I know what you mean. I still liked it but overall thought it could have been better. Luke shouldn't and didn't need to die. He could have easily and should be alive in the 9th movie.

Disney has now killed off one major and beloved Star Wars character in each of these sequel films. I can understand one but now with Carrie Fisher sadly passing they will eliminate her character from the 9th film. So Disney will have essentially killed off the entire original cast in 3 films...thats dumb and frustrating.

My favorite parts of the film were Yoda and Luke scene, very cool, and Luke appearing at the end to confront Kylo.

Overall though I feel like Disney wasted the literal one opportunity to bring Luke Skywalker back in a big way. The plot with the First Order just chasing the Rebel ship at slow speeds seemed weak as well.

I did forget to mention one funny scene. When Luke goes out to confront Kylo he passes C3P0 and 3P0 just slowly turns his head as Luke passes him with well his usual blank stare as if he's saying "oh shit", lol.

I did like when you Luke told Kylo "strike me down and you'll never get rid of me"...yeah as I'll be able to haunt your ass forever as a force ghost, lol.

From a recent interview about Luke dying in Epsidoe 8. I agree with Hamill. All of the original characters are being killed off just to make room for the new ones...bs.

"Hamill dealt with the news of his character’s demise in stages of grief. You already heard him express denial. Originally, the actor reacted with bargaining. “The first thing I said was, ‘Can’t you wait and do this in Episode IX?’”

But Johnson said it was necessary to keep the focus on the new characters as the trilogy reached its end. "

Agree with you 100%. The entire film just had this off feeling to it. Episode 7 was the far better film in my opinion. None of the new characters, other then Poe, seemed to grow as a character in the 8th film.

I'm also just pissed how Disney chose to handle Mark Hamill's portrayal as Luke Skywalker in Episode 8, no wonder he disagreed with them about it. Same with Snoke. Want to kill Luke Skywalker? Fine! Do it in the 9th film when Kylo tries to turn back to the light side and save Rey only to have Snoke stop both. Luke flys in and saves both, battling Snoke until he's killed in the process. Rey and Kylo then stop Snoke, done. That I feel is the ending the fans would have wanted.

Yes, the movies should be made for the fans. Instead this one wasn't and that's why it has a 56% user Rotten Tomatoes score.

The whole "Episode 8 is great because it blows Star Wars and it's characters up" is a bunch of BS in my opinion. Instead it makes Star Wars feel like something else.

Honestly, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I think Star Wars seemed more like Star Wars when George Lucas was involved.

"Mark Hamill Hates The Last Jedi" lol

Also...agree. "Mark Hamill Hurts". This sucks, you can tell he wanted something much different for Luke. He wanted to give the fans what they wanted.

Good to hear. I want to see it a second time and see if it changes how I feel about the movie.

The overall theme of the movie seems to surround "killing the past" as Kylo said. So the director and Disney choose to upend everything. Forget everything that JJ Abrams built in The Force Awakens. JJ did a great job of bringing old and new characters together in the first film. The Last Jedi ruins that and other then Poe none of the characters feel like they matured / grew. The new characters seemed more interesting in The Force Awakens then they do in The Last Jedi. Then they decided to make Luke not the Luke that you remembered, and end of killing him.

At this point I expect Episode 9 to kill off Leia (sadly will happen as Carrie Fisher has passed away), kill Chewie, and destroy the Falcon. I'll guess that C3P0 and R2D2 are the only survivors of the original trilogy. Heck just destroy them too while at it.

Disney is killing off all of the original cast to make room for new characters (and toys! queue progs) and it's backfired as they chose to go about it in a really bad way. Rey now isn't as interesting as Luke, Finn isn't as interesting as Han, Snoke was interesting but now dead.

Literally everything that Episode 7 did so well and setup is ruined in The Last Jedi.

Rant over.

That's a good point and something I need to remember. What Luke did is the most powerful exhibit of "the force" in any of the film's. Forget the video games and expanded universe books, those don't count.

What I found odd though is that Luke becomes one with the force while still being alive. Both Obi Wan and Yoda died before becoming one with the force.

I have to disagree with that one. Han thought he had one last chance at saving his son and bring him home. Getting older, love and children change people and it changed Han. He clearly had regrets about the relationship he had with his son and tried to save it. Even though he was killed in the process he showed he still loved his son by touching Bens cheek all while his son stabbed him with a lightsaber...that ends up sticking with Kylo forever in my opinion.

Out of character for Han when he was single and 35? Yes. Out of character for Han at 65 with a son? No. It wasn't out of character in the slightest considering the years and events that have passed. Maybe we need to consider the events and years that passed for Luke, how they affected to him and that's the reason why the events unfolded the way they did in Episode 8.

Apparently the Penguin type animals are based off of a real bird on the actual island. I thought they initially provided some good comic relief but putting them on the Falcon was too much...just like how I saw a Porgs sticker slapped on bananas at the store...ugh. Yup, all for more toys and making Disney more money.

By the time Episode 9 comes around Porgs and BB8 will be flying the Falcon as they go to deliver R2D2 and C3P0 to a scrap yard.

Episode 9 should just be about killing every character left from the original trilogy since that's the current path. Then Episode 10 can be called "The Last Survivor" and it's about Nien Nub on the run.

Yup. It was almost as if Disney was mocking the previous movies and character in general with that line. When Luke says something along the lines of "what do you think I'm going to do go out there and beat the First Order with my laser sword"? Well...YES! Lol

Yup, exactly.

The entire First Order concept seems pretty lame to begin with. If the new trilogy was based on Kylo, The Knights of Ren and Snoke being the primary threat against a rebuilt Republic I think that would be a far more interesting and original story in my opinion. What has been created is a rebooted story of the original trilogy with all of the new characters being made to match the original.

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Sounds like you haven't played the game or at least not enough. You can completely turn off mode stacking if you want and there's several other options for it. Tournament mode turns off stacking by default.

The games main modes are broken up into 4 sections, 3 for each planet plus a mini wizard mode for each planet. Each planet has its own insert on the playfield to select a mode for that planet. That's very straightforward.

This clip from a recent interview with Mark Hamill says it all. He even admits that the portrayal of Luke Skywalker does not match that in the original trilogy and says he had to think of Luke in this movie as a different character.

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This is how I imagine Luke going out and what the fans would have wanted. People would have gone nuts for this, lol.

First, queue the awesome music below from Two Steps from Hell

Towards the end of the movie

1. Shot of Luke in one of the huts on the island, he's looking down towards a small box, there's a look of him contemplating something in his eyes
2. Shot panes closer and switches to him looking at his light saber from Return of the Jedi
3. Luke grabs the lightsaber and exits the hut
4. Next shot is Luke using the force to lift his X-Wing out of the water
5. Luke had asked Rey to leave R2D2 with him and after lifting the X-Wing out of the water he says "Come on my old friend, we have one last mission"
6. There's a shot of Luke and R2D2 getting into the X-Wing
7. As Luke's X-Wing begins to lift of the ground in the distance he see's force ghosts of Obi-Wan and Yoda, Luke nods to both
8. Luke jumps to hyperspace, shot goes back to battle on the planet
9. Shot switches to Luke at hyperspace asking R2D2 "R2, set coordinates to exit hyperspace in the atmosphere of the planet"
10. R2 replies with some beeps and bops of concern, Luke says "Trust me, have I steered you wrong before"? R2 replies back again.
11. Shot back at the planet of the battling continuing
12. At the crescendo of the audio track above Luke exists hyperspace and starts lighting up the giant walkers in his X-Wing as the Resistance looks on, leaving the only walker standing the one that Kylo's is in.
13. There's a shot of Leia looking at the battle saying "Luke...thank you"
14. Luke asks R2 to pilot the X-Wing away and he blasts through its canopy
15. Kylo goes down to the surface to confront Luke
16. Luke lands on the surface, the ice around him cracks as he lands and he ignites his lightsaber
17. The lightsaber duel of lightsaber duels begins between Kylo and Luke
18. Luke defeats Kylo, not killing him but rather force pushing him away at the end of the fight
19. Luke turns around to watch the Resistance escape only to be stabbed by Kylo
20. Luke says the line "Now I'll always be with, just like your father" and vanishes Obi-Wan style into The Force

In my dreams this is the way Luke went out

You want to kill Luke Skywalker?! This is how you do it damn it! lol

The Last Jedi seems worse after you watch The Force Awakens which I think is a great film.

TFA did a great job building up the new characters, and incorporating the older ones. TLJ seems to ruin everything that The Force Awakens built in terms of character development.

Take the last scene from TFA for example where Rey goes to find Luke. Luke wanted to be found in the event he was needed again and when Rey finally does see Luke he's in full on Jedi garbs looking like a powerful Jedi Master. In Luke's eyes during the scene you can see emotion and contemplation as if he's thinking "It's time to help once again". TLJ ruins this moment and the character by having Luke just toss the lightsaber, immediately changing into rags from his Jedi outfit, and then not giving a crap about helping. It just doesn't make sense and Luke comes across as two completely different characters from TFA and TLJ.

Lol! Pretty much spot on.

I wouldn't be surprised if Episode 9 see's Chewie dying along with BB8 and the Porg flying the Falcon to drop C3P0 and R2D2 off at a scrap yard.

Honestly though I thought Episode 7 get a great job of incorporating the original and new characters. Han Solo still seemed like Han but a more mature version who as a father cared about his son. Episode 8 though just goes over the top in alienating the original characters or killing them off completely.

How cool would of it been if Lando had been the code breaker that Fin and Rose went searching for? That would have been a perfect setup for a casino type planet.

I could see Fin and Rose talking to a reluctant Lando with him about to leave before Fin says "General Leias life depends on it" stopping Lando in his tracks and convincing him to help. Lando could have then went out in style.

Not sure if this has already been discussed but apparently Disney didn't have a plan upfront for how the latest trilogy would play out. All 3 movies have been written without a set beginning, middle and end. The first two trilogies clearly had a story that build upon each of the last films but that clearly has happened with the new trilogy.

I saw the movie a second time yesterday and enjoyed it a lot more then the first showing. There are still things I don't like but overall I enjoyed the film more the second time around. Even the whole casino planet scene didn't seem as bad, lol. Other parts of the film seemed a lot stronger and better after my second viewing.

It's important to remember that these films could be told literally dozens of different ways. I think what was made ended up being a good Star Wars film. Also, upon a second viewing I thought that the original actors were in the film a good amount, heck half the film at least is about Luke.

The Luke we knew from 30+ years ago has changed a bit and the film is better for it considering what he went through. Anyone would change slightly after 30 years and even more so after going through major life events.

Also, props to the director for giving us a fitting end to Lukes character. Just like real life no one lives forever and I think the film is stronger for telling that. Luke went out saving the resistance, saving his sister and Rey, and igniting a new rebellion. Also, Luke's last scene is of him looking at two setting suns, just like the scene from a New Hope. By the end of The Last Jedi things come full circle for Luke.

Finally, there's literally no point to debate plot holes or how physics / science are being presented. This is a Star Wars film, it's all make believe so just sit back and try to enjoy it without dissecting every detail as the films are more enjoyable that way.

The items that I think are still bad after a second viewing are...

Porg overload: A reference here and there is fine but having them on the Falcon is too much. This is clearly an attempt by Disney to make another marketing opportunity...hell there was a Porg sticker on bananas I recently bought...

Maz: What a pointless and odd scene. It just seemed fake and cheesy with her talking to the resistance during an also fake and cheesy fight.

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For Episode 9 JJ Abrams should turn the tables on Rian Johnson and just come up with Luke "force teleporting" somewhere, he's not actually dead after all. Hell, he can pull a J.R.R Tolkien and have Luke visit the force world only to be told he must return to win the final battle! Why not at this point, lol.

I hear yeah at least a bit but personally I think the Marvel movies are starting to feel dull and have felt that way for the past couple of years. Every story told is pretty much predictable at this point. The second Avengers film, Age of Ultron, seemed like a dud in my opinion. Also, unlike Star Wars I think the world and lore surrounding the Marvel universe is rather weak.

It doesn't help either that every main good character in the Marvel universe seems invincible. I don't think a single Avenger in the 12+? films at this point has died and as a result every film has this "good guy going to fight bad guy and win" plot to it which over the years has become repetitive.

Sure does. TFA builds up all this excitement for Rey to find Luke as Luke himself left a piece of a map to be found one day if he was ever needed again. Then in TLJ we find out he's grumpy, wants to die alone on the island and tells Rey that the resistance doesn't need Luke Skywalker...doesn't make any sense at all. Oh and he nearly killed his nephew as he was having some dark thoughts....

Check out the deleted scenes below. Two of the scenes are with Luke and actually add to his character development yet were cut from the film, again doesn't make any sense at all.

In regards to Rey that is because her midichlorian count is over 20,000, even higher then Master Yoda.

Watching The Force Awakens right now and it makes The Last Jedi seem like such a bad movie. I wish JJ Abrams would have directed the entire trilogy.

Rian Johnson tried for some reason to reverse everything Abrams did (queue the "kill the past" line) and it backfired badly. The worse thing about The Last Jedi in my opinion is that it pretty much wasted the one chance to have Mark Hamill back as Luke Skywalker.

Attention, rant incoming!

Here's another thing that bugs me about Episode 7 and 8, well the whole new trilogy in general, lol. Disney keeps saying that Episode 7, 8, and 9 are a continuation of the Skywalker saga. Nope, BS! Disney has until the end of time to create Star Wars movies and as a result Episodes 7, 8, and 9 should have been more about the original characters and ending their stories over 3 films but instead they were just used as bait to get fans of the series into the theater only to then quickly pass everything off to new characters. There's nothing wrong with the new characters in my opinion but they are clearly the focus of these 3 movies, not the originals so for Disney to keep saying that Episodes 7, 8 and 9 are about Skywalkers story is a big lie! BS!

In Episodes 7 and 8 there are major points made about finding Luke Skywalker and the lure of the character. However, Disney never committed to giving Luke Skywalker ample screen time, instead he was simply used to move the new characters stories forward.

To speed the entire hand off process up Disney began killing off major characters. What a shame considering that Disney had the one chance to have Carrier Fisher, Mark Hamill, and Harrison Ford all on screen together again. They wasted that opportunity in part to create BB8 and Porgs to sell more toys.

Just read the article below about a recent ABC News interview with Mark Hamill. He doesn't even want to return as Luke Skywalker now in part because of the way the films were created. Again what an incredible once in a universe opportunity that Disney wasted.

http://m.ign.com/articles/2018/04/12/star-wars-mark-hamill-explains-why-he-doesnt-care-about-returning-as-luke

And finally! Lol. I think the entire First Order concept is lame. That's right, it sucks. After destroying the Empire in Return of the Jedi what is essentially the Empire again returns and is even bigger just 30 years later. BS!

Rant end!

All I know is that I'm glad Stern based their new Star Wars pin off of the original trilogy then the new one and / or integrating it. Thank goodness Disney didn't force them to do that either.

Lol! That's hilarious, love the admiral Ackbar scene the best.

Idk how Episode 9 can be saved at this point. The entire new trilogy has sucked so far in my opinion. Episode 7 felt pretty good but Episode 8 ruined anything it had built up. There are some cool moments with the original cast in episode's 7 and 8 but they are few and far between.

As I mentioned before the entire First Order concept is lame and is simply a rehash of the Empire. Snoke had a cool sense of mystery surrounding him...and then was quickly killed and replaced by a boring villain, Kylo Ren.

A majority of the original cast in the new films have been killed off and replaced. Want to know what Episode 9 should be about at this point? Just have BB8 and the Porgs drop C3PO and R2 off at a scrap yard, blow up the Falcon and then the rest of the movie is spent with them hunting down Chewie, the last surviving original character. Lol.

As many others have said the most frustrating part of The Last Jedi is the treatment of Luke Skywalker. The same thing could be said for other original characters. Disney spins the story that Episodes 7-9 are a continuation of the Skywalker story but that's in name only to get fans of the series into theaters.

Disney purposely has wanted to force the original characters out to make room for new characters. Fine but do that in a new trilogy! Disney has literally the rest of time to make Star Wars so why couldn't they let Episodes 7-9 truly be about the original characters? Instead they tried to trick fans of the series into believing these new movies are about the original characters. Well, that's now backfired and is the main reason why in my opinion that 6+ months later fans are still talking about their disappointment with The Last Jedi and now the new trilogy in general.

Oh yeah! I can see Lando going out in Episode 9 by smashing the Falcon into something with Nien Nunb back in the copilot chair. Right before the crash have Lando say "yeah baby!", cut to Nien Nunb doing his Return of the Jedi laugh and then epic explosion as the Falcon smashes into say Kylos capital ship. For Han and Leia!hqdefault.jpg

I may be in the minority but I think Episodes 1-3 are pretty good Star Wars movies. Yes some of the acting is bad in parts but the prequels did an amazing job of showing just how large the Star Wars universe is, how big of a deal the Jedi were and showed how things got to where they were at in the original trilogy. The prequel trilogy overall created a larger world for Star Wars fans which I think is pretty cool.

Force ghost party! Maybe Luke appears and says to Rey "I'm your father", then Obi Wan appears and says "No Rey, I'm your father", next Anakin appears and says "No, I am your father"...then finally Yoda appears and just does his crazy laugh.

Great post! It was as if Disney was afraid, or didn't want to, commit to Episodes 7-9 truly being about the original characters. Disney has forever to make Star Wars movies but had a brief window, a once in a lifetime opportunity, to reunite Luke, Lei and Han using the original actors and they blew it to try and sell boring new characters and porg toys.

The entire plot of the new trilogy just sucks. Like you said the Empire was destroyed in ROTJ but now 30 years later they are back as the First Order? Lame, the First Order is a pathetic attempt to recreate the Empire instead of coming up with something more original.

Wow, that was pretty spot on and hilarious, thanks! His comment about the fans craving the familiar, the heroic, and adventure hit the nail on the head. Did Disney want to offer the fans that with this trilogy? Nope.

It isn't all bad though, we got this thanks to The Last Jedi! Lol.

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This one about The Last Jedi that his channel did is pretty damn good too, lol.

To be fair there are multiple scenes before that scene took place of Palpatine and others talking to Anakin which were tied to his turn to the dark side. These are not in order as they occurred.

1. The scene where Palpatine and Anakin were talking at the space opera
2. Palpatine revealing to Anakin that he's the sith lord
3. The Jedi Council denying Anakin the rank of master
4. Obi-Wan asking Anakin to spy on Palpatine for the Jedi after he was denied the rank of master
5. Mace Windu telling Anakin to wait and stay behind when he and the other Jedi went to confront Palpatine
6. Yoda telling Anakin to suppress his feelings about losing someone close to him

After he turned

1. Palpatine tells Anakin that "in your anger you killed her" when Anakin asks about Padme, this is a lie and cements Anakins turn to the dark side as Darth Vader.

There are a lot of scenes in Episode 3 that relate to Anakin turning to the dark side. All of the Jedi scenes above made Anakin feel that he wasn't trusted even when he was honest with the Jedi. Anakin kept having dreams about losing Padme and before he went to Palpatine he first reached out to Yoda who told him to suppress those feelings as they are dangerous. That's kinda like a therapist telling someone who is depressed not to talk about their feelings...Luke in The Last Jedi is at least partially right when he says that the legacy of the Jedi is failure and the way that Anakin was treated by the Jedi is proof of it. Had the Jedi just trusted Anakin he would likely never of turned to the dark side.

Overall I think the prequel films are pretty good, yes the acting is bad in some spots but its good in others and they did a great job of creating a larger Star Wars world. Hell, I think the prequels come across as even better films after this latest trilogy, lol.

Not even if we see Lando and Nien Nub in the Falcon together one last time? Not even if in a final effort to save the residence we see them go to light speed with the Falcon directly into a First Order ship and right before we see Nien Nub laughing? lol

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Some video of Billy Dee Williams getting in shape for Episode 9. At 81 years old I hope I can throw some punches like that. He's being trained by Gunnar Peterson which has trained a bunch of athletes and celebrities.

My goodness look what they did to R2 for a 2018 Hallmark ornament lol. Might as well have the Porg on the top taking a crap on R2...

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What's sad, and kinda great at the same time, is Disney screwed up so bad with The Last Jedi that no one really seems to care about new Star Wars movies at the moment. Hell, the prequel trilogy now seems more enjoyable to me since Episode 8 was released, lol.

That must of been right around when Jar Jar says "Messa back", don't blame ya, lol.

YES! Spot on. Disney tries to act as if the new trilogy are sequels but really they are reboots disguised as sequels. The original characters have been sprinkled in here and there to bring in the older fans but then are just killed off.

I honestly hope at this point that Episode 9 is about Chewie, R2 and 3P0 trying to escape the resistance to stay alive. Maybe 3P0 will tell Chewie and R2 "our odds of survival if staying with the resistance are 3 million to one", lol. Then the rest of the movie is just the resistance and porgs trying to hunt them down.

I'll just say it, I really enjoy Episode 3. It's one of my favorite Star Wars movies of all time. I was in high school when the movie was released and went with 10 friends at midnight to a sold out opening night show, we had a blast. I remember the loud cheer and claps from the crowd when Yoda got up after being hit with force lightning from the Emperor and then force pushing him across the room. Watching it now makes me think back on that night and how half of us went out 6 months later to Media Play at midnight for the release of the DVD.

Attack of the Clones while not as good is another Star Wars prequel I enjoyed. I remember being at the theater and can still hear the audience going nuts the moment Yoda ignited his lightsaber for the Dooku fight.

Going back even further to Episode 1 I remember my cousin wanting to watch it multiple times when I would babysit him. He's an adult now and we still talk about how many times we watched that movie.

Yup, the prequel trilogy is good in my book and provided a lot of great memories The prequels made Star Wars feel like this huge universe, showed the full power of the Jedi and then how the distrust in one Jedi ruined it all. The new trilogy on the other hand makes everything feel rather small and meaningless.

The entire new trilogy just flat out sucks. So Dinsey is telling us that after the rebels blow up the 2nd Death Star and defeat the Empire that 30 years later there's an even bigger and more evil version of the Empire called The First Order? LAME! The First Order sucks and are just a way to reboot the trilogy with the same storyline.

Disney could, and should have, done something original and started Episode 7 off with Luke training a new generation of Jedi. Then a new villain / threat (Snoke) could have been introduced. Show us what became of the galaxy after the rebels won the Battle of Endor. What instead has been created is a boring mess with no direction and a story that seems destined to kill all off all of the original characters.

I hope Episode 9 at this point has Lando coming out of retirement to save Chewie, R2, 3P0, and his old pal Nien Nub from the First Order, Rebels, and Porgs as he knows their the next ones to die after what happened to his other friends.

Have to disagree with ya there. I think Sterns Star Wars is an excellent pin. The premium and LE are loaded with some great toys and features. Both the hyperspace and Death Star toy are two very substantial toys. Combine that with a very deep objective based ruleset that features licensed actor video / audio, tons of clips from the films, plus licensed music and it makes for one hell of a fun pin. Plus it's based off of only the original trilogy, lol

Just saw this video on my YouTube recommended list, it's a very well done and professional looking Star Wars fan film. This seems better then most of the scenes in The Last Jedi lol.

Here's an interesting comment from actor Simon Pegg about the recent Star Wars movies. I tend to agree, even though some moments in the prequels were cringeworthy the movies as a whole felt more like Star Wars then the new trilogy.

"I must admit, watching the last Star Wars film, the overriding feeling I got when I came out was, ‘I miss George Lucas.’ For all the complaining that I’d done about him in the prequels, there was something amazing about his imagination. I do feel like his voice is missing from the current ones,”

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900043319/this-star-wars-actor-says-the-new-films-are-missing-george-lucas-touch.html

Thanks for sharing the article, a lot of interesting points. The last few lines of the article sum of perfectly the issue with the new trilogy, it basically destroys everything the original characters did and what they represent in Episodes 4-6.

"No, we don't have to follow a new generation of Skywalkers with each new generation of moviegoers, but we also shouldn't be uncaringly throwing away those characters, their victories, their promises, their histories, their very characteristics and literally everything that made them who they are."

I think fans would have preferred to see Episode 7 be about how the Rebellions victory in ROTJ changed the galaxy, show Luke training a new generation of Jedi and then unfold how his nephew Ben is turned to the darkside through the movie by Snoke. Episode 8 could then have been about the Sith's return and the old gang coming back together to fight them with some new characters. Episode 9 could have had Luke fight Snoke and then be killed in some heroic act only to have Kylo redeem himself and square off against Snoke.

Disney has the rest of time to make new Star Wars trilogies so there was no excuse to not let Episode 7-9 be a continuation of the story from Episodes 1-6. Instead Disney used the original characters to lure fans back and then kill them off in effort to promote new characters that they hope would lead to more films. Well...it backfired. Will there will an Episode 10, 11, and 12? It seems like no one cares at this point.

I think Disney is going to have a hard time creating more Star Wars movies past Episode 9 as there's 0 established characters outside of the Skywalker trilogy that most people are aware of. Yes there's a ton of EU stuff but that's only known by hardcore fans. With the Marvel movies Disney had a large number of characters, many well known, to base multiple movies off of. With Star Wars that just isn't there and George Lucas is no longer involved to create new characters.

Whatever Star Wars movies Disney does create past Episode 9 I think they need to get out of the "bad guys build super weapon" story line, it's beyond played out at this point. Personally I would be interested in an Old Republic series of movies set hundreds if not thousands of years before the Skywalker movies. Bring in a great team of writers and flush the entire story out from start to finish. Hopefully the GOT creators that have been brought in are doing just this. If Star Wars is going to stay relevant then new compelling characters need to be created...and it can't be stuff like Porgs lol.

On a side note the whole First Order concept destroyed any sense of mystery and wonder as to what happened after Return of the Jedi. 30 years later and there's a new even more evil version of the Empire? LAME! The entire First Order concept should have been scrapped, it was only been used to soft reboot the movies. If the new trilogy would have focused on Luke training a new generation of Jedi and Ben being turned by the Sith (no First Order involved) it would have been much more compelling. Guess it's true what Mark Hamill said afterall "In Hollywood it doesn't matter if the story is good, only if it makes money".

Oh they covered what happened after Return of the Jedi with two lines in The Last Jedi lol.

Luke "For many years, there was balance and then I saw... Ben" and "I took him, and a dozen students, and began a training temple"

That's it! Then the First Order somehow rose from the ashes of The Empire even though there's apparently a new Republic and built a super weapon out of a planet all behind everyones back...

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Reading rumors that Lando wont even be in the film that much. Seriously Disney at this point just make Episode 9 about killing off all remaining original trilogy characters. Have a swarm of Porgs take Chewi out. Rey and Kylo can team up to destroy R2D2 and C3P0. Finally have Lando come in the final minutes of the movie to rescue his old pal Nien Nunb and say "lets get the hell of out here baby" as they board the Falcon only to get blown up minutes later!

Just like Kylo said in Episode 8...forget the past, kill it if you have to. Do it Disney!!! Lol

Now reading that the rumors are false and he is doing a new trilogy....

More "exciting" news about Rian Johnson's new Star Wars trilogy!

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/rian-johnsons-star-wars-trilogy-rumored-geared-younger-viewers/

I find it funny that Disney keeps referring to this trilogy as a continuation of the Skywalker story. That couldn't be further from the truth. Disney has sparingly used the original characters and only hints at what occurred between Episode 6 and 7. The new trilogy is really about Rey, Finn, Kylo, etc and marketing new characters that really haven't been very interesting. My favorite scenes in the new trilogy have all been ones where at least one original character is involved.

The more I hear about Episode 9 the less I care. This entire new trilogy has overall sucked. Second order concept is lame, the way Luke was treated sucked, original trilogy characters being killed off left and right. I'm done with Star Wars.

Wow, the new Picard trailer actually looks amazing! Here I was thinking the shows creators would pull a Last Jedi and make Picard an old grumpy man that doesn't want to help anyone. "I started this winery to die", "It's time for Starfleet to end" lol. Nope! Take notes Disney...actually it looks like CBS took notes after fans reactions to The Last Jedi.

That's a bummer for the employees. I'm not surprised with attendance being down, I wonder if Star Wars in general is just becoming less and less interesting to people with the way Disney has handled the sequel films? Personally I think Disney took a well established theme and instead of expanding upon it made it feel small while limiting if not ruining the original characters that made Star Wars popular in the first place. I can't believe I'm saying this but I kinda feel like I really don't care much about Star Wars right now.

I rather watch anything Star Trek related which comes across as having a huge sprawling world versus Star Wars that feel's small and and dull at the moment. Seeing what Picard has been up to for the past 25 + years and where he's going? Can't wait. Seeing how the 2nd order ends? I just don't care lol.

Not sure if anyone else heard that Ewan McGregor may be returning as Obi-Wan in a Disney Plus Obi-Wan series. There hasn't been an official announcement from Disney yet. Personally I think the idea of an Obi-Wan show with Ewan McGregor coming back sounds great.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/report-ewan-mcgregor-will-return-as-obi-wan-kenobi-in-1837288832

Looks great! Also, Obi-Wan show officially confirmed.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/23/20830478/obi-wan-kenobi-standalone-spinoff-series-disney-plus-series-ewan-mcgregor-streaming-star-wars

Saw the new trailer for The Rise of Skywalker and I can't help to feel that I just don't care. This entire new trilogy is a mess. Disney tricked the fans into thinking these films are a continuation of the Skywalker story but they are anything but that. The new trilogy is a soft reboot with original characters sprinkled in and then killed off. What a shame too as Disney had the opportunity to reunite Han, Leia, and Luke. They could have shown Luke training a new generation of Jedi and the Ben being lost to the darkside. They blew it.

The Skywalker story ended here for me

Yeah, seems like Disney doesn't care about any of the rules established in the previous films, books, etcs. I always thought only those that were good, Jedi's, could become force ghosts. If the Emperor all of a sudden is a force ghost as well it would go against everything already established but that's in the past and as The Last Jedi said "Let the past die" lol.

Yeah, that sucks just like the entire concept of the First Order. The First Order was created to assist with providing a soft reboot for the new trilogy, an Empire copy. Lame! At least Episodes 1-3 show how the Empire came to be. How did the First Order come to be? Who knows, it's never explained in the new trilogy. After ROTJ Luke was given a few small buildings in the middle of nowhere to train a dozen students and then decides to go kill his nephew when he sensed the dark side in him. That's right Luke Skywalker, the man who brought back to the light side one of the most evil Sith lords (Darth Vader, his father), tried to kill his nephew for having dark side thoughts. Then poof, First Order with a planet sized weapon. Screw this new trilogy, it's so bad.

I seriously hope at this point that Episode 9 is about Lando trying to rescue C3PO, R2D2, and his old pal Nien Nunb from both the First Order and the Resistance to take them back to Endor to live in peace before they are killed too. Once they reach Endor they can have another big party with the Ewoks featuring fireworks, and dancing. Just before the credits appear Luke materializes as a force ghost, joins in on the dancing and the credits role.

Episode 9

Lando "We're getting the hell of out here guys" (to C3P0, R2D2, and Nien Nunb)

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Lol, right here!

It's complete B.S that Disney moved so fast with Episodes 7-9 because they wanted to satisfy the fans. Nice excuse Disney. No, Disney wanted to recoup the billions they gave George Lucas as quickly as possible. Instead of spending an extra year planning the new trilogy with ensuring the same director directed all 3, and planning out the start, middle, and end of the story Disney created a mess of a new trilogy that is downright dull at this point.

Who are Rey's parents? Who will Kylo Ren side with? Who cares! lol

I hear ya there. The prequel films actually seem better now after watching TFA and TLJ. Lucas created a huge world dominated by the Jedi, governments, and gangsters for the prequel trilogy while the world in the new trilogy feel's small and dull.

3P0 "Taking one last look sir, Disney has killed most of my friends" lol

Overall when I watched the final Episode 9 trailer I felt nothing. I don't care about any of the new characters, the original characters (the ones that are left) seem forced in at this point. As the Emperor said in the last trailer "Your journey...nears it end". Thank God!

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I'm with ya. It's probably for the best as we saw how GOT turned out once they ran out of G.R.R Martin's source material...I don't think the odds were good that they could make a made from scratch Star Wars trilogy.

Still sounds like Rian Johnson's new Star Wars films are in the works...

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2483034/dont-worry-rian-johnson-is-still-working-on-his-star-wars-movies

It's crazy how much of a different vibe that trailer has then Episodes 7-9. The Mandalorian seems to have the look and feel of the original trilogy and Rogue One. I'm way more excited for The Mandalorian and Obi-Wan series then any new Star Wars film at this point.

So apparently Princess Leia was supposed to be The Last Jedi? She never showed any force powers until the Mary Poppins moment in TLJ. Guess the plan was to kill off Luke and have Leia finish Ray's training and or become a powerful Jedi? I don't understand this new trilogy at all, what a mess and waste of a once in lifetime opportunity to properly reunite the original characters.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/07/carrie-fishers-brother-reveals-shocking-original-star-wars-ending-for-leia/

Also, Anthony Daniels (C3P0), recently expressed his disappointment for the new films.

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1199288/Star-Wars-9-Rise-Skywalker-C3PO-Anthony-Daniels-backlash-fans-film-release-date

"I know it has been particularly difficult for him (Hamill) lately because the new movies haven’t given him much to do. I certainly recognise that and can relate to it."

"In these new movies, I have felt like a table decoration. And that is difficult because I recognise this character (C-3PO) is worth so much more. But I understand it is a whole film, not a feature about C-3PO."

Just watched episode 2 of The Mandalorian. Great show so far! Two episodes in and it's already better then both Episode 7 and 8 in my opinion. Such a nice break from the terrible jokes and mess that is the new trilogy. I think The Mandalorian does a good job of capturing the look and feeling of the original trilogy.

I watched the 3rd episode of The Mandalorian this morning. Awesome episode, best one yet in my opinion. Once it ended I thought "Star Wars is finally back"! I still can't get it over just how bad the new trilogy comes across after watching The Mandalorian.

I apologize in advance for my rant lol.

It seemed like going against literally everything expected was the goal of Rian Johnson for the TLJ considering the "destroy the past, kill it if you have to" line. That made for some great critic reviews as it was "original" and "going against the grain" but a vast majority of Star Wars fans hated it. Instead of Luke being a powerful Jedi that did everything to save his nephew from turning to the dark side he's a grumpy old man who tried to kill his nephew despite the fact that he wanted to save his father, Darth Vader, who was the most evil dude in the galaxy.

Addressing the 20 something years between ROTJ and TFA? One line from Luke, "For a time there was peace", is all we get. Dumb. Spending 30 minutes wasted on the casino planet to save animals used for racing? Dumb. Spending an hour watching the resistance slowly crawl away from The First Order to get just out of firing range? Dumb. Luke dying at the end because he used to much force energy? Dumb. Leia's only response after hearing her brother just died "I felt it to", "We have everything we need". Dumb. It's all dumb! lol.

Tossing in those stupid porgs makes things even worse considering how they keep showing up throughout the movie, including in the Falcon for some reason and on R2D2 at the end. The comedy? It's cringe worthy to say the least. I can't hear you jokes from Poe, and "The name's Finn and I'm in charge. I'm in charge now, Phasma! I'm in charge!"...ugh.

R2D2 isn't happy here, he's saying "Help me"!

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Exactly, well said! The entire new trilogy just craps on the original films and does nothing to build upon them. The entire First Order concept is dull, boring, and doesn't make any sense to begin with. The Rebellion destroys the Empire and then 20 something years later there's a group even more powerful with a Death Star planet? No, that concept sucks. Bringing back the Emperor is the same thing, doesn't make any sense and is a slap in the face to Darth Vaders story arch.

Personally I think the new trilogy should have been about The New Republic thriving, Luke rebuilding the Jedi, seeing Ben get tempted and going to the dark side when a new Sith threat rises, and then then in the final film having Luke and or Han sacrificing himself as a way to save his nephew / son.

How I wish the new trilogy went

Episode 7: New Republic thriving, Luke rebuilding the Jedi, Han and Leia in leadership roles, Sith begin to rise
Episode 8: Sith lure Ben Solo to the darkside, New Republic attacked, Luke losses many but not all of the new Jedi
Episode 9: Battle between New Republic, Sith, and the remaining Jedi. Luke squares off against main Sith dude, pulls an Obi Wan to save his nephew and dies. In last 1/3 of film main Sith dude is ready to kill Han, Ben remembers what Luke taught him, saves his dad, Ben fights and defeats the Sith.

Instead we got Disney killing off nearly all original characters, porgs, and grumpy island living Luke.

I heard the Ewoks are throwing a huge party at the end of Episode 9. After The Battle of Endor the Ewoks went into business as party and event planners. The Episode 9 party is supposed to be epic, much bigger than the ROTJ one. There's rumors going around that the Ewoks even managed to book force ghost Luke to make an appearance.

Bit unrelated but the new Ghostbusters: Afterlife trailer was released today. I think it looks awesome. This looks like a good way to incorporate something old and new without crapping all over the original source material.

Peter Venkman "Its time for the Ghostbusters...to end"

Ray Stanz "I came to this firehouse to die"

Lol thankfully not.

Loved the Vader scene in Rogue One. That was fan service at it's best. I much rather have that then grumpy Luke and porgs.

Does anyone else wonder if Star Wars is doomed to fail as the source material has run out with George Lucas being out of the picture? How many more shows and movies can be done about the time between trilogies before it starts to feel dull? Personally I think we are already there. Hell even The Mandalorian can't make it past a few a few episodes before losing its luster. What type of new story can even top what has already created in the original trilogy? I'll admit that I don't see it.

Damn lol, that does look bad.

The entire concept of bringing The Emperor back seems dumb. Bringing Palpatine back basically ruins Vaders story arch.

Also, I guess this means those huge chunks of the Death Star II, including the throne room, survived the massive explosion along with The Emperor at the end of ROTJ. Lol ok Disney.

Oh wait a minute, that little tiny dot is Palpatine floating away in a force bubble. Now it all makes sense!

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It's time for this trilogy to...

Lol, from one of the worst actors in anything Star Wars related.

As someone who disliked The Last Jedi I had a good time watching Rise of Skywalker, as did my wife and the two friends we went with. The movie just felt like a fun Star Wars movie with better acting, a more focused plot, and far less politics being shoved down the viewers throat then in The Last Jedi. Did I think it was amazing? No. Good? Yes. It was my favorite movie of the new trilogy which isn't saying much. Overall the entire 3rd trilogy feels unnecessary and a waste of an opportunity to properly use and reunite Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, and Harrison Ford.

I think the lack of politics and more fan service in TROS that has made some critics upset and as a result poor reviews. It wasn't controversial like TLJ! The magic of just telling a fun story set in its own universe without any real worlds politics died with this trilogy and when the final one tried to put less of that in and instead more fan service people still complained. This is the reason why I think Rotten Tomatoes user reviews for TROS are higher than what they are for TLJ. In the end maybe TROS made Star Wars fans more happy then the TLJ.

The whole "Palpatine is back we need to stop him" plot seemed more focused then the multiple plots and subplots going on in TLJ. My favorite scene in TROS was the Rey vs Kylo fight on the remnants of Death Star II. The fight felt like the best lightsaber battle in the new trilogy (again not saying much) and had some good emotion in it. I also didn't expect for J.J Abrams to incorporate Carrie Fisher so well into the movie and plot considering it was unused Episode 7 footage of her being used.

Also, did the scenes with Luke seem a bit off to you? He almost seemed too force glowy in my opinion.

My biggest WTF moments were The Emperor going bonkers with his force lighting into the sky. I half expected him to say "UNLIMITED POWER" there lol. Also, Chewie and Lando coming back 20 minutes later with thousands of ships ready for combat seemed random and not realistic (what is at that point though).

Wow, good read. Disney has sure made a mess of things. I can see how JJ really tried as its visible in many TROS scenes. It's a shame Disney didn't trust JJ enough to give him total control of the movie. The original ending with all of the Jedi force ghosts being there in person sounds amazing.

More details from the Rise of Skywalker have been released thanks to a new book! The Emperor we saw was a clone, Rey can manipulate things through the force thanks to learning from Luke, etc. How exciting! All I can think is...who cares? Lol. Pass, I'm so over this new trilogy.

All I'll say about the final episode is DAMN IT'S GOOD! This show has managed to be easily better then Disney's sequel trilogy.

Anyone else reach the Marvel fatigue stage? I just don't care anymore about pretty much anything Marvel related. The new Deadpool 3 movie with Wolverine is about it.

After Endgame I've had this "who cares" feeling towards super hero movies. I know all movies are make believe but nearly all of the latest Marvel films and shows come across as factory film making with these out there dull, repetitive plots. Oh there's another bad guy that wants to kill all of the Gods in universe, oh there's a super evil guy living in the fake quantum realm? Who cares has been my attitude as of late.

Today I'm much for interested in seeing actual films such as The Banshees of Inisherin, and The Whale. Those are films as a relative of mine once said, not a theme park movie.

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My Dad and I went to a casino resort for a mini vacation and watched 11 episodes of Star Trek Picard in the room along with some drinks. We've been watching Star Trek together since I was a kid. Had a good time lol, it was entertaining (maybe the drinks made it better!). There were a couple snoozers but overall we enjoyed it and are just about caught up for season 3.

New Star Wars sequel trilogy special edition has been released, only 26 seconds long.

Somehow Palpatine returned...

Disney messed the sequel trilogy up so bad. For a time they had Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, and Harrison Ford (plus other original trilogy actors) and completely blew the opportunity to properly reunite them on the big screen. Instead they killed off Han and Luke (plus insulted the character) and Carrier Fisher sadly passed away in real life.

There was no plan to create a meaningful sequel trilogy under one director who had a start to finish vision for all 3 films. Instead Disney was focused on one thing, money, and recouping as much of the $4 billion they gave George Lucas as fast as they could.