OP

Quoted from InfiniteLives:

//FLAME SUIT ON
Wow, what a bad movie. I am clearly a big fan of star wars and went to the 1 am showing when I work at 8 am.
Spoiler Alert, turn back now if you havent seen it or do not want any spoilers
From start to finish it was just bad.
I'll try to break it down chronologically
Exhibit A:
So at the beginning the First Order tracks down the Rebels, yadda yadda yadda, then they TRACK THEM THROUGH LIGHT SPEED / HYPERSPACE
and everyone is like, wow that is impossible! but they never deavle into the details of just how that was pulled off. stupid.
Exhibit B:
The Rey with Luke stuff was pretty blah. Just was. Nothing really came out of it.
EDIT: EXHIBIT C1: How could I forget about this one haha. When the rebel ships bridge gets blown up and Leia is floating in space, instead of freezing to death, running out of O2, or whatever would actually happen, she used the force to float back to an entrance of the ship and get back in. I was in disbelief at how bad that scene was.
Exhibit C2:
The whole Finn and, I think Rose?, going to some Casino town to get help was not great. I feel like they only added this stuff to check off the box of weird animals and puppet aliens. Then they meet some random guy who is going to be their code breaker who betrays them and it all just seemed so forced.
BONUS WTF MOMENT:
They try and go to Maz for help. Like why? what is her role.
Exhibit D:
Snoke! Like What the actual F&^K. He is the Supreme Leader. He tapped into the force to get Rey and Kylo to see and talk to each other. No back story on who he is/was and how he came to power. Super powerful in the force then gets cleaved in halve without ever fighting. We see a glimpse of his power with some lightning he jams at Kylo and that is it. Like what was the point of his existence other than to be "bad guy number 1" He was super strong with the force so he had to be around during 4,5,6 days but just nothing about his back story and hes gone. LAME
Exhibit E:
Speaking of being really strong in the force. Kylo stopped a blaster bullet in mid air in episode 7. Then in the fight with the elite guards after Snoke was killed he doesnt even use a single force push or choke or anything. You would think this kid could crush skulls with his mind. meh
Exhibit F:
Oh, the whole "Rey, your parents come from nothing, just a bunch of junk finders." Way to kill another plot point.
Exhibit G:
Well, so Force Ghost Yoda comes and visits Luke to give some advice. If they are going to use Force Ghosts and Vader came back to the Light Side as a force ghost, why wouldnt he just tell Kylo to quit being a D bag. But that is not related to this movie. What is questionable is that Yoda blows up the Jedi teachings, but alas, at the end we see Rey had taken all the old texts. Like Yoda and Luke couldnt sense that or what? Whatever.
Exhibit H:
Why not have droid manned ships just light speed thru all the star destoryers, or heck, the death star, anything really and blow them up. slippery slope.
Exhibit I:
The part of the movie that I thought was the best was Luke projecting himself in front of Kylo and that whole fight/exchange. Super cool to finally see some of Lukes ultimate power. Oh wait, then he died right after. lame.
Sprinkle in some bad jokes for laughs and what not. bravo. made a star wars worse than the prequels.
I probably will never watch this episode again, and for sure not going to see the next one at a midnight showing. Very disappointing
EDIT: added these things to first post so all my rage is listed here:
Addendum 1: Ending episode 7 on a cliff hanger with Rey anding Luke his lightsabre, then Luke tossing it over his shoulder for a cheap laugh in E8
Addendum 2: Showing Chewie eating those cute little critters for no reason, kinda messed up to portray a beloved character that way.
Addendum 3: Just a terrible plot device as "running out of gas" as being the big event that is causing all the turmoil.

OP

Quoted from InfiniteLives:

Down to 57% on rotten tomatoes with 63,933 reviews as of 12/15/2017 1:12 PM Mountain
Metacritic is just from Critics, not the general public. Apparently the critics love this movie as it is 93% at Rotten Tomatoes where the general public is at 57%. I personally think the general audience rating is a better indication than the critics who get paid to do it and could have an agenda.

It was such a bad scene, and shot so poorly. It looked really dumb how she did it and yeah, she hadn't done s&^T with the force previously.

Glad you liked it. Did you find yourself not liking anything in particular, or pretty much on board with the whole movie? Just curious as everyone I've talked to in person has had similar, maybe not as negative but def not a glowing review, view as myself.

OP

Quoted from InfiniteLives:

12/17/2019 Edited thread title to include The Rise of Skywalker to being discussed
12/7/2018 Edited thread title to encompass a more broad range of the topics being discussed
6/1/2018 Edited thread title to make it more relevant to current discussion
//FLAME SUIT ON
Wow, what a bad movie. I am clearly a big fan of star wars and went to the 1 am showing when I work at 8 am.
Spoiler Alert, turn back now if you havent seen it or do not want any spoilers
From start to finish it was just bad.
I'll try to break it down chronologically
Exhibit A:
So at the beginning the First Order tracks down the Rebels, yadda yadda yadda, then they TRACK THEM THROUGH LIGHT SPEED / HYPERSPACE
and everyone is like, wow that is impossible! but they never deavle into the details of just how that was pulled off. stupid.
Exhibit B:
The Rey with Luke stuff was pretty blah. Just was. Nothing really came out of it.
EDIT: EXHIBIT C1: How could I forget about this one haha. When the rebel ships bridge gets blown up and Leia is floating in space, instead of freezing to death, running out of O2, or whatever would actually happen, she used the force to float back to an entrance of the ship and get back in. I was in disbelief at how bad that scene was.
Exhibit C2:
The whole Finn and, I think Rose?, going to some Casino town to get help was not great. I feel like they only added this stuff to check off the box of weird animals and puppet aliens. Then they meet some random guy who is going to be their code breaker who betrays them and it all just seemed so forced.
BONUS WTF MOMENT:
They try and go to Maz for help. Like why? what is her role.
Exhibit D:
Snoke! Like What the actual F&^K. He is the Supreme Leader. He tapped into the force to get Rey and Kylo to see and talk to each other. No back story on who he is/was and how he came to power. Super powerful in the force then gets cleaved in halve without ever fighting. We see a glimpse of his power with some lightning he jams at Kylo and that is it. Like what was the point of his existence other than to be "bad guy number 1" He was super strong with the force so he had to be around during 4,5,6 days but just nothing about his back story and hes gone. LAME
Exhibit E:
Speaking of being really strong in the force. Kylo stopped a blaster bullet in mid air in episode 7. Then in the fight with the elite guards after Snoke was killed he doesnt even use a single force push or choke or anything. You would think this kid could crush skulls with his mind. meh
Exhibit F:
Oh, the whole "Rey, your parents come from nothing, just a bunch of junk finders." Way to kill another plot point.
Exhibit G:
Well, so Force Ghost Yoda comes and visits Luke to give some advice. If they are going to use Force Ghosts and Vader came back to the Light Side as a force ghost, why wouldnt he just tell Kylo to quit being a D bag. But that is not related to this movie. What is questionable is that Yoda blows up the Jedi teachings, but alas, at the end we see Rey had taken all the old texts. Like Yoda and Luke couldnt sense that or what? Whatever.
Exhibit H:
Why not have droid manned ships just light speed thru all the star destoryers, or heck, the death star, anything really and blow them up. slippery slope.
Exhibit I:
The part of the movie that I thought was the best was Luke projecting himself in front of Kylo and that whole fight/exchange. Super cool to finally see some of Lukes ultimate power. Oh wait, then he died right after. lame.
Sprinkle in some bad jokes for laughs and what not. bravo. made a star wars worse than the prequels.
I probably will never watch this episode again, and for sure not going to see the next one at a midnight showing. Very disappointing
EDIT: added these things to first post so all my rage is listed here:
Addendum 1: Ending episode 7 on a cliff hanger with Rey anding Luke his lightsabre, then Luke tossing it over his shoulder for a cheap laugh in E8
Addendum 2: Showing Chewie eating those cute little critters for no reason, kinda messed up to portray a beloved character that way.
Addendum 3: Just a terrible plot device as "running out of gas" as being the big event that is causing all the turmoil.
Addendum 4:If they are just tracking the main ship, uh duh, warp to hyperspace in the other ships and stay alive and save your fleet. derrr
Addendum 5: Do the knights of ren even exist in this story anymore?
Addendum 6: The entire start of Ep 7 is about the map fragment to find Luke, who doesnt want to be found cause he has a sweet spear fishing spot with fresh, non-pasteurized alien tit milk all to himself!