Ben said it's not Scooby Doo, but he's not above misdirection, so...maybe?

Scooby Doo would sell > Rick and Morty numbers with ease. It has multi-generational appeal from never being off the air since the 1960s, no bad language, implied drug humor for comedy, great characters with well-established personalities, and a MOUNTAIN of video assets. Easily the broadest appeal of all the titles floated in this thread. The perfect pin theme if you want sales.

Not specifically Evil Dead, but could it be Army of Darkness? Or is that too similar in theme to Alice Cooper

Edit: caught up on the last page, sorry for repeating discussion!

Could also be A NEW Nightmare on Elm Street pin ?!

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Scooby Doo will likely sell well enough, there will be some demand for it. My prior posts were focused on the three horror movies that were being discussed.

All the same, I think R&M is a better theme for pinball in 2021 than Scooby Doo. It’s modern. It’s hot as it could possibly be. There have been numerous failed attempts to bring back Scooby Doo...they never make it past a couple seasons. Just because something is super nostalgic and super recognized doesn’t mean it’ll sell out in four hours like R&M did...you need more than recognition you need enthusiasm. Rick and Morty had a ton of enthusiasm...just ask McDonalds...Scooby Doo doesn’t command near the enthusiasm that R&M does in 2021.

R&M is hands down a superior theme to Scooby Doo...and it’s not close. This doesn’t mean Scooby Doo is not a good theme, it’ll sell.

Whoa. Wait is this it?!

Looks like a photo shop.

painfully obvious photoshop.

Yes it is, but... but...

Anyway, I hate this theme even though it was popular back then...

It is quite a let down, I hope it is not it

I’m a huge horror nerd and not a fan of NOES. Would WAY PREFER Army of Darkness, Evil Dead II, Return of the living dead, Dead Alive, Reanimator, Friday 13th etc etc

I don't recall any of that, except maybe for Shaggy's laid back hippie-like persona and speech, man, and the fact that he and Scooby were always hungry, as if they had the munchies. Bit of a stretch. The originators in the 60s certainly weren't going to deliberately do anything that controversial and in fact denied doing so, when it was finally brought up years later as a rumor.

The same goes for HR Pufnstuf's creators, the Krofft brothers, and that show was trippy as hell. It's a bit harder to believe them, though. Come on, puffin' stuff? Wow, I never realized they only made 17 episodes. If you remember the show and haven't seen the Mr. Show skit "The Altered State of Drugachusetts" you just have to.

The Banana Splits was pretty bananas, as well!

I’d prefer a F13 pin over another Nightmare pin, but either would make sense. Freddy is universally recognizable and would probably sell pretty well. Same as Rick and Morty? Probably not.

I’d say the opposite.

The amount of queries I get for the Gottlieb Freddy pin is amazing, considering what a POS it is. It’s non pin people, who want a F13 pinball just for the theme.

Rick and Morty has very passionate fans - but in the mainstream, not so much.

Almost everyone has heard of Freddy Krueger.

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R&M sold out in hours, though. It would be tough to match that. If the next game really is Freddy, I guess we’ll see.

If (a) the next game is Freddy and (b) sells out in minutes vs. hours, I’ll buy you a box of Tim Tams.

I don't think it is Freddy, Halloween, or Friday the 13th. If anything it would be more likely to be Saturday the 14th.

Would love evil dead and if that's not happening then hopefully a theme with a charismatic heel like nightmare. Blending horror, comedy, and fun is the recipe.

Please just not a family friendly theme because everyone else is making those.

Exactly, This is a boutique pinball company..Make pins that are not commercial mainstream please!

Yes, a trendy show that's been popular for just the last few years is sooooo much better of a theme than one of these major franchises that have been part of our culture for the last 40-50 years, with some of the most recognizable characters of all time. WTH is Spooky thinking??? This could be the next C.S.I. or '24'! I'm *sure* R&M will still have legions of fans, merchandise, and new movies and shows in 40 years.

There's nothing wrong with going with the flavor of the day, or something with wider appeal, but I think it's a bit harsh to say it would be a horrible business dicision to go with a classic horror movie theme.

who cares about what happens in 40 years. RM is cool today and sold out, that is the goal for a business. They are not looking at the collectibility of a pinball table in 40 years.

They are looking at making $8000 x 1.000 overnight. That is what they are looking at...

Also Nightmare on Elm is dated and not even scary or fun to watch anymore. It is a cheese 90s movie, please do not make a pin over this crap.

I don’t believe that brand recognition matters all that much, if it did then Bible Adventures would be by far and away a top tier theme that everyone would be working on and trying to bring to market. Enthusiasm for a brand, on the other hand, is all that matters and the reason R&M sold out in four hours.

I mean, I guess we will see soon if the next Spooky is in fact Nightmare, F13, or Halloween and they sell out in less than 4 hours. I’m still holding out hope it’s an Ash based game (which will instantly take my Godzilla money from Stern).

Agree 100%, never saw Scooby as anything other than a delightfully campy representation of the times in which it was created.

The thing is, by the time Scooby was first released in ‘68 or ‘69, the hippie/druggy stuff had already thoroughly influenced the wider popular culture. By that point, even the “squares” were wearing paisley & pachouli and using slang like “far out” and “gassy”, and the Technicolor aesthetic permeated just about everything.

There were even classical albums released during this time which featured heavily “psychedelic” album art, but I have yet to hear anyone argue that Herbert von Karajan, George Szell, or Leonard Bernstein were “heads”, lol.

Anyone who doesn't think Shaggy was high constantly is in denial.

Holy noise - the nightmare. The greatest hardcore techno song IMO. Very Fine example.
You’ve got their power, I’ve got their souls...”

I didn't think people who are high constantly had the energy to go out and chase spooks.

They certainly never showed him toking up or anything, not even an unexplained cloud of smoke in the Mystery Machine.

It isn't denial if the thing being denied is untrue.

Shaggy spent most of his time hiding. And...LMAO. Whatever you want to tell yourself.

Next you'll be saying Tech Sgt. Chen wasn't high the entire time because they never showed him toking up.

I totally remember a cloud of smoke coming from the Mystery Machine!!

That was still while short, the best interpretation of the Scooby Doo bunch in live action ever.

ANd yes, I realize the creators to this day deny it ever being intentional, but...it's a kids show... it would hurt the brand to admit it...or at least...it would have. I doubt it would hurt it at all these days.

You have got to be kidding. That isn't even Scooby Doo, it's a parody within a fucking Jay and Silent Bob movie.

Wow... You have absolutely no gauge for sarcastic humor, do you?

Since I obviously watched it, remembered it, searched for it, and posted it, I figured it was extremely obvious that I knew exactly what it was I was posting. Thanks for the description anyway... lol

Maybe I'm off base, but it seems some people are really underestimating how popular Rick and Morty is. And the Uber fans (which there are alot) are rabid. Scooby-Doo has been around forever though and has a broad base (5 years to 50). I don't think I'd want a Scooby-Doo pin, but I'm not really into that nostalgia stuff. Seems everyone else is though.

Dear Spooky,
It’s June tomorrow. Just saying. Let’s not drag this out any longer than needed.

Thanks.

The sales of BIBLE ADVENTURES would make Scooby-Doo look like RAZA!

So every new incarnation of Scooby since 1969 is because the previous show was a failure? If the show was a failure why would they keep coming back? Rick and Morty is not hotter than Scooby.

Many people are turned off by the language of R&M, that’s a fact. R&M can not compete with over 50 years of history and still going of Scooby. Scooby has much bigger appeal and a following. There is a reason Scooby has been around still since 1969. Once R&M is off the air, that will be it. Scooby has staying power that very few cartoons/franchises can claim.

Thinking of the Batman VS superman movie got me to contemplating Spooky's next pin.

My Little Pony VS Freddy on Elm Street.

Runner up, The Night of the Return of the Living Little Pony.

LTG : )

Spooky do Scooby Doo.
Thanks

Maybe it is House...

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Freddy, Jason, Michael, Pinhead, Ghostface, Chucky....Why pick one when you can have them all!

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John Carpenter's pinball journey. Best audio package ever.

Assault on precinct 13 ball multiball

Predator for the win!

Straight up John Carpenter retrospective in a single pin would be MIND BLOWING

Oh yeah! If it appens we will be sure to have 2 Scooby pin in France

I saw him live a few years back. He opened with Escape from New York. The house went apeshit

Seems to me I nailed it, I said you have got to be kidding, and I was right! And if you look closely, that van did not say Mystery Machine.

We were talking about the original cartoons. Thanks for wasting everyone's time describing the extremely obvious process of posting, though.

Changing gears,

Don't be so sure, they already annouced one spin-off.

Ben just sent me this....

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That special fish tales version of Christine, right?
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Pretty rare....

Exactly. If you don't think Scooby was eating Shaggys pot brownies then you are seriously naive. Someone else said the hippie thing has run its course. Seriously? It's still here! . The drug insinuating humor and mannerisms is 100% purposely done, well executes, and accepted as truth.

Could. It agree more. R&M is garbage first of all. And the pin sucks too. The show has such a small cult, intense group, following... Where as Scooby is multigenerational. My nephew was Scoobies for Halloween 4 years ago....

Scooby would be awesome as a pin and prefect for Spooky to do.