i promise both games will be much better than your rob zombie!

Eric is just consulting, Fawzma is the coder.

Bowen & Eric on R&M are kind of the dream team really.

Be interesting to see how the R&M code is rated when 100% done, as hearing it's pretty darn good already!

Lucky you Mark . I can't get into either theme, so it's back to waiting for Fathom for me and seeing what else comes out.

Yeh, leaning Ultraman though.

As usual these get announced overnight here , and by the time you get home from work there's 800 + posts .
I saw both of the videos and I think they look fun and an interesting layout .
I do like how Michael Myers jumps out from behind the bushes .
I think it will take a while to sell all the Halloween pins but I think Ultraman will sell out on day 1 .
One thing I think spooky could improve on , is the look of their speaker panel .

I thought everyone had heard of Ultraman. How many have heard of these two? Watched them as a kid while living in Hawaii early seventies. First one is Kikaida, half man half machine. The second is Rainbow Man who could transform into seven different superhero’s depending on what the situation warranted.
Now these I can believe no one ever heard of. Lol

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They both look stunning in their own ways, with the different color schemes. I might prefer Ultraman’s vibrant colors, but Halloween is right there.

I need to now more before I pull the trigger on Ultraman. I’ve grown very weary of “battle the monster/villain” over and over games. The superhero genre is very tired for me. So if the Ultraman modes are like Deadpool’s or XMen’ or Spider-Man’s or Iron Man’s I’m probably out. I just don’t want “now fight this Godzilla poseur”, “now fight that Godzilla wanna be” rinse repeat.

While Halloween’s objectives probably can’t be all that original, at least it’s a fresh take. I thought I’d be out because of the prominent “Michael in a leatherface mask”, but the chance for a different type of objective based ruleset appeals to me.

My ceilings are too low for a topper, but i can’t see buying anything other than a CE for this one. Just for resale value alone. That Halloween topper is insane. I’ll need to determine a way to rig it on the wall or something, to enjoy it.

Also, to get your game any sooner you have to buy a CE, so there will probably be a high majority of CEs IMO.

Since we know the pin has seven balls, I'm wondering if it will stage a ball at each inlane lift mech? R&M does this but with a more traditional ball trough. STTNG did it and could even auto-stage the balls before a game started.

I’m thinking it does - looked that way in the gameplay video. I think it was a shot to the scoop?? Came out really quickly like in Rnm - certainly quicker than it could travel down the subway.

Is this a new game play video that dropped? In the release video (from yesterday) I didn't see any shot into the scoop followed by the lift to the inlane? But I hope you're right!

so the cat is out of the bag ....

what is the next Spooky pin(s)

No not new. Was the Ultraman one from today - about 16s in.

You could get some custom shorter legs?

Any chance we will see any more video today?

Ultraman and Giant Robot were awesome shows. They were staples of my childhood growing up.

You would think if they want the sales for tomorrow morning to be big. I am sure there are people like me on the fence not pulling the trigger until they see game play.

I just want to see what the BSE looks like. I'm not worried about game play, looks like fun pinball

Yeah. I think the numbers are off on this release. I’d say Ultraman has demand for 750 and Halloween maybe 1000 max. We will know for sure tomorrow what the demand is.

The main issue is it all comes down to integration and code, which we are not seeing any gameplay.

I want to play both games badly.

You guys massively underestimate the importance of theme. Halloween is more popular by a large margin. It will sell out instantly, or as fast as the website allows.

Deezer5150 Our websites have been upgraded! We've upgraded the hosting service, and brought in a website optimization specialist to smooth things out. If the main site does go down, you can still get to the shop directly at shop.spookypinball.com. If the shop site goes down, I'm afraid we'll just have to wait for the site to come back up.

I hope you're right, but I don't see it happening. R&M had a huge fan base and sold out all 750 in about four hours. But I don't see Halloween's fan base as large as is for R&M, plus there's 1250 pins, plus there's an additional 500 for Ultraman which will pull sales from Halloween. Now Ultraman selling out all 500 quickly seems much more likely. Regardless, I'm in for Halloween!

How bout a quick vid on some play ? Even 5 minutes or so would push me over to buying.

I agree with all of your reasoning, but I also think there are those that feel like they missed out on Rick & Morty. I'm wondering if that fear alone will makeup for the extra supply.

Game play footage please Spooky!

+1 on some more video.

I'm torn on themes. Both are appealing but I'm thinking the music and ambience will be better on Halloween. A little bit more gameplay footage, or even audio from different modes, would help clear that up some!

just get Bowen in front of the games for 10 minutes so we can watch

I vote that if you are on the fence get a HWN. Not enough UM for those that are "on the fence" save them for us that are going to be refreshing constantly 45 minutes before sales start.

What he means is for the people who claim 'bolted to the floor' then MAYBE play them for 30 days before trying to sell them at a premium. So many people already making the usual statements of 'rare', which we know exactly what that means.

Also, could we get a matrix grid showing the different trim/models?

Anyone wishing to order Halloween or Ultraman from PinballSTAR (Spooky distributor) we ask that you send us an email today to [email protected] to get on our email blast list so at 9am CST tomorrow you get the 'ORDER NOW' email.. In that email you'll have a one click Paypal button to use to pay and get in quick and easy... I'm getting a ton of emails asking about our process to order and wanted to put this out there for folks as we are not doing phone, text, or website ordering - just via our email link. Looking forward to a glorious Spooky day tomorrow ! They killed it !

We made up this pic for our FB page too - pretty cool to have them both side by side ! lol

Email us today to get on our list for tomorrow...

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I can't play like Bowen, but I'd be happy to make the hour drive to Spooky this afternoon with a tripod and camera and take some footage

And then put him in front of it for another 800 hours to make the game rules as deep as Rick and Morty hahaha.

I bet both sell out tomorrow.

While all of this would be nice, they dont need to. Both games are going to sellout in no time.

I think the pinball market is way hotter now than it was in December 2019 when Rick and Morty hit the market. There is far more demand than supply for NIB games. I think Ultraman will be the first to sell out, but I expect both games to sell quickly!

Those that think Halloween will be around for months...even days, after tomorrow, are going to be disappointed. Neither of the 2 games will be around past this week, I feel pretty certain.

I don’t think Japan gives two shits about pinball. They’ve seized on many American fads and institutions over the years. It’s not like they don’t understand American culture. Maybe Ultraman will change that. For a minute.

I believe it was Bug that came in and said that with these rules you're going to know exactly what you need to do with the challenge of doing it to perfection. You might be able to reach the mini-wizard mode in the first week of owning the game, but what's going to keep you hitting the start button is doing it perfectly. That sound like some of my favorite games from the Bally / Williams era, so I'm excited.

9k plus shipping is a big decision that I would rather make after seeing and hearing some gameplay footage.

Can you help us out Spooky Luke?

I won't be surprised if neither is available from Spooky past the first two hours... But they'll be around at extreme markup prices for months and years to come!

Agreed, they absolutely do not have to do this. But Spooky does a lot of things that set them apart from other manufacturers and this could be yet another move to solidify confidence in the brand and the new titles.

Someone has to say it, it’s kind of important. Think about how mad people were about Munsters. That really hurt confidence in Stern. A lot of people swore off buying NIB games to wait until code developed. Some of those games had to then be purchased on the secondary market for higher price tags. Then the manufacturer lost those dollars. Same thing with RaM. People waited cause they weren’t sure about rules/code...once it developed and it was clear the game had heavily developed code those people had to buy spots secondarily for crazy markups. Thousands and thousands of dollars that Spooky missed out on. Just sayin’ I’m not spouting off about this to be rude. I just think it’s a valid concern as most of these games will end up in a home use environment and a lot of home players really want games they can sink their teeth into and games that aren’t easily/ quickly completed. That’s all. On the other hand there are a lot of people that love the simpler BW games but let’s be honest... Those were designed for specifically for location play and at least for me they get very old when you can rip through to the wizard mode and roll it on a hot 20 min game. We can just do so much more with modern games. Again, these are just my opinions. No need to hate me for it.

Did they put up pricing yet?

Valid.

Yeah like a week or so ago.

Based on YouTube current views I think the total number of games per title is smart...

10,206 views on YouTube for Ultraman
25,221 views on YouTube Halloween

roughly 2.5x more views for Halloween...

500 Ultraman pins... 1250 Halloween pins... going by this logic they hit the numbers pretty perfectly.