Just got around to watching Jedi on blu-ray which shows how low the series has fallen in my eyes it’s the first SW film I had not seen at the theatre.

Of the last three I think Rogue was the best but (IMO) could have let the main characters escape so they could expand their stories in future films as I thought the main characters of that were great.

This last film messed up should have let Leia die and Luke live. What the hell are they supposed to do with Carrie Fisher no longer you know alive? Leia could have done some heroic Ben Kenobi act to allow the rebellion to escape whatnot.

I’m not sure why Luke dies at the end? Maybe he’ll be some ghost in the next movie but it was all quite a mess and I don’t really care about it anymore. At least Marvel is still making great movies.

I mean ‘The last Jedi’, it was bad although the special effects were good.

Can’t believe how badly they treated Po and was expecting Benito Del Toro to do a triple cross somehow.

It just was very meh to me.

Disney is making these movies just to make money just like the PotC movies.

I wish they had a great vision and made a ton of movies like they are doing with Marvel: Avengers, Iron Man, Thor, CA, BP, Strange etc.. they are all great imo.

This SW stuff is like the Hobbit moves like they say let’s make 3 films don’t care about how bad it is, people will spend money because it’s TH or SW.

If they had given John Favru or someone like that control like they have with Kevin Feige (Marvel), it seems like they are a all being made by different people with different ideas, they change directors too often, like maybe that’s half the problem.

I was never crazy with the idea of reviving Carrie Fisher for anything she was an old washed up lady. So she made some good movies 30-40 years ago. That was then this is now.

Exactly and putting in the old geasers like Carrie Fisher and Mark Hammel and even Ford all three are about retired for all intents. But just put them in in their old age doesn’t do it for me.

I don't think that will work because Disney is great and will still make a profit (like PotC).

Hopefully Boba Fett is transexual.

Can’t we say bad Star Wars movies are better than no Star Wars moves?

correct Marvel (avengers etc) has had 18 films in the last 10 years no fatigue because the films are (arguably) good.

Just this year Black Panther, AV3 and Ant-man will gross $4B (worldwide) projected.

I'm aware that SW will still make money, but if the quality does not improve, they will be on the PotC like curve.

There's a chance we can get some great movie in the future look at Spider-man had a few bad movies. But I'm glad they didn't just stop after the first trilogy.

I’m wondering why Kennedy was put in charge of SW. I’d love to see Jon Favreau for example take over.

EDIT: I now see why Kennedy was hired.

Here's something I didn't realize that the problem with SW is that white and straight men have directed all the movies.

can you believe this stuff?

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/star-wars/news/a851850/star-wars-fans-arent-happy-jon-favreau-announcement-international-womens-day/

You're either ignoring us or prioritizing these white dudes. Both are bad looks. Do better, Star Wars. Let women of color be in charge of major stories in the franchise, especially because I would trust them more to hire WoC/diverse directors, writers, producers.

I hope the Favreau hires inclusively. I don't even trust D&D from GoT to hire other white women, so they're out. I just... I wanted better for this franchise that women of color love and support with equal measure.

I love Jon Favreau's work, so this is not a knock on him, but @Disney announcing yet another white guy to head up a Star Wars project is pissing me off. And to make the announcement on #InternationalWomensDay is pretty tone-deaf overall.

shame on Disney for ruining women's day as well as SW.

My wife liked it but she also liked TLJ. I won’t see it until it comes out on Netflix.

How come we’re not seeing Marvel fatigue?

How come every PotC movie has gone down in box office in subsequent releases even when they are spaced years apart? It’s not how close together the movies are released it’s that they are not good movies.

Dr Strange, Thor, Ant Man Captain America etc.. are minor movies with sub $200M budgets with the exception of Civil War $250M which was more like Avengers lite. Black Panther $200M budget, Ant-Man $130M.

The only Marvel movies close to Solo are the Avengers movies with a half dozen major stars. Solo had a colossal production budget and won’t probably pass Dr Strange in worldwide box office. Partly is like the director fired and rewriting and all which is never a good sign. I’m sure the budget was way more than they were initially starting with since R1 was also $200M and Solo is not a major movie like the trilogy so should be more in line with the minor Marvel movies like Black Panther and Thor etc.

I haven’t seen Solo but I’m betting it’s better than TLJ but that is not saying too much.

I read $300M Solo budget but it’s not official that I can see.

I think Solo did $10M in China while Avengers Infinity did like $170M opening week in China.

Agree, and Infinity did over $330M in China the most ever by a foreign film while it's all but impossible for Solo to break $300M for total world (minus US market).

http://deadline.com/2018/05/solo-a-star-wars-story-opening-weekend-deadpool-2-avengers-infinity-war-china-global-international-box-office-1202398686/

this standalone spinoff had a disappointing overseas bow of $68.2M in 54 material markets which represent 88% of the offshore footprint
Rogue One opened in December 2016 with $178M in like-for-like markets and at today’s rates. Solo came in $110M below that.
Disney/Marvel’s juggernaut added $32.5M in 36 material markets this weekend to bring the offshore cume to $1.283B and the global take to $1,904.7M.

I hope Disney is not too dumb to see the results. Not saying one movie is a trend, but if the last part of the trilogy bombs, I hope they can reboot the franchise. I don't expect Disney to give up, I mean this is still a good name brand franchise and probably has good merch for them.

It's too early to give up on SW but I hope they can learn and get better going forward.

SW did survive the infamous Christmas special and hopefully in time we can ignore or forget some of the lesser movies they are making like TLJ.

The studio only gets like 50% of the box office so they’d need $700M to break even but will have other merchandise and disc sales and streaming lisense. But it’s really a bad showing when it won’t likely pass Dr Strange worldwide.

In China the film is called ‘Ranger Solo’ which is a really bad name, the Star Wars story was dropped from the title because of how bad SW flopped there apparently, but I can not believe it would have done *worse* than it actually did there.

I had read they were putting Chinese actors in to get more international audience like R1 had but the characters were not great and they all died anyway. I wonder if that was why they put in the Asian girl in TLJ or not.

I'm glad that Solo is doing poorly, it may not even be a bad movie and I hope that I like it but I don't want Disney to be rewarded after TLJ movie.

My wife and kids saw Solo, said it was good, and they rarely go to the movies. But casual movie goers seem to go because it is SW. My wife and kids saw all the new SW films in the theatre, wife didn't think there was anything wrong with TLJ, so there are people who just go to see it for a special effect's movie and don't think too much about if the story is good or bad.

There will be some walk in traffic just because it's SW and the film is hyped on TV (commercials that add to the cost by the way) a good movie doesn't need as many commercials. So double whammy they will get more people in the seats but costs money to do so.

I really don't know why Solo had to cost so much, there are no major stars like Harrison Ford to pay a ton of money to. It's like John Carter movie or Lone Ranger movies costing $300 Million when Deadpool 1 and 2 costs $60M and $110M respectively, Jumanji costs $90M
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going back to TLJ the poor treatment of Poe was been because he’s a man, because the actor is actually a minority (Guatemalan/Cuban-American).

True the original SW was not female dominant believe only two woman were in A new hope and the original trilogy (minus Leia has just 63 seconds of dialogue by females). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/star-wars--a-new-hope/female-lines-original-trilogy/

But now it seems that every other character has to be a woman, a woman stormtrooper for little apparent reason except to show women are capable of bossing around men.

Maybe (just maybe) the SW universe is male dominated, I’m not saying that’s a good thing but it’s a fictional universe but that many cultures have been. Look at Mad Men tv show which has men in position of power and look at most military movies like ‘300’ or ‘Gladiator’ etc..

It doesn’t make sense if you were to put equal numbers of women those above examples.

I don’t have a problem putting strong women in movies/TV shows look at Wonder Woman, Black Widow in Avengers, the warriors in Black Panther and the strong woman leads in TWD.

I just don’t like it being crammed down my throat because we have a woman/minority inequality in Hollywood, so now most leads should be women or minorities in SW.

Marvel universe (not counting Deadpool) will have 7 films in two years.

To me this poor reception of Solo reminds me of when The Lone Ranger was such a flop that Disney delayed Pirates of the Caribbean several years to distance it from the Lone Ranger failure. Instead of doing that Disney doubled down on SW.

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this guy is a little too into the death of Star Wars but he's not wrong about TLJ.

here is sales of BluRay down almost in half of what TFA did, and box office numbers down $700M from TFA.

Meanwhile Avengers Infinity is passing $2B worldwide after Black Panther $1.3B+

Of course Solo is bombing horribly at the box-office. I didn't even see Solo but the point is hard core fans are voting with their wallets.

Agree also even superhero and mythological figures have a weakness. Heck the better heroes are like Frodo, Dorothy or Harry Potter who are not great and powerful but overcome their weaknesses.

It’s just to me like the creators wanted to add woman characters and minimize male characters either for marketing or to push an alternative agenda.

They deliberately turn their back on core audiences because the figure their super fans will pay either way and instead want to get the feminist and other audience.

Looking at Boxofficemojo Solo will take 3 weeks to pass TFA first 2 days domestic total and (my estimate) will not pass the opening weekend 3 day total of TFA.

They’re saying Solo had ~$150 million in marketing as I’m sure did TFA if not more.

Not a problem when you’re pulling down $2Bilion but not good when gross revenue is $450M.

My wife and kids saw The Incredibles 2 last night said they loved it. I’m interested to see what kind of numbers it does it’s already doubled the previous record for Thursday animated movie (Finding Dory).

I agree we’re at 8 Fast and Furious movies and counting.

I’ve yet to see Solo but I think the idea is people are skipping it not because of burn out or because it’s a bad film but moreso because of TLJ was so bad. Heck The Hobbit movies were horrible and yet they all made nearly $1B each.

But TLJ was really “the last straw” for many.

Compared to Solo R1 has 2.5x as much domestic box office at the same date. That really says something.

Anyway as I said not seen Solo yet but before it came out when I saw the trailers and read that Lando was pan sexually and the director change etc. I could only think of the real Han Solo this quote

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Remake TLJ is actually interesting, don’t know if it’ll happen but can you imagine a new cut that’s significantly different and better? Don’t think that’s ever happened before but I could be wrong.

It was interesting having several different versions of a film sort of Blade Runner for example.

Apocalypse Now has this as well.

I’d love to see a movie being filmed and then edited together as different interpretations.

But with a massive blockbuster it can’t happen due to everything costing 100x more than necessary.

I’m curious too if Disney was to re-release the film and it was a hit what is the downside? I mean it would cost peanuts to re edit it any maybe could bring in as much as Solo has done (maybe more)? The great majority of the money is spent making the footage (I’m not sure anyone is saying re-shoot the film).

Leia dies out in space, Luke doesn’t die.

I'd love to see an improved version.

I never heard of The Hobbit edits but they make a lot of sense to cut out 60% of the crap.

But wha?

He was in 10 seconds of first movie and now Carie Fisher is dead don’t it make more sense to have Mark in this film?

I hope they don’t do all that CGI Leia but who gives a crap anymore.

I was thinking that same thing like ‘Inception’ whatnot.

But what about Marvel? How is Marvel so good?

It makes me realize it’s not the subject that makes a movie good because LotR good Hobbit bad.

Toby Maguire SM good, Andrew Garfield SM bad.

Batman all over the map.

really?

Does it have the alien milk drinking scene? I know Lucas/SW likes to put odd aliens in the movies, but this was just ridiculous.

I actually didn't mind Poe's "You Momma" jokes half as much as some of the folks, but the progs and many alien creatures on the island were just stupid.

I can actually see episode 9 doing half what TFA did at box office.

IMO (to be honest) Disney should just re edit TLJ even reshoot it a bit and make like the original never existed. People would probably go see TLJ redux and it would reset episode 9. But it’ll never happen.

I wanted to ask something regarding SW (and compare the domestic box-office numbers)

TFA $936M
R1 $532M
TLJ $620M
Solo $205M

GOTG $333M
The Avengers $623M
IM3 $409M
Ant-Man $180M
Ultron $459M
Dr Strange $232M
Ragnorok $315M
GOTG2 $389M
Black Panther $699M
Infinity $671M

I have a few questions/observations

- Solo has a poor box office (no doubt) but it's not out of line with lesser Marvel movies (domestic)
but the Marvel movies cost a lot less to produce and make much more overseas

-The SW movies obviously TFA did super domestically better than any Marvel movie. I am curious, this has to be due in part to super fans seeing it opening weekend but also has to be due to a lot of repeat viewings. I wonder now if this was wishful thinking, did these super fans really like it enough to watch it multiple times and if so do they still like it after TLJ letdown?

-TLJ significant drop from TFA but that did happen with Ultron too so surely that could be expected because the buildup was not as great for the second movie.

-R1 was a good movie and did well, compare it to IM3 or GOTG2 whatnot, it did well. I think Disney thought Solo would do better just because it was a SW movie and it really crashed in that regard compared to R1

Black Panther actually did better domestically than Avengers Infinity. I didn't really know that, and it's still possible for Infinity to close the gap, but I'm not sure if it will pass BP. Also shows that Marvel fatigue is not a thing and if TLJ was good SW fatigue would not be a thing either

104 minutes apparently

I started to watch but was streaming and I had a bad lip sync. While I like the idea of fan edit, there is only so much that can be done. Don't like the momma jokes it just skips 1-2 minutes ahead. I'd rather just watch a good movie than watch a bad movie that is edited down to make it somewhat less bad.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

It is amazing that people will spend such time on a crappy movie.

As Bill would say:

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Billy Dee is 81 years old.

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And Gunn is getting all kinds of support ? (jokes? Hard to justify those as jokes).

domestic total was ~ = first 2 day total of TFA domestic

I guess pan-sexual Lando only get you so far.

Worked ok for this movie almost 80 years ago.

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I just watched Phantom Menace for the first time since it came out on DVD so basically been 13 years so I didn’t remember it all.

Have to say this is one bad movie, the acting was bad even from the big name actors, but the no name such as Annikan and his mom are cringe worthy. Jar Jar is as bad as I remember and especially during the battle sequences where he had a blaster stuck to his foot and basically the gag is every time he takes a step he kills another droid.

There was one saving grace to the movie, I suppose the light saber battle with Darth Maul.

I really can’t understand why the plot line had the queen being impersonated by her body guard, except as a plot device to have queen slumming around on Tantooine. It’s not like there was an attempt on her life where the plot twist would have made us go ahh, and then at the end she just tells everyone so it doesn’t make any sense.

As for queen and Anikan’s blossoming affair, it just seems creepy.

Finally Anikin is such a weak actor, but then having him fly inadvertently onto a battleship and destroy it and escape is even too much for Star Wars which has a lot of such weak plausible momemts.

Then we have R2D2 who is like a miracle worker in every movie and C3PO don’t get me started.

I’m still going to venture into the other two sequels but tell me do they get any better at all?

Can we not?

I’d wish these images be deleted from the thread, I do not want to see such images.

I appreciate that was posted as a sample example to condem the perpetrators but can be deleted (imo) this is not a forum for such images.

Thank you.

Ant man and Wasp is ahead of Solo by $50m+ global without even China opening and first Ant man did over $100M in China.

Ant man is also 5 weeks less release than Solo so it’s likely to top solo by 50% or more.

Just finished episode 2.

Overall better than Episode 1, good action.

Could someone give me a reading list if I wanted to get into the SW book universe? I don’t know where to start.

I just saw Antman and Wasp. It was ok, not great but shows that Marvel can bring along an average movie to good box office results. It’s not world beating but I’d estimate between $5-600 million worldwide when it’s said and done.

I’m worried that these books are described as YA (young adult) reading.

I may be better served with some other science fiction writing for adults?

I agree, prequels were ok

TFA was ok

R1 was better than ok except CGI dead actor actor (IMO)

TLJ = IJ4

I'll look them up. I was used to reading the golden age SFF books.

Character development is like Spiderman weak kid, gets powers, doesn’t use power to stop criminal, criminal kills uncle etc.

It’s storytelling 101, look at Dorothy, Bilbo Baggins, Karate Kid etc.

The character development should drive the story, not used as a magic bullet to solve a problem.

Simply amazing they can’t get a good script, the trilogy should have been planned out in advance.

It always astounds me when real bad movies are made. But happens quite a lot even with good directors (see Godfather 3 - Coppola and IJ4 Spielberg).

It would have been one thing if TLJ was just ok, but it was actively bad. Then you have series like Harry Potter or Marvel movies which all seem to be good. Something like GOT TV show probably has less budget for a whole season and puts out *much* better material.

I thought R1 was pretty good.

Needs a hard reboot like Spider-man.

Sometimes, when a movie has to be re shot after it's 60% done or whatever? I think it'd be better to just start completely over from square one, I mean throw away everything and re-cast whatever. It would cost 2x (filming 2 movies) but it might be covered at the box-office. Re-filming half a movie is like throwing good money after bad.

Of course that may not have changed anything if they wanted to put in robot love or whatever they felt was needed for their metro- demographic they are among for.

You’re ruining the boycott.

I don't understand this, is there no one else that would take the job?

They should have hired Lucas like when Apple brought Steve Jobs back.

I have two observations

1) casual fans don't hate the movies, my wife saw all 4 of the new movies in the theatre and liked them and she will like the Disney Theme park. My kids love Avatar world and have never even seen the movie.

2) if TLJ is a dead end, they could just reboot that film (entirely re made with none of the SJW aspects) and re-release the movie. Probably do a billion just out of curiosity. They can let Lea die early on and let Luke take a bigger role cut out a lot of the dumb scenes and characters. Then film 9 can have a chance to be worthwhile.

Blade Runner 2049 was kind fairly good.

Classic.

That’s my point. I prefer the first but the sequel reboot was very good/great. I might not call it a masterpiece but it didn’t disappoint.

Very hard to see this as I do watch a lot of sequels but not many beat the original. Godfather 2 is really not a sequel because it’s a two part movie. Don’t get me started on godfather 3.

I’m a much bigger MCU fan than SW, seen them all in theatres and at home.

Anyway, imo maybe I’m being sexist or not PC but to me female movie goers probably like to see good looking guys such as Most of the MCU male leads (lots of good looking guys) and they probably pull in a good demographic of female audience because of this. I have not seen the female ghostbusters movie but my impression is they put in Liam Hemsworth for his sex appeal to presumably mostly female audience. Guy movie goers don’t mind having a lot of female characters in the movies but probably would prefer them to have some sex appeal. I’m not saying they should be all SI swimsuit models, but Scarlet Johansson and Gwennith Paltrow are not bad to look at. To me they need to have somewhat sex appeal for the guy audiences. Hence why I don’t watch the female Ghostbusters movie.

I’ve not seen Captain Marvel but so far as costume they seem to be covering as much skin as possible so as to make her not a sex object, just a strong female hero. IMO this reeks of PC agenda. I’m holding off judgment at least they didn’t cast Leslie Jones or Mellisa McCarthy as the lead. Brie Larson is an attractive actress so there is something there but I’m not sure if they will super downplay her looks. Almost like she’s being hidden, might as well be in SWAT suit.

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I had not looked at Boxoffice mojo for a while but just did to see how Solo performed at the boxoffice

Worldwide $392M which is below Mama Mia (here we go again), below Tron Leagacy (2010) $400M, Batman (1989), The Kings Speach $414M.

Less than 20% of the cumulative total of The Force Awakens.

The $17M budget film released this year (I never heard of) ‘A Quiet Place’ has a cumulative total of $340M.

Ok.

I love those actors.

I was seeing a lot of horror movies (like Don’t Breath or Get Out) are made for pennies compared to big blockbuster movies.

I wish Hollywood could make good movies without just throwing a ton of money and still making crappy movies.

just watched Solo, I think it was a very bad movie.

I hated just about everything about it. But particularly Han was so weak, he was trying to act cool but the actor was just not able to pull it off. Lando was also very bad with the droid love. The card playing scenes were particularly bad like omg bad. Overall a total bomb. I did like Chewie more than anything and Woody was ok as an actor but the character was meh. I feel like Solo failed on it's own merits not even counting how bad TLJ was. I mean if Solo had bene a very good movie it would have done good at the box-office but it was really bad.

Overall of the new films I though Rogue was good, TFA was not bad. TLJ was bad and Solo was horrible.

don't know if this has been posted yet.

Yes the trailers are super meh. Like now they are showing the real super heroes like IM and Captain America in the trailer to get eyes. I was fast forwarding the commercials and saw IM so I backed it up to see if it was an Avengers trailer.

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/02/20/iron-man-captain-america-thor-appear-new-captain-marvel-tv-spot/

You’re forgetting Nattile Portman.

Looks horrible.

What’s next Tony Stark will be hit with a sexual harassment suite? I am sure if we look back into IM 1 or 2 there was some sexually inappropriate moments (shame).

IMO Disney is not sorry it bought SW franchise.

Mostly the movies are a hit, I don’t mean ‘Avatar like’ hit but $5B gross for 4 movies. Two theme lands opening in Disneyland and Disney World. Plus the 9th installment of the main SW franchise which I predict will be above TLJ can we agree that JJ >>> Rain Johnson.

Then the Disney streaming will be out soon with new content needed.

Ok am I just dense or do people actually play cards like that? I mean playing for $$$$$$$$ big stacks and not really worry about cheating or someone betting a ship they don’t own. I’ll just take the word of a complete stranger that you have a multi $$$$ ship.

I hope it's good, I have bunch of Disney stock plus I like Marvel movies.

here's one headline that don't like it though:

Captain Mary Sue
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/captain-marvel-movie-review-dull-directionless/

Yes the only point is Carie Fisher is dead. How come they didn’t actually you know let her die in TLJ?

So far there has not been a bad Disney/Marvel movie. Not one that I wouldn’t watch over again. Hopefully Captain Marvel is also great. I don’t like if she is the most powerful of all. That seems not the best because I’d think Hulk/Thor are more powerful. And mostly I don’t like most powerful type because I like how the characters have to overcome their weaknesses.

Funny have you all seen Avengers from SNL. Hawkeye is hilarious.

Who’s stronger Captain Marvel or Rey?

Disney will soon own X-Men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool, Daredevil not to mention The Simpsons and Avatar (4 future movies). Let's how they don't get too mired in the SJW movement.

Captain Marvel should be 'like' Ant-man not a major hit like Avengers. I think Black Panther broke out and people are expecting every movie to be like BP, but that should not be the case IMO.

It seems like Captain Marvel and (so far) all Marvel movies have not been contaminated like SW (SJW/Fatigue)

Captain Marvel has already surpassed Solo Domestic and Global totals

Solo $392M world wide

Captain Marvel at $709M has passed a lot of movies like many X-Men movies and is at 107 all time in just one week and change. Still well behind the dailys of Black Panther but otherwise solidly top 6-10 of Marvel movies. Will probably land up in the $1B category with foreign receipts kicking ass already at $500M

Rogue one was $523M foreign and had more domestic gross to break the $1B club, we need to see how badly second week is (seems like $60M is estimate for the weekend that is not included in the totals of CM yet).

My point is that Marvel is almost assumed to be a big hit and not lose money on a film like Solo did. It seems like SW is not as sure of a thing after KK got it messed up. I do think SW is still a big deal with SW theme lands in both of the US Disney resorts (I think they will be huge attractions). But that is not due to the last couple SW films more to do with overall 40+ years of SW.

Just updated Captain Marvel is at $760M global that’s a few million less than the first Guardians did in the whole release. A couple of days it’ll pass Deadpool and DP2 and IJ4.

It’s almost a lock for $1B box office I’ll see it because you know Avengers 4.

CM second weekend domestic is just $10M shy of TLJ did in second weekend TLJ sits at $1.3B worldwide, I think CM will pick up more international than TLJ but less domestic.

I have not seen CM yet but we can put to bed the idea that fatigue is a factor.

-55% second weekend which is better than average MCU film. Already top 10 MCU film worldwide.

I actually liked IM3. I always hear this was a bad movie, but perhaps I like all the Marvel movies think any of the Hulk movies would count as the worst. Speaking of which IM3 drew in $1.2B at box office not far below Black Panther. I’m not surprised if CM gets to a Billion.

What about The Punisher?

Nope he was great in TWD especially when he got his buzz cut.

That's what I mean, he was alpha male and he and Rick needed to fight it out in the end.

Meanwhile Captain Marvel is closing in on top25 all time worldwide. Not saying that makes it a great movie but it’s a money maker.

Hopefully Black Widow can get a solo movie before the old guard is replaced.

Disney shares up 12% today.

While most can agree that KK and RJ have destroyed SW for many fans. Overall SW purchase by Disney was not all bad. I can take a few Solo or TFA duds but some other movies and maybe tv series may be good.

Also tell me who is not going to watch episode 9. You may watch it because you love it or hate it but it’s going to be watched by everyone here on this thread. Imo.

Solo is not good but some day it’d make a good Mystery Science Theatre 3000 episode.

Does it include ESPN?

JJ Abrams to the rescue.

CM is at $408M as of Friday not counting Sat/Sun which should net another $5M+ CM will not be far off $450M domestic (maybe $430M). I can't say if that includes the studio buying tickets to pump the numbers (I don't agree with that). I plan to see CM before Avengers (have not seen it yet) and will see both in the next week so there is still money to be made in the theatre for CM.

CM actually was doing better sales this week (leading up to Avengers than it did last week was doing $1M+ per day so there is possibly another $20M to be had.)

I also do not agree with Disney mandating that theatre still show CM especially on a giant opening weekend. When I see these movies (like when I saw BP when it was out a few months already) then the theatre are nearly empty. I have been in a theatre with just 5-6 other people. Often times most theatre will drop the movie will still be one or two showing here and there for month yet to come. CM is just at 50 days and IM3 was out 70 days while BP was out 170 days (likely was just a small few theatre that kept it running that long).

good point, like it or not CM is a huge hit (not BP level) but heck it'll pass IM3 and all non-Avenger movies (not including BP) and likely was far cheaper to make than 3 hour Avengers with a dozen legitimate stars. CM is nearly double the gross box-office of Ant-man or Dr. Strange (worldwide).

I was watching the extended edition of Hateful Eight (on Netflix), highly recommended if you like the movie. But came away not liking it near as much as the studio cut. But still worth watching and think there could have been a middle ground where there was not so much stuff added back in.

I have to wonder if (with new streaming service) if Disney would ever make extended version of these MCU movies. I am sure that 3 hrs is a long movie but likely they filmed a lot more (like the LotR films).

What about Star Wars Holiday Special?

There’s already an End Game thread.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/avengers-end-gameholy-crapwhat-a-movie

I don’t wish to read about End Game to avoid spoilers.

Finally saw Captain Marvel today.

I think it is the worst Marvel movie in the MCU by far, no humor at all.

I fell asleep for a bit, there was way too much preaching that girls/women are better than men. I also think that CM is way too powerful, like she could destroy an entire fleet of ships without much effort. Initially thought when they were saying she is the most powerful Marvel hero that was just an exaggeration like she's not really stronger than Thor or Hulk. But it almost seems like she has infinite powers and could do anything at all.

The pinball machine was the best part of the movie.

If I never see Annette Bening in another film I’ll be fine with that. Wish that Marvel could leave the over the hill actors like Robert Redford and Annette Bening rust in piece.

Brie Larson is not horrible but she’s not a great actress and has that angry face all the time. What could have been (Blake Lively for example would have been much better imo).

They can have old man Jones reminiscing and fade back to young actor.

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Disney is a business to make money and they bought Lucas films to make more movies. Didn't pay George $4B for nothing, they want to make more films and TV shows.

I am sure they made a mistake with TLJ and Solo but the other two SW films weren't that bad. If JJ can make the last SW film somewhat as good as TFA that's fine.

I don't think it's a good idea to have 77 year old Harrison Ford in any more action movies. Even when he was in IJ4 I thought he was too old to be having fist fights.

I would love to see IJ come back with new (younger star like Chris Pratt or some of the names above). I think there is a lot more action adventure stories to be told in the IJ universe just not with 77 year old Ford as the lead.

true

A lot of people liked TFA. Maybe not the best movie but it garnered $900M domestic gross.

You don’t get to $900M by accident or hype. You get a huge opening weekend and that’s it. But TFA had long legs and people *must have* seen it multiple times. If it was bad word of mouth would have crushed it like Solo and TLJ.

I liked TFA (some not a lot) and I thought R1 was a good movie. But TLJ was so bad and Solo said to TLJ “hold my beer”.

this is pretty spot on about Solo

End Game will pass Avatar to become the top grossing movie all time (worldwide) more than $620M from China alone.

End Game will surpass the last three SW movies combined. (R1, TLJ and Solo).