Man this is...a tough one. I am not really a fan of Ultraman, but the art is awesome.

You have to have a FANG membership to order on Wednesday. You can 'try' to order one that day, but it will cost you time. Best to decide before Wednesday because I think it can take time to process.

Also everyone needs to keep in mind that LED's on camera/video always look overblown and over saturated.

I 'think' the next one is Ben's + CGC collab? I'm sure they'll correct me if I'm wrong.

What he means is for the people who claim 'bolted to the floor' then MAYBE play them for 30 days before trying to sell them at a premium. So many people already making the usual statements of 'rare', which we know exactly what that means.

That's not what he said in the thread. UM is 500 locked.

-You are failing to take something major into account. We have reached a saturation price point. Too many games coming out too close together at astronomical prices. There are literally people waiting to see this reveal before deciding this or something else (and not just this release). While I think these will sell well...there are lots of options out there that probably require less wait time for anyone on the fence about these 2 themes.

Thing is, as many have said, it probably won't matter one bit.

Somewhere they said it was initially John Wick..so reskins of that

I think fretting over the unknown on a 9k game is completely legit. As legit as you questioning the LED's on something you haven't even seen in person.

According to many Pinsider for sale ads, that's all that happens to all their games.

I ordered 5 of each CE roughly at open with order number of 10799! woot. Time to get flippin!

EDIT: BTW this was a joke to screw with the number crunchers. I stuck to my no-FOMO and didn't buy one. Too many NiB lately.

They are, but I'm not clear if the #'s are simply based on the complete total number or based on # of each version.

Such an odd thing to 'stick it to em' about...

Congrats Spooky, another very successful launch.

Hope to see one or both of these out in the wild.

Can already see this going sideways fast....

Okay so that's over.

Spooky, when are you announcing Evil Dead?

I mean...do I really need 3 of the exact same layout??? Maybe...

This...give or take a few.

Hiding in the ball trough bitch?

might be the best callout ever.

Run around to distros, some still have small quantities.

You may as well ban people selling then.

In another reality, what if RAZA ships and a person still waiting for their Halloween to be built's dream theme is Food Truck and they only have room for 15 more games? You going to ruin their chance at their dream theme? Are ya? Huh?

The problem with the shop is there is no point paying all that extra for a really high end one 99% of the time. Once ever 12-20 months isn't worth it.

On R&M pf and cab are top notch. There's a few problem areas that hopefully are addressed on the new games. Perhaps one of the most frustrating issues was the flippers, but HWN/ULT are using Ben's new board I believe so hopefully that one is easier to get the flippers dialed in.

I will say, the jump to all the mechs and stuff on this new set will be interesting to see how well they last or how problematic they are.

Pinballstar and Nitro both still have games I believe. Get on it.

They haven't sold out, no matter how many times you try to say they have..... lol.

I'd be all in on a Clippy horror movie.

Speaking of which, I'll be posting a for trade ad for 5000 rolls of TP for a Halloween CE later. I expect it to go fast!

The game is entirely too bright to be 'scary'. At least as of what they've shown so far. The animations are not scary. I assume there are some clips from the movie, but anyone who has seen the movie isn't going to be scared by that. I've seen a few people comment about playing it in the dark etc....I don't see it happening, too many people complain about not enough lighting. The music alone isn't scary either, just iconic. There may be some modes with enough 'rush' to them to get your adrenaline pumping though.

I think the scariest thing on this pin is probably the clown on the backbox lol. That alone is very terrifying to many people.

Well they did that. 1 per game per account. Can't speak for the distros, but Spooky had already said that here.

If after 2 years of development, this is still a question, I'd be concerned. I'm sure they have it all figured out.

As I mentioned earlier somewhere, if you actually pay attention to the movies Loomis doesn't say that much, but he yells 'MICHAEL!" a lot. Doesn't leave a lot of room for using existing assets for callouts.

The use of this here raises some questions. lol.

It's only funny if you are a guy using it. I assume everyone is a guy until proven otherwise. If you are a female on the internet using it, you shouldn't assume anyone knows you are a female and that they are 'mansplaining' to you.

Those are awesome.

The clear ones do look.....bare. Normally on regular targets I could take or leave them, but the ones like this feel like they should have something on them. Like a target sticker, pumpkin, something. I'm sure someone won't waste the opportunity to make some stickers.

So are people selling games they paid $100 for for 9k or selling games after 30 days for above retail...but hey...

Just the nature of capitalism.

You typod HWN.

Yeah, in these backwater towns where houses are under 200k you have to give up the good things in life like bumper to bumper traffic, people being hateful walking down the street, homeless everywhere, people flipping you off as they pass, Starbucks on every corner etc. It's not for everyone.

Man I haven't been there since the Brickhaus closed!

I really do like the asthetic of Ultraman more than the Halloween, even though I like Halloween better as a theme.

Don't get me wrong. I LIKE the art, but overall I'm less hyped about it overall for the theme. I really don't know what it is, it just doesn't do it for me. Too much orange and brown and not enough black maybe...lol.

I jumped in. Don't expect to win, because I have this strange history of any raffle I enter I only win cutting boards (seriously), but it's for a good cause!

I dunno, is it fair Ben is flaunting that he's playing the game before having to buy it?

kidding.

Man..my first introduction to the internet was a 300baud talking over an 80 column printer to someone in germany. I just remember as cool as it was, it was a ton of wasted paper lol. I honestly don't recall WHY they were doing it over a printer, as i know the computer had a monitor.

Ah man....Atari 800. Loved that thing. The town I lived in was long distance to everywhere so I was never allowed to get a modem for it

Spooky's new theme. Spooky's Online Nightmare. Make your way through the evolution of tech and the internet. Complete with Steve Jobs and Bill Gates bash toys.

Mine is a little disjointed. I went from the Atari 800 to a P133 with a 28.8....not really anything in between. Talk about mind blown.

For me it was Star Raiders. And...some game I can't recall...zookeeper and a monkey kind of like Q-Bert (edit: Flip and Flop).

Yea we learned during R&M that order numbers were not exactly a good indication.

Same, but still love the first (and actually the 2nd too) and would love a decent Predator pin.

The wrench is the distros. Until you have all that info, 12-18 months is quite a spread.

Evil Dead first!

Prediction AOD/Scooby dual theme layout

Jokes on us, after the HWN/ULT runs are done, Spooky is changing to Pachinko games. Ultraman was just a foot in the door.

Growth and reliance on growth is what kills customer orientation. When the world can be happy just turning a profit and staying in business, the world will be a better place. Thinking you NEED to grow to stay in business is a bullshit mentality that causes more problems and the main reason for good companies turning into greedy shit companies.

Tenacious D / RHPS pin

Boomer boomer boooo!

Hope so.

It's awesome they are doing themes that are fringe/niche.

The protectors ARE made of the same material. The reason you don't see them break is putting them on makes the thickness double thus harder to crack. So, really the solution would just be thicker plastics from teh get go, but in doing that you make them much less flexible in hard to reach places (so even more prone to breakage when putting in or taking out.

Depends on what you are trying to prevent. The art scraping off the bottom is a different issue than what protectors are actually meant for. If you put them below, you might save the art, but now the tops of them are prone to scratching - so you would STILL have to do something about the actual plastics.

The only true solution is to not play your game.

Yeah some of the colored ones look cool when combined with the lighting.

Oh I'm sure it happens, but it is rare.

Might be nice if they were a touch lighter...

Here's hoping Ben's game is Evil Dead (I just call it ED and it is assumed it means everything).

Man you people are still talking about Halloween? That was so last week. What's the next project??

They sell your spots for higher prices. BOOM!

I rarely vote in polls, I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Really are completely different styles of movies, so really not worth comparing. I do wish they would have stuck to that idea though, they probably wouldn't have been any worse than many of the later sequels.

I have a hard time believing ANY theme wouldn't sell 500 in this market. We could...well point to RAZA as maybe a counter to that, or even PB Alien, but those both had their own baggage to deal with when announced.

Hell half the people who bought Ultraman didn't even know what it was. They bought it on looks alone. Others bought it because 'rarity'. No one cares about gameplay anymore, just how much they can get out of it when they sell it...lol.

Based isn't the reason. Implementation is the reason. Same as movies. There are good ways to do it, and there are bad. Somehow, they always chose the bad way.

If i had to guess it has more to do with the people tasked with designing such games are not fans and have few ideas because of that. Keep in mind the age frames at the time those games came out. They are more 'our' (more likely mine than yours as I think you are younger than me) age range than the people designing at the time.

There are plenty of non-videogame licensed pinballs that suck. I think it all has very little to do with source material and very much on whoever is tasked with designing and their grasp or love of the source material. That doesn't mean some themes aren't more suited to pinball than others though. But video games are task oriented, just like video games. It should translate just fine when done right.

Very much a thing and surprising no one has ever done anything since TZ powerball...

Hah...while I agree with your sentiment, unfortunately, people are stupid and don't care for originality, no matter how much they claim to be bored with the same ol same ol.

yeah, you could be right, but I would be surprised if you see Spooky release any original games in the future. As for RAZA, yeah, didn't hate it, the company killed that one, but I can't help but think if it had been a popular licensed theme, they would have suckered way more people into it.

Okay Spooky. Bruce Campbell just confirmed he's willing to do Ash voice work, just doesn't want to live action Ash due to age.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/bruce-campbell-announces-return-evil-160000946.html

"You previously announced that you've retired from playing Ash onscreen. So you won't be appearing in it?"

Bruce: "I won't be appearing in it, no. I will be in the upcoming Evil Dead game, which I think is due for February 2022. I just finished the voice for that. The nice thing is, your voice doesn't age as much as your body, so I can milk that for a few more years. "

Get on it

MM retheme would be appropriate.

Thing is, this is what every home owner should be doing, but we've turned into the gotta have it now people. Look at the CGC thread, people actually complaining and the sky is falling because they haven't announced anything recently. Insanity.

Companies are using this to their advantage. Thing is, it cannot last forever. It's already lasted longer than one would have thought.

The point I think people are tryign to make is, operators are not the primary consumers now. It is home users. Operators buy almost everything that comes out. Home users have to pick and choose. Factories do not want the 'wait and see' approach. They are taking major advantage of the current FOMO to get people to hand over the money before they have much info on the game.

This is EXACTLY why DR, and other failed projects have been able to take advantage of people.

We already did that 2-3 pages ago or more. Halloween and Ultraman are old and janky. We are looking for new and tasty.

Neither. I won't buy a Stern without playing it first...actually 90% of games I would not buy without first playing, let alone not seeing anything other than artwork. This isn't the era of a shortage of pinball, and I certainly don't need to brag about being 'first'.

Point being, we are morons for buying games like this sight unseen at these prices. I tend to prefer original themes over licensed themes. While Spooky knocked it out of the park with R&M - it could have easily went the other way, and each license is going to be different. Expectations are high these new games will knock it out of the park as well. But what if.....guarantee a bunch of these pop up for sale after gameplay/code reveals with people who don't like the direction.

However, I also take into account location. Moving games in this area is harder than Cali or New York. I don't want to hassle with a game I may not like.

While you wait for your Halloween.

If you aren't interested in heavy music this probably isn't for you. If you are though, The Silver Scream is an excellent album for horror fans. This particular song is about the first Halloween movie.

Great too, but heavy is...well subjective. I would imagine anyone stuck on 80's hair metal or top 40 pop isn't going to like either one. One of their songs does venture into death metal territory briefly. They are all over the map music wise. As it should be.

Also, if you hate on different genres of metal, you aren't a music fan. But that's a different topic.

This is my current favorite newer album.....which is actually a remake of a really old album...those bastards.

Do we think they are going to release more info on HWN/UMN before announcing TNA2.0?

Because even the old fogies haven't escaped the 'me me me it's all about me' apocalypse.

Speaking of which, have I told you about me lately?

Yep...for you newbies. It's best to just chill and find a hobby and not think about it or worry about it. Occasionally check the threads for who's getting their games and #'s, and just let it go. Don't fret. Just be patient. Don't freak if the date you have in your head isn't met. Especially if things get bad again. You'll get your game...eventually. Those at the back of the line, the hype will be long gone by the time you get yours as everyone will have moved on to the next new and shiny.

He posts here regularly. He's on it.

I still think they missed the mark on not keeping the top tier the BSE.

Marking this for in 10 months...

That's the only way to do it and stay sane. The only real issues is hoping no one releases a game you really want in the mean time.

The mod set up he created is quite impressive.

I just want to make a comment around Spooky storefront issues to level set peoples expectations.

I just tried to order a Steam Deck. Much larger company with a long standing storefront, brought to its knees in the first minute of sales.

It's just how the internet works. I still don't know if I got one even though it says transaction pending.

that's how hype and FOMO works...

They are most likely buying lambo's and sipping drinks in mexico with all your down payments.

I simply am not interested in watching or hearing about this podcast...or any podcast for that matter.

They could just play the entire Happiness in Slavery video as its own mode, for all the horror fans.

as it should be.

No. At least not if you are thinking of it as an 'investment'.

Still not worth it as an investment. I'm just considering his words, because resale of it isn't that sought after and MOST people do line their games up side by side to maximize space. If you want it to look pretty, sure get it, but 'worth it'? That's highly dependent on the person, and their plans for it. Don't buy it thinking it is going to increase the resale value. You are more likely to lose money on that add-on.

wrong thread somehow.

That's normal. Doubles, people backing out, etc. I think lots of people like me waiting to see some actual gameplay footage before deciding. It's a 12 month wait anyway. Just wait another 6-10 months and there will be others trying to get rid of their spots. Lots of people in this hobby are impatient, and a lot can change in ones life in a year.

Most of the people who wanted one have already scooped one up. There are probably some out there that don't realize there are any there. Nothing has changed. This happened to a smaller extent with the R&M release as well. The rest of my statement also plays into it. If they ahve to wait 12-18 months to get it, they are probably less likely to jump on it knowing that. I know with R&M waiting a year and watching ones come up for sale long before yours was made is kind of annoying when you can just buy one off the market at cost. (not talking about spot sellers) Lots more of these games, they will come up for sale.