakyvideoguy:
Who knows, I'm 15 ahead of you and have not gotten the butter no butter email yet (which should come three weeks before it goes on the line). If they do a 50 distributer batch first, that may not be coming for a few weeks still.
Spooky direct orders go out first starting with # 51. If they are finishing up the first 100 VIP machines this week as they stated, I see no reason why we should not be getting the call this week.
Perhaps it’s been trimmed down to 2 weeks on the line after getting the emailed invoice? Wishful thinking as that would be the only way I’d get mine before Halloween. Fingers crossed and I’m ready to pay the balance. Still would rather have a quality game than rushed with issues…
I've been concerned about the 3 scoops on the left as well as the subways since the reveal. I'm giving it a shot as subways are new to me and I'm a huge fan of the film. Just hoping the 3 scoops don't end up being boring shots over time. I want variety in my lineup and Halloween does look and play quite different than most games. If I end up not liking it, I will be trading it for A GNR LE.
Quoted from Tsskinne:
I'm going to stream the game more tonight, the left side shots include 3 stand up targets, 3 scoops, and an orbit, I think if people actually paid attention to the rules of modes and multiballs they would appreciate the shots that are actually over there. Anyway, my suggestion to anyone is to go and actually play the machine somewhere.
Just wish to say I appreciate your streams. Watched it again last night for the 3rd time.
I was under the impression that they are finishing up the VIP's 1-100 this week and starting regular customer orders next week.
Liking what I am seeing with the new update. Some observations: The movie clips are still just a tad too short and seem to cut off at odd moments. Also Hoping they can do a little more with the house with lightning - looks good, but it’s on the screen way too much.
Posted this in the other thread but maybe there’s some more visibility here:
Was hoping since day 1 that BOC’s “Don’t fear the reaper” would be present during a certain mode. Alternate the left and center ramp to pass the joint between Annie and Laurie. Time it out with so many combos so you don’t get busted by Sherrif Bracket at the hardware store. Who’s w me or am I nuts and it’s a bad idea? Most horror films have their attempts at humor…
Quoted from Pinman502:
At the rate they are going I don’t see them making 18 months it took over two months to get out 50 games at this peace I don’t think I will see mine until the Middle of 2023 it would be nice to have updates on production from time to time
Read up - They have been giving updates. They will hit it within the timeframe and it wouldn’t surprise me if they hit it ahead of schedule as they did last time around. Starting off slow to make sure the quality is there and ramping up as they go.
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:
Anyone else feel like it would be cool for the clips to fade in and out of the animations screens instead of abrupt cuts in/out? I feel like it would draw these elements together instead of one or the other feeling out of place.
100% - a little jarring in their current state, but I believe my LZ does the same... even a quick fade in/out would refine things a little.
Am I noticing a hint of amber in the CE powdercoating? Looks very fall-like and I love it…
Quoted from rai:
What is the issue?
People still talking about the ‘Hedge Multiball’ insert text issue…. Part of mutilball is outside the insert and doesn’t light up “ll”. Jarring at first, but I have no issue with it. My LZ lights up “ock and Roll” lol! No big deal and it effects nothing.
Yep - some are losing their minds over it. I’m sure they’ll address it at a feasible time. Mines gonna have it and I’m at peace.
Was just gonna ask the same. I’m 78’, glad they addressed it and hope it’s corrected on mine but it never was a deal breaker for me.
I have played GNR and liked it a lot - as I love Rock pins. I have not played Halloween yet and I have been on the fence since day 1. After watching almost all of the streams (minus the completely negative ones I read about here), I really don't think I will enjoy the subways all too much and 4 of the main shots in the game all go that route, so it is of a big concern. The 3 hedge shots look like they will get old very quickly (again just my opinion based on what I like in a game) and that takes up the entire left side of the playfield. Wish they shot the ball back and didn't go the subway route. Please remember we didn't see all too much prior to the 9am sell time and I knew it was going to sellout immediately. HUGE fan of the original film and theme is very important to me - Game is definitely cool and different but it just may not be for me to invest 10K. I may keep it in the box or play it - haven't decided yet. If I had unlimited funds, yes I would be keeping it 100% but I don't. It saddens me, but this is where I'm at.
Very happy for those that are getting this and I hope all of you love it.
Quoted from Kkoss24:
Honestly I’d give it a try bud .In case you want to still trade lmk what’s local for you .I have a GnRLE wasn’t thinking about getting rid of it but might for this and sell my other HW spot .
You're right - after serious thought, I'm Going to try first before I bail on it. Its a dream theme so I have to give it a chance. Invoice paid.
Quoted from Porkfritter:
Just can't see how you can't like it if it is a dream theme. . . all I can advise is to give it a fair shot and don't let someone else's opinion or an insert sway yours. . . If your an advocate for pinball and not just looking to shit on the first thing you can, I think you will find a lot to enjoy here. . .
Definitely a dream theme for me, but theme isn’t everything - the game must shoot well. Others opinions and an insert issue don’t mean anything to me. My concerns lie in reality on how the game will play based on what I like. I’ll have it late next week and will dive into the game and then decide. If I like it, I’ll keep it. If I don’t, I won’t. Trying to be positive - I hope I love it!
Getting ready to stream Halloween Kills. Been looking forward to this one. Hoping Laurie isn’t called “grandmother” 50 times like she was in the last one. Found that so odd. All my buddies thought it sounded weird too - Who does that? Don’t most just say grandma!? Lol
Very shocked to hear of someone knocking the cabinet artwork. I think it’s phenomenal and perfectly captures the Halloween vibe. One of the best cabs I’ve ever seen.
No clue who you are referring to, but I stand behind what I said. I have concerns and I believe that’s a fair comment as I’m a buyer. Will only know for fact once I play it. Hoping I’m pleasantly surprised. Don’t like my posts being used by others to shit all over a game though - that is not my intent. I try to be a positive person and I can also mention plenty of things I do like about this game.
As for Halloween kills, just finished watching it. Some Aspects I really liked, but some dialog had me cringing here and there. Worth a viewing. Im kinda a purist when it comes to Michael Myers and nothing will ever touch the original.
The flashbacks were the only saving Grace to this film - Very well done. Glad they dropped the attempts at humor as well. Movie was all over the place - some parts I liked, some were just terrible. A lot of wasted time on elements that really didn’t matter all too much. Michael is more of a stalker - his actions in this film were far from the norm taking on crowds of people all at once on multiple occasions. Didn’t fit.
While definitely entertaining, there is no way this movie should have been postponed a year so people can view it as some ‘masterpiece’ in theaters as they mentioned. Very overhyped but that’s expected.
Glad it only costed $5 to stream it at home.
Quoted from Porkfritter:
Welp. . . unfortunately. . that guy that has a podcast that kinda looks like he has a squirrel on his head used your post to shit on the game some more and also Halloween Kills, which I thought was a kick ass movie personally. I think you are entitled to do what you want with your money and your spot. . . who is it for anyone to judge. .
With someone with that big of a following, think what good they could do if they decided to be a true advocate for pinball!
Found who you are referring to after a little research. don’t know much about him, but saw his post on Facebook and responded.
He was definitely brutal in this film. Some of the death scenes were very well done and I did like a couple of the instances where Michael was up to his old games as he toyed with his victims. Not to spoil, but one of my favorites was The slow camera pan as one victim died slowly watching what was going on was quite creepy.
Cut out some of the bullshit and it was a great film:
Marion chambers acting was awful. “This is for Dr. loomis!” That was So bad.
“Evil dies tonight” was so overdone it was comical.
The mob scene with the other smiths grove patient was awful. As if a 5 ft 2 fat troll looking guy was mistaken for Michael….comon - cringe worthy. I get the point they were trying to make with monsters creating monsters, but it took up way too much time. Looks like they are pushing some slight agenda with this film reflecting on modern society (ugh). I get it, but it was overdone.
Take out the things above and I think it’s a winner. Hopefully they make some adjustments in the directors cut if they go that route.
looks like they are using R&L carriers for me....Do they usually call and give you a heads up when they will be delivering?
Cool thank you. It stated R&L on the invoice, but they have not contacted me yet. Work is just giving me shit because I have no firm date I’m taking off yet for the delivery.
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