Quoted from jesster64:I might as well pile on. Leia flying through space was one of the worst scenes i've ever seen. No reason to put those chickens with big eyes in the movie except to sell toys. Chewie almost eating one except the one had tears in its eyes almost made me throw up. I guess when they were on the falcon, it was a tribute to star trek tribbles. Snoke not sensing ren manipulating the saber, yet he senses everything else. Why did the planet have red salty watery soil? Harrison Ford makes the series. He makes the jokes. Without him it falls flat. Having to visit a casino for a codebreaker, made no sense whatsoever. The fleets being pursued , yet you are told to go find a codebreaker, its your only chance. So they didn't just destroy the lead ship because they would switch the tracker to another ship, yet disabling the tracker gave them a whole 6 minutes to escape. Tracker looked like a flux capaciter. Didn't appreciate the whole animal cruelty subplot, yes, all humans are evil. They introduce new character and she is immediatley recruited to go on dangerous mission. Captain phatasm is just a reason for an action figure. Apparently BB can do everything, steal a ship, pilot a walker, etc.. Even mark hamill hated the idea luke gave up on everybody. Whats with the evil dark hole, nothing really came of that.Thats all for now off the top of my head and it feels good to vent.
I did like the luke projecting himself twist. Also the kid at the end used the force to grab a broom, didn't he, so a future jedi. I like kylo, at least character development there.
Leia flying is typical Jedi crap. I don't get why it's an issue. She didn't fly, she just force pulled herself back to the ship. They shot it weird though, so it felt a little funny, but that's not really an odd thing to see a force user do.
The porgs are pretty standard Star Wars. They've always had little throwaway creatures and droids around.
Red salty soil? That's going to bug you? I can find some of that literally 5 miles from myself right now. What another strange thing to get bothered by.
The entire casino plan failed. I'm not sure if you noticed that or not. That was the point. The plan didn't work, and staying on the ship would have been better. I don't know why it's weird that some hotshot code breaker would be at a casino though. He could have been anywhere, but what's so out of line with a casino?
The tracker stuff felt a bit contrived as far as a single ship tracking at a time. The disable and jump plan is fine though. I don't know how they came up that time window. Since they mention hyperspace tracking in Rogue One as a research project, it's reasonable to have it as a plot point here.
Captain "Phatasm" probably should have had more screen time, but her appearance would have been way cooler if they didn't spoil that she was in the film through marketing. Everybody (in the film) assumed she was dead, but knowing for sure that she was alive made it feel weak for the audience. It's Phasma, by the way.
BB-8 being a "do all" is pretty similar to R2-D2. He hacked/repaired/zapped stuff all through the first trilogy. That's what these droids do.
The "evil dark hole" is the same sort of thing that Luke walked into on Dagobah in the Empire Strikes Back. That wasn't a new concept for Star Wars either.
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If people are going to complain about all these things that don't make sense, maybe limit those things to stuff that aren't already established in the Star Wars universe. There is plenty to not like, but be reasonable in the claims about what doesn't make sense for the franchise.
There are real imperfections and issues, sure. Finn's and Rose's mission should have happened. It was a desperate act, and I'm fine with it failing, but they could have trimmed that down to happen on screen in half the amount of time it took. Snoke's dying the way he did was fine, but it shouldn't have been so blatantly telegraphed with the slowly turning lightsaber and the heavy-handed dialog leading up to it. Rey should probably have been given a few more days of training and instruction time, but they painted themselves into a corner with the running out of gas plot. She couldn't be on the island for much longer than she was.
I would have changed the out of gas problem to be something different. Not being able to break away and not jump to lightspeed is fine. But rather than gas being a problem, gravity well generators on Snoke's ship would have been better. Breaking in to try to disable them would have still been a good reason to search for the code breaker. Make the shields eventually failing be the issue, not gas. "We can keep enough distance to minimize the effect of their weapons, but the shields will eventually fail" would feel better than "there's no Chevron out here."
I would have handled Yoda's appearance a bit different too. Rather than an angry Luke heading to the tree, I would have had a conflicted Luke approaching it, seeing if there's anything he might have missed. As he got close, the tree was already burning, with a couple of those keepers standing by watching. A shocked Luke asks them what they've done, and Yoda steps out of the flame and goes on about how the Jedi Order is no longer needed and how Rey has already been taught what she needs and so on. It would have played into Luke's decision to reconnect to the force a bit better.
The actual movie was really good, but some of the handling was rough, I agree. I just don't see why people are feeling like everything was so out of line.