I realize now my initial reaction to TLJ last night was solely based on my own pre-conceived expectations mainly built around Luke.
Today as I reflect on the flick, their are holes in it (as always) but I better appreciate the twists, the risks taken (for once in a long time), and ultimately the resolution for my fav character.
Like it or not, the franchise needed a refreshing kick.
Thank goodness.

Darth Maul a more compelling villian than Kylo/Ben Solo's character? Whaaat?!
Disagree.

Anyway, Episode One did the worst damage of ANY of the films in two ways:
explaining Anakins backstory through immaculate conception and the worst offense- ruining the magic of the force itself through midichlorians.

Say what you want for Episode 8, but it's a middle chapter that was ultimately left wide open.
It's taken almost 20 years to clean the mess Episode one left behind.

And where the f did Nien Nunb go?
I mean he was there for the big Resistance meeting and then disappears only to show up in the Falcon at the end of the movie.

Man, save the galaxy once and you sure get a big head.
Jerk.

Remember when this trilogy was announced how exciting it was with JJ?
Rehash or not, it worked.
Pretty quiet in JJ Abrams front now.
The handlers have him muzzled to somehow save the ship again.

You live in SD?
Be happy Disney didn’t pay to have ringleader Katherine Kennedys face on Mt Rushmore yet.

On second viewing I did notice the Jedi texts placed on board the Falcon in the drawer. Have no idea who put them there, Rey or Yoda.
Doesn’t really matter.

Is there ANTHING this Rey character CANT do naturally? Any real meaningful test for her at all?
Terrible.

So let me ask the group, is their one plot point or storyline item you feel JJ could fix to save this franchise?

This thing is pretty torched.

Yeah and I thought a whole lot more Bothans would be dying to bring that information, not some abandoned girl and her...
wait...
I see a SW pattern here.

The sad truth is all the money in the world cant buy stories with a clear vision. (Unlike the MU)
It will take several failed attempts at expanding (or recycling) the SW universe to discover no one is invested in it.
My jug of nostalgia is passed its expiration date.

Ahh Boba Fett, another cool SW character whose mysticism got blown to bits when we got the lil Boba and papa Jango making clone army men storyline bs.
But make another movie, reboot it all.

Someone shared a similar sentiment, but when people say new SW offerings are “decent” it just reinforces the fact that the helium has been outta this balloon since 1983.

I saw DP last night, not as perfect as first but good.
I’ll wait on Solo, can’t waste money and calories for nachos with an ICEE on that one.

WTF did Disney even release these two massive movies so close together?
Someone in that decision tree over there has to
go - dumb.

I’d be interested in an Old Republic Series if they actually pump up the mythology and characters.

Before the prequels started, I was excited we would actually see the Clone Wars old Ben was yammering on about!!

Instead we got a CGI candy bowl full of droid factory’s, Gladiator pits, and Jango army men.

Lol
No force Luke sucked.
Probably too late but any flashback, ghosty, or reincarnated Luke has to be better than this...
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Ive been reading similar about Palpatine influencing ep9 by tying in prequels. Remember he did mention creation of life to Anakin in ROTS.
Wouldn’t be a bad idea given they’ve already pissed off fans, killed off the main villain, and have little time for a new one to salvage this whole thing.

The verdict was in after the first cap marvel trailer, the story and actress didn’t sell me.
Had a feeling the nonsense would follow as a result - now confirmed.

Really have enjoyed supporting the marvel output, but time for reality check on this one.

At one point a “Shadows of the Empire” Chewie figure was made with battle axe and eye patch. Just an example of the rich extended universe content developed after ROTJ that could have been tapped for this trilogy.

Instead this legacy character is placed into a scene where he is meat shamed by a porg.

Wtf

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Heard they destroyed a classic Bally in CM.
Not surprised. Nothing seems off limits.

This stuff is getting pretty laughable.
Maybe it’s like video cameras, they fit in the pocket now!
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Vader used to be badass.. now used as a desperate prop out to the fan base..
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What?!
That trailer didn’t pull on the last nostalgic strings of our SW fandom!?

What does Disney resort to now?!
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good summary from the man himself!

Yep. This company excels at rehashing stories and tapping the veins.... over and over and..
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Just say no.

Do we close in on how we feel EP9 will perform? Flop or does this thing redeem itself?
More SJW plot rumors out there, hope these are not true.

Seems any type of real reflection would only come from another franchise mouse turd at the box office.
Probably unlikely at this point.
Kennedy is a real piece of work.

Menace was better than clones. It’s issue was killing off both of the best new characters too soon.
Always thought simply having more prequel aliens speak alien vs English would have changed perceptions as well.

Very eerie how little awareness or hype exists around a movie this big with less than ten days to go..

No JJ fanboy or really care but he received a TLJ shit sandwich. Critics loved that turd so reviews hold no value. I don’t know what’s salvageable to get an audience invested in the fate of these characters.

Agree. This one was o-k.
In retrospect, the prequels were a better written trilogy. This one did remind me of ROTS in that it’s all you really need as a stand alone flick.

Well, this new trilogy did help me discover I’m lactose intolerant.

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Yep. They killed the nostalgia golden goose over time with badly written stories, little respect for legacy characters, and too much of it overall. The marvel/sw content got worse and now people are just burned out.
They made out ok, no tears for Disney.