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*SPOILERS* -TROS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad & other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel


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    #1 2 years ago

    12/17/2019 Edited thread title to include The Rise of Skywalker to being discussed

    12/7/2018 Edited thread title to encompass a more broad range of the topics being discussed

    6/1/2018 Edited thread title to make it more relevant to current discussion

    //FLAME SUIT ON

    Wow, what a bad movie. I am clearly a big fan of star wars and went to the 1 am showing when I work at 8 am.

    Spoiler Alert, turn back now if you havent seen it or do not want any spoilers

    From start to finish it was just bad.

    I'll try to break it down chronologically

    Exhibit A:
    So at the beginning the First Order tracks down the Rebels, yadda yadda yadda, then they TRACK THEM THROUGH LIGHT SPEED / HYPERSPACE
    and everyone is like, wow that is impossible! but they never deavle into the details of just how that was pulled off. stupid.

    Exhibit B:
    The Rey with Luke stuff was pretty blah. Just was. Nothing really came out of it.

    EDIT: EXHIBIT C1: How could I forget about this one haha. When the rebel ships bridge gets blown up and Leia is floating in space, instead of freezing to death, running out of O2, or whatever would actually happen, she used the force to float back to an entrance of the ship and get back in. I was in disbelief at how bad that scene was.

    Exhibit C2:
    The whole Finn and, I think Rose?, going to some Casino town to get help was not great. I feel like they only added this stuff to check off the box of weird animals and puppet aliens. Then they meet some random guy who is going to be their code breaker who betrays them and it all just seemed so forced.

    BONUS WTF MOMENT:
    They try and go to Maz for help. Like why? what is her role.

    Exhibit D:
    Snoke! Like What the actual F&^K. He is the Supreme Leader. He tapped into the force to get Rey and Kylo to see and talk to each other. No back story on who he is/was and how he came to power. Super powerful in the force then gets cleaved in halve without ever fighting. We see a glimpse of his power with some lightning he jams at Kylo and that is it. Like what was the point of his existence other than to be "bad guy number 1" He was super strong with the force so he had to be around during 4,5,6 days but just nothing about his back story and hes gone. LAME

    Exhibit E:
    Speaking of being really strong in the force. Kylo stopped a blaster bullet in mid air in episode 7. Then in the fight with the elite guards after Snoke was killed he doesnt even use a single force push or choke or anything. You would think this kid could crush skulls with his mind. meh

    Exhibit F:
    Oh, the whole "Rey, your parents come from nothing, just a bunch of junk finders." Way to kill another plot point.

    Exhibit G:
    Well, so Force Ghost Yoda comes and visits Luke to give some advice. If they are going to use Force Ghosts and Vader came back to the Light Side as a force ghost, why wouldnt he just tell Kylo to quit being a D bag. But that is not related to this movie. What is questionable is that Yoda blows up the Jedi teachings, but alas, at the end we see Rey had taken all the old texts. Like Yoda and Luke couldnt sense that or what? Whatever.

    Exhibit H:
    Why not have droid manned ships just light speed thru all the star destoryers, or heck, the death star, anything really and blow them up. slippery slope.

    Exhibit I:
    The part of the movie that I thought was the best was Luke projecting himself in front of Kylo and that whole fight/exchange. Super cool to finally see some of Lukes ultimate power. Oh wait, then he died right after. lame.

    Sprinkle in some bad jokes for laughs and what not. bravo. made a star wars worse than the prequels.

    I probably will never watch this episode again, and for sure not going to see the next one at a midnight showing. Very disappointing

    EDIT: added these things to first post so all my rage is listed here:

    Addendum 1: Ending episode 7 on a cliff hanger with Rey anding Luke his lightsabre, then Luke tossing it over his shoulder for a cheap laugh in E8

    Addendum 2: Showing Chewie eating those cute little critters for no reason, kinda messed up to portray a beloved character that way.

    Addendum 3: Just a terrible plot device as "running out of gas" as being the big event that is causing all the turmoil.

    Addendum 4:If they are just tracking the main ship, uh duh, warp to hyperspace in the other ships and stay alive and save your fleet. derrr

    Addendum 5: Do the knights of ren even exist in this story anymore?

    Addendum 6: The entire start of Ep 7 is about the map fragment to find Luke, who doesnt want to be found cause he has a sweet spear fishing spot with fresh, non-pasteurized alien tit milk all to himself!

    #6 2 years ago
    Quoted from Trekkie1978:

    As for tracking, remember, Darth Maul was able to track the ship to Tattooine in Phantom Menace.

    hmm, did that ship go thru hyperspace? Cant recall but it probably did. good point. everyone shouldnt be so surprised if that tech has existed for that long tho.

    #7 2 years ago

    I really expected them to kill off Leia, but she seems an integral part of the rebelling still (seeing how its like 15 people now...) i wonder how they are going to do her scenes next time, total CGI?

    #13 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    If everybody hates these movies so much why do they keep seeing 'em?
    Hell I'm one to talk. They haven't made a good Terminator movie in 25 years and I still go.

    I liked episode 7, and I did not hate the prequels as much as most people. This one I thought was really bad tho. very disappointed. I stopped watching the Terminator movies tho hah.

    Quoted from Coz:

    I knew something didn’t feel right about Luke’s fight with Kylo REN, it’s becase he had a just for men colored beard and shorter hair. Just seemed odd. He didn’t have the longer gray beard

    Yeah first thing I noticed when he walked up to Leia in the bunker, it was like, wait a minute, thats the flash back Luke.

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    #15 2 years ago
    Quoted from DaveH:

    Didn't read a message. Avoiding spoilers. But please remove the "is really bad" from the topic. Say it all you want in posts, but not in the topic.

    lol, make your own thread where you call it whatever you want. its my opinion and my thread. sorry dad, not really into being an internet censorship kinda guy

    #16 2 years ago

    So looking at Rotten Tomatoes Audience Rating:

    Episode 1 - 59%
    Episode 2 - 57%
    Episode 3 - 65%
    Episode 4 - 96%
    Episode 5 - 97%
    Episode 6 - 94%
    Episode 7 - 89%
    Rouge One - 87%

    Episode 8 - 60% - Granted, 1 official night of showings (60,764 ratings 12/15/17 10:36 AM Mountain) , I will update for a few weeks, see where it settles at.

    edit: LOL, went to get the link to add to here and its dipped to 59% (61,215 ratings 12/15/2017 10:44 AM Mountain)

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_last_jedi/

    edit: 58% 61,707 12/15/17 11:10 AM.

    #19 2 years ago

    Speaking of ending... 7 ends with this super cool cliff hanger with Rey handing Luke his Lightsabre, that has huge significance,
    then he just tosses it over his shoulder. dumb. way to kill a great vibe into a shitty joke.

    Oh. and the main plot point of. wait for it. they are going to run . out. of. gas.
    nice.

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    #20 2 years ago

    Also, why even have the scene where Chewie, a beloved character, is eating one of the cute little critters. like wtf. people laughed, i cringed.

    #25 2 years ago
    Quoted from RobKnapp:

    The film was awesome . I really enjoyed the film .
    Rating of my own 7.9 out 10
    Rating average is 8.1 on IMDB 48,000 user reviews
    Metacritic Average 86 out of 100
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2527336/?ref_=inth_ov_tt

    Down to 57% on rotten tomatoes with 63,933 reviews as of 12/15/2017 1:12 PM Mountain

    Metacritic is just from Critics, not the general public. Apparently the critics love this movie as it is 93% at Rotten Tomatoes where the general public is at 57%. I personally think the general audience rating is a better indication than the critics who get paid to do it and could have an agenda.

    Quoted from Stosel:

    The part where Leia Mary Poppin's herself back to the ship, after floating in space, and never really using the force before, really pissed me off. It would had made sense for her to die there. I literally said WT* out loud in the theater. So stupid.

    It was such a bad scene, and shot so poorly. It looked really dumb how she did it and yeah, she hadn't done s&^T with the force previously.

    Quoted from 30FathomDave:

    To each their own, but I thought it was a blast. I’m seeing it again tonight.

    Glad you liked it. Did you find yourself not liking anything in particular, or pretty much on board with the whole movie? Just curious as everyone I've talked to in person has had similar, maybe not as negative but def not a glowing review, view as myself.

    #28 2 years ago
    Quoted from HookedonPinonics:

    I am a huge Star Wars fan and have been for a long time. Today at work I have felt so livid and upset with this movie its not even funny. All of your complaints are the same ones I have and I just can not believe this thing got past the writing room let alone got through anything. You forgot to add how horrible of a character and actor Rose was as well as Laura Dern having no significance in this movie and also just being a lame character. Also Poe and Finn not once having their characters being developed in any significant manner. Bringing Phasma back and then killing again (obviously didn't die in FA) was another just waste of time and head scratching experience. All 3 were thin lame characters in the first one and continue to be such here. Just an awful experience and I don't know if I can even sit through another 2 1/2 hours to even see if I can give it a second chance. It was exhausting to sit through. I can not add anything else for I will prob just smash my computer screen. Huge potential that in my opinion Disney just ran to the ground. Force Awakens had its fair share but I had no problems with that one. They did a good enough job for what they had and executed it. This was just a disappointment and I am sad that it came to this...o well. Just a movie but damn.

    Yeah, I didnt add the Phasma to my list of issues cause I think I blocked that out from my mind lol. Probably just to sell more toys, bring her back.

    I agree with character development, I was really happy that Fin was going to sacrifice himself at the end, and was like, well he atleast redeemed himself in some way, but alas, Rose to the rescue.

    #30 2 years ago
    Quoted from northvibe:

    Point A, they did explain the tech for tracking via light speed.

    was the explanation, "oh, they have this thing in this area of their ship that is tracking us" cause thats all i caught. like how did they get it on the other ship and able to track thru light speed? I honestly dont know, if i missed it then i missed it. if they were only tracking 1 ship, they should have shot all the other ships in light speed in a different course...

    #41 2 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    I don't understand the hang up with tracking through hyperspace not being explained. Didn't they say they had rigged it to track the one ship which Snoke seemed very impressed that his guy had done that?

    fair enough, then they should have just hyper spaced with the other craft in different directions and yay they all live.

    #43 2 years ago

    just got to 56% on Rotten Tomatoes as the lowest ranked Star Wars movie on that particular rating site. 66,177 votes 12/15/17 3:35 PM mountain.

    #47 2 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    He wanted to pass on and essentially willed himself into a force ghost. I am sure he will be in the 9th movie as a force ghost. He said he had come to the island to die which he did.
    I also suspect Kylo was lying to Rey about her parents to sway her to join him. I still am not convinced her parents are not somebody we know from the original trilogy most likely.

    i wish force ghost anakin would have just told kylo to stop being a d bag and worshiping his helmet and then skip this whole trilogy

    #49 2 years ago
    Quoted from Ballsofsteel:

    So dave,
    you are saying you didn't like it? i'll probably hold off for a couple weeks until all of the screaming kids and their horrible parents have already seen it before i go.

    lol i think its like that saying when your parent says that they arent mad at you just disappointed in you and that is worse

    #51 2 years ago
    Quoted from bigehrl:

    everyone, it's just a movie!! an excuse to get out of the house and eat popcorn. it's designed to make you escape from real life, not compare it to it.
    anyway, i thought it was fun.

    like the, its just a pinball machine saying

    #54 2 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    I don't pay $7000 for a movie.

    well, a lot of the people who bitch about pinball machines never buy them nib, or at all, just play them and still complain

    #56 2 years ago

    I found this funny

    #92 2 years ago
    Quoted from jwilson:

    Not once did I find myself rolling my eyes and saying "SERIOUSLY?!" during this one.
    You all need to let go and declench.

    you didnt roll your eyes at the horrible Leia flying thru space scene?

    Quoted from TigerLaw:

    Light speed ramming was great, but question...why didn’t they just do this to destroy the Death Star in one of the prior movies that featured a Death Star? Seems like a simple solution to the Death Star problem, ram a cruiser into it at light speed.

    yeah, thats what i posted in the first post. like a serious slippery slope with that technique making everything else that ever happened pointless.

    #98 2 years ago
    Quoted from Astropin:

    Here is where I'm at: Better than the prequels...worse than the originals. I gave it 6.5 to 7 rating.
    1) You can certainly drop bombs in space! The ship they are being dropped from has gravity. Therefore the bombs drop from the ship. Once they hit open space they continue on their path at the same speed until they hit something.
    2) You can survive in open space for several minutes. In fact you would die of suffocation before you would die from freezing.
    3) Leia has always been strong in the force. She's used it to some degree in every movie she's been in. Makes sense that she would be even stronger with it at this point.

    lol, you can survive in the vacuum of space for several minutes? good luck with that. according to the google monster:

    "At most, an astronaut without a suit would last about 15 seconds before losing consciousness from lack of oxygen. (That's how long it would take the body to use up the oxygen left in the blood.) Of course, on Earth, you could hold your breath for several minutes without passing out "

    obviously its a sci fi movie and doesnt need to conform to actual science, but it was a bad scene, even just they way the depicted it was bad. I think it was shot poorly and her "flying" style just seemed out of place. but yeah.

    #104 2 years ago
    Quoted from hank527:

    They did explain the tracking. I think they sad they specifically locked on to the main ship.

    yeah, so my question now is why did not they just send all the other ships off in another direction and save everyone that way lol. still dumb.

    even if they back story snoke, that doesnt help this movie stand on its own.

    your balance theory, so where was snoke during 4,5,6 with emperor, vader, luke, obi wan, etc. ?

    #120 2 years ago
    Quoted from jwilson:

    We knew as much about the emperor in 4 through 6 as we did about Snoke - he was the supreme ruler and he was evil. Didn't seem to bother anyone back then. Doesn't bother me now.

    Well that was the status quo of those movies. We we're introduced to that as the norm. His death creates a power vacuum that no one knows how snoke filled

    The only reason phasam was in this movie was to sell toys

    #140 2 years ago
    Quoted from LesManley:

    Now it seems that the new Star Wars trilogy has gone and "flew the Leia". #flewtheLeia

    Lol this made my night #flewtheLeia

    #142 2 years ago
    Quoted from PaulCoff:

    Dude....that chick bugged me. What was up with her necklace? Damn I wanted to like this movie, but it got a “no go.”
    Ever since G. Lucas and is wife divorced the whole Star Wars saga has been cursed.
    » YouTube video
    Rogue One is the only exception.

    Well her necklace was the other half of the necklace of the girl who died bombing the ship. I think it's implied it was her sister.

    #158 2 years ago
    Quoted from TigerLaw:

    I noticed that too and think it’s pretty funny. It’s a Star Wars movie, it was going to have all this discussion anyway...except that if it was a good Star Wars movie literal life long fans such as me wouldn’t have words like “disappointed” littered all in the discussion.
    Out of the eight main movies and Rouge One, this one easily falls in at number nine for me, and it’s not even close...I will not be as excited for number 9 over the next two year and that’s a real shame for me as I really looked forward to this movie.

    This ^ 100%

    #209 2 years ago
    Quoted from Aurich:

    I’m only posting here to say that I think you’re a giant asshole for this thread title. Why the fuck would you post a title like that before most people have seen it? Keep it neutral.
    Whole family just enjoyed it, if you hated it cool, but ffs what a shitty thing to do.

    Having an opinion different than you makes me an asshole?

    Lots of people have agreed with me and lots of people have disagreed with me in this thread but no one has personally attacked people for their opinion.

    Really lame.

    #241 2 years ago

    Not sure but I feel like thowing an all caps *SPOILERS* caption then seeing the word STAR if you were that worried about some random dudes opinion on it that you would just not read the rest of the title or click on the thread?

    I managed to not see a single trailer or read anything about the movie prior to it's release. I pretty much stayed off the internet the whole day before it came out.

    I am sorry if my title somehow ruined the experience for you, that was not the intention.

    The thing is, this movie crushed my love and hope for the franchise and that is why I wrote the title the way I did.

    I think I've shown I'm here for discussion as someone pointed out that I am not...

    I made a poll where 3 of the 4 relevant options are for the movie being better than my view point. If I was just shoving my opinion down everyone's throat and not care about their view I would not have done that.

    I've asked people who liked it questions to perhaps see their view. Some people have answered others can't answer, perhaps because the plot holes are too deep.

    What I don't get is that Rian takes this and sh&+s on what JJ did (regardless if it was good or bad), then they are giving it back to JJ for episode 9? Weird.

    #288 2 years ago
    Quoted from Sinestro:

    Rotten Tomatoes audience reaction is pointless. You can log in as much as you like and troll a movie.
    Fact is, the movie scored an "A" from CinemaScore and 5 stars from ComScore. These are tried and true measurements of audience reaction to a film.
    Also, the move had a slower decline throughout the weekend than TFA did two years ago. That suggest further positive word of mouth
    To the OP, I was caution against being such a wanker. Just because you didn't like the move is no reason to flap your arms around wildly like a chicken with it's head cut off, and troll the internet looking for people to back up your opinion.

    It's like you didn't read any of this thread.

    #292 2 years ago
    Quoted from Sinestro:

    Don't need to beyond your opening rant.

    Lol, having an opinion different than yours makes me a wanker and troll.

    Grow up

    #297 2 years ago
    Quoted from Sinestro:

    Thank you folks.....I WON'T be here all week. Draining this turd.

    Auto correct on my phone.
    Please don't announce drains

    #317 2 years ago
    Quoted from iamabearsfan:

    One thing to also consider is the validity of Rotten Tomatoes. Their credibility is questionable at best these days based on ownership.

    Takes about 5 pages scrolling through IMDB to find a rating higher than 4.

    #354 2 years ago

    I do not understand how the Critics can be so far off from the Audience on something like this (or like Blade Runner)

    I never really thought of it before but its kind of like the politician / lobbyist relationship of you scratch my back I'll scratch yours.

    I assume you don't want to go up against Disney if you are a film critic.

    Remember this story when Disney Banned the LA Times from their movies lol

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/11/disney-abandons-la-times-blacklist-after-backlash-from-film-critics/

    Right now, 116,560 user submitted ratings puts Star Wars: The Last Jedi at 55% while the Critics are at 93% with 292 FRESH ratings and 22 ROTTEN ratings

    Crazy how big of a discrepancy their is between the two

    Also, for the record, I am 32, so its not an issue of me harking back to the gold ol days of seeing these in the theater as a child. I just think there are too many bad parts of this movie to consider it good.

    And for those who called me a troll, I have 2,198 posts which 1 has been moderated with 2,131 Up votes and 86 Down votes for a 96.1% ratio.
    https://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/infinitelives/forum

    I am not a troll, I just do not think this is a good movie.

    #359 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Is this gonna be one of those things where we get Rotten Tomatoes updates from you every 3 days until the end of time?
    We had a guy doing box office receipt reports on the chick Ghostbusters movie for about 2 months, it was fascinating.
    I'm not sure why almost all the critics like this movie, yet only a little more than half of the viewers do. Maybe it's because critics like it more? Or maybe because critics only do 1 review per critic and one human can post thousands of reviews on Rotten Tomatoes? Regardless, I'd wager most of us really don't really give a shit.
    If viewer approval of Last Jedi on Rotten Tomatoes suddenly rose to 90 percent overnight, would you now like it?
    All I can say is enjoy your little moment. The great 2017 Star Wars debate is going to peter out very soon, everybody has already tired of it on Facebook.

    nah, i only posted it see if their was any discussion about critics being more generous to avoid backlash (as Disney already tried to do)

    I havent posted an update for a few days on it lol, I only did it this time to show the discrepancy. If you are so tired of this debate you do not have to participate or read it.

    I do not think their is a massive conspiracy of people tainting the numbers, but maybe there is. Thanks for your added value to the thread.

    #364 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Why would Disney care anyway?

    They sure cared when their dirty laundry about the tax breaks was aired out.

    Your right about it not mattering tho, as people here have said they will see star wars no matter what every time. just like buying nib pins that have no code but the next theme is a must have so i gotta have it.

    I dunno, maybe this thread is gonna... run... out.. of.. gas...

    #365 2 years ago
    Quoted from Pahuffman:

    This was alluded to in Rogue One. The First Order has been working on this tech for quite a while when TLJ comes around.

    yeah, ive conceded that sure they can track the ship, whatever. just gotta hope not to run out of gas.

    Quoted from Pahuffman:

    One of the best things about the movie is Rian Johnson saying, "screw your fan theories." Sometimes it's okay to have to use your imagination. I'm sure these questions will either be addressed in a novel or Ep IV.

    If its fleshed out in a different movie or book that doesnt help this movie to stand on its own.

    Quoted from Pahuffman:

    There's no way the other ships could have held all of the people and necessary equipment to keep the Rebellion operational.

    the 15 people left in the rebellion? And no one even answered Leias distress call, so how is this "the spark" hah.

    #398 2 years ago
    Quoted from Deaconblooze:

    I hated the scene where they contact Maz, for instance.

    I'm guessing the only reason they put her in it is cause JJ wants to use her in 9 and did not want people to forget about her.

    super weird scene as Finn new her for like 5 minutes then her place gets destroyed and Poe never met her, but hey, why not throw her in. Apparently no one else is going to help the resistance at this point seeing how no one came to Leias personal distress call.

    Whats funny is the R2D2 scene was one of the best in the movie and it was just him playing the old clip back to Luke lol.

    I did like Kylos temper tantrum in the elevator where he breaks his helmet.

    Gonna be strange how 9 will take place as the resistance is none existent with no ships or bases or help. Them showing that young kid at the end with the force pull of the broom makes me think they might try to do a time warp of like 10 years or something, kinda like E1 Anakin is a kid then hes a teenager then hes banging Padme.

    Or maybe he is the hero of the new trilogy Rian is going to make

    #400 2 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    They'll probably do a little time skip. Rey needs a little time to discover her place a bit more. The Resistance was said to have a lot of support, but it was very scattered. I'm guessing that reports of Luke showing up will rally a lot of people back to arms and they'll begin to more formally organize or at least get the financial backing they need to arm up.

    If they had a lot of support, why did no one show up? Being scattered across the galaxy doesn't matter with how fast they travel thru the galaxy.

    Luke showed up per say, but now he is gone. Not sure how that will make people want to back them. I'm guessing the average person doesnt see or know about force ghosts so I dont think thats a selling point.

    #402 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Nobody knows he's gone, not even Kylo. Could take the Luke story and legend into interesting places.
    Or maybe it'll just be 2.5 hours of space battles, pointless chases, and light saber battles. Doesn't matter we'll all be there.

    So Leia and Rey sensed that Luke was gone but Kylo cant?

    #449 2 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Leia flying is typical Jedi crap. I don't get why it's an issue. She didn't fly, she just force pulled herself back to the ship. They shot it weird though, so it felt a little funny, but that's not really an odd thing to see a force user do.

    I mean, all she has really ever done with the force is kinda reach out and feel big disturbances in it. She has never done a major force move. No push/pull, no force jump, not anything. Then she gets blasted into outerspace and mary poppins her way back into the ship was just a really bad scene. Especially knowing that her character is not going to go forward with the series. It would have been a perfect death. Kylo had one of his moments of regret and doesnt shoot her while his wingmen do and kills her. That was going to be a great scene. You say typical Jedi crap. she is not a Jedi. She is just force sensitive.

    Quoted from jar155:

    I just don't see why people are feeling like everything was so out of line.

    So this is exactly how we feel that people just let all this bullshit slide and still like it lol. we are not going to change each others minds which is fine, just trying to gain some understanding from each others points of view.

    #452 2 years ago
    Quoted from spfxted:

    Yeah and James Bond would probably be dead before the opening credits in ANY of the films......

    I have no problem with any of the sci-fi portions of this film. I dont give a f&3^ about the lasers and shields, gravity bombs etc.

    I have a problem with the story arc and character development and stupid decisions that dont make sense in the historical context of the series.

    I thought the cinematics and special effects , etc were great, but all that glitter on a turd is just a turd covered in glitter.

    #459 2 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    It's not deep code. It's just a ton of concurrent things running at once. It's just messy. It's totally unfit for the layout too. Total disconnect between physical and software design. Such a miss for the license.

    kinda like TLJ movie

    bam!

    haha

    sorry had to do it

    #468 2 years ago

    Lets keep it to the movie rather than the pinball machine tho fellas

    #470 2 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Yeah, let's discuss good things.

    how did you feel about the maz kanata scene?

    #482 2 years ago
    Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

    Why is everyone freaking out about tracking a ship through hyperspace? Forget Rogue One, Vader and Tarkin did it in STAR WARS for gods sake, following the Millenium Falcon when it escaped the Death Star.

    everyone in the actual movie, i.e. the characters themselves, were freaking out about it and making it seem like a huge deal... like "wow that's impossible how could they do that!"

    #485 2 years ago

    Super Leia

    #516 2 years ago

    Do the Knights of Ren exist in this story anymore?

    #518 2 years ago
    Quoted from lpeters82:

    Their origin story was confirmed in this last episode, but other then that they seemed to have been ignored.

    It seems to be the only existing story line Rian Johnson did not conclude in this middle film.

    But he created a love story of Finn and Rose so we have that to look forward to in 9.

    #523 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    You are a post counter now? Surely you have more to offer.
    EVERYBODY in this thread has repeated their opinion 20 times!

    What do you have to offer to the conversation? You haven't talked about anything regarding the movie and its plot/characters, just hating on the people who did not like the movie. But hey, you didnt like the new terminator movies but you go see them still. So we got that from ya.

    #527 2 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    I saw something last night that said that the Knights of Ren were turned by Snoke and they made up his Elite Guard. Don't know if that was real or not.

    hmm, I would think they were force users tho (Luke saying Ben took some students with him, did they have light sabres in Reys flashback?), and the elite guard didnt show any force moves or light sabres...

    but..

    Kylo Ren and Rey did not use any force moves in that fight either. Would be a bummer if they killed them off too.

    I wonder what Levi thinks? He has added some riveting dialog to this conversation, I wonder if we can get some more great content from him.

    #531 2 years ago

    Remember when Luke was going to KILL BEN and then Ben used the force to crush a building on Luke.

    Then the elite guards were going to KILL KYLO and he was going to die until Rey saved him cause they did not use the force in any way.

    my feeble old 32 year old brain cant handle it!!!!!!!

    #534 2 years ago

    Are all Jedi who live long enough destined to become hermits?

    Obi-Wan Kenobi - Hermit on Tatooine (at least he was tasked with watching over Luke)

    Yoda - Hermit on Dagobah

    Luke - Hermit on Ahch-To (presumably for the access to really good milk and great spear fishing spots) He left a hidden map to find him so he can be a dick to whomever does find him. dope.

    Rey - TBD

    The entire start of 7 is trying to find this map to skywalker. all those poor folks died protecting that map fragment. and all luke wanted to do was drink some non-pasteurized alien tit milk

    #539 2 years ago
    Quoted from GreenMachine19:

    Last complaint I thought the yoga CGI was like 90’s quality CGI, it looked terrible.

    Yoda was a puppet, not cgi

    #547 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    uhh...I mean...the puppet was terrible! It's 2017 why coudn't they use CGI?!

    man, im gonna have to have Zen whop ya upside the head for me lol

    #555 2 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    I think they've backed away from that a fair bit. It was kinda dumb to begin with.

    i think that you can be using the dark side of the force and not be classified as a sith.

    i mean you have Count Dooku, Darth Sidious and Darth Maul all around at the same time. Dooku was a pupil of Yoda and Maul was trained under Sidious presumably. Unless they glossed over when Dooku converted to the dark side right after maul died... they had more than 2 in the prequels.

    #591 2 years ago

    Careful, anymore rotten tomatoes talk and Levi will pop back in with a meme.

    oh screw it, it's at 53% with 139,340 reviews. personally I would think if there were a ton of bots influencing it there would be way more reviews than 140,000.

    #624 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    See, this is why you guys continue to disappoint me.

    Dang, Levi is disappointed in us.

    Well, this movie disappointed us so I guess we are even.

    Were you stoked that Luke left a map to find him so he could be a jerk to the person who did find him?

    The movie was just an incoherent mess and closed all the story lines except:

    Bad guys oppressing the rebels (all 15 of em)

    Sets up 9 nicely

    #685 2 years ago
    Quoted from konjurer:

    Oh yes and another point... CinemaScore, which is actually scientific in their collection of audience data, had audiences scoring it an A.
    https://www.cinemascore.com/

    check out the cinemascores for the prequels.

    phantom menace A-
    Attack of the Clones A-
    Revenge of the Sith A-

    #691 2 years ago
    Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

    I’ve read this whole thread and lots of reviews, commentray and blogs about the movie is. Man, all the complaints - many quite valid - almost had me rethinking why I enjoyed the movie. Almost. I liked it, what can I say?
    I liked it in spite of all the valid criticism, plot holes and lack of follow ups on TFA. I liked it in spite of the fact that I loathe the Poe Dameron character - no charisma, just none - Finn is just meh (TLJ certainly does Finn no favors, and Rose is lame), and Kylo is an awkward, pouty emo villain that kinda bugs me. I liked it even though Laura Dern was horrible!
    I just left the movie feeling exhilarated and wanting more. Just the way a Star Wars movie should make me feel. If this is as bad as it can get, I think we’re in for some fun going forward. We’ll see.

    It is interesting to me that a lot of people I have talked to agree that their are all these major issues but still like it, you are not the only one. Which is great that the Star Wars magic still works for some! I do hope they bounce back with the next one but I have zero anticipation to see what happens like when the Force Awakens ended up till this release. I was super excited to see what happened but all those plot points for me fell flat. They pretty much closed every plot except bad guys vs good guys and added the weird Rose Finn love scene that I dont think ive heard anyone that liked that lol

    Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

    And your point is? The poll in this thread is 248 positive to 79 negative (not counting people who just voted “Star Wars sucks”. That’s one 3 -1 in favor of the movie. On PINSIDE! Where if something can be overly criticized and beaten into the ground it will be. What’s THAT say about TLJ?

    Well, depending on your expectations of this franchise I would say that most people probably want Star Wars to be better than "Decent" with its budget and pedigree

    I look at it more like 242 people think it was Decent or Bad
    and 106 people thought it was Really Good or Great

    I want my Star Wars experience to be really good or great and it looks like the majority of people did not get that.

    I am also surprised that I have positive thumbs up on the initial post with a 36 to 25 right now. I put my flame suit on at the start of this thread expecting to get thrashed because people seem to blindly love things like Star Wars and I wrote this the morning after the midnight release, thinking people would roast me on my take on it.

    It does seem to be a very polarizing movie, whichever opinion you happen to have.

    #694 2 years ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    Well, this was unexpected. I liked it.
    I was talked into actually going out and to a movie theater. This is only the second time in 2017. I’m the guy that hates pretty much every movie that comes out these days, or at least is aggravated by them. I though TFA was a derivative and boring mess. TLJ bogged down a bit here and there, overall I did enjoy it.
    Going back and reviewing all of the complaints, I can’t argue a single one of them. They are all valid and point to weaknesses in the movie. But in general I won’t let space physics get in the way of a movie like this, because if you do that you might as will give up on the entire thing since every single detail is completely wrong and disconnected from reality. And I didn’t see the story in the same way others did.
    This movie has weaknesses and issues as most do, but I never felt overly aggravated. The characters and actors were fine, nothing great but if you compare them to Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman they should all get lifetime Oscar awards. The plot lines weren’t any sillier or more preposterous than any other Star Wars movie. The glue that held it together for me was Luke. Everything he did was exactly what I would think that Luke Skywalker would do. When she hands him the light sword and he tosses it over his shoulder? That to me was awesome. More importantly, it made sense. Well to me anyway. He’s gone beyond that. I don’t get why everyone is angry about his way of living. He is following in the footsteps of Yoda and Obi Wan, they did the exact same thing. It points to a sort of endpoint or possibly even a flaw in being a Jedi. Made perfect sense to me within the Star Wars universe.
    The overall flow and action of the movie was fine for me. It’s interesting that so many people hated it, but then again there are some movies lots of people like that I thought were terrible. There’s no accounting for taste I guess.
    Somehow the Leia flying scene didn’t bother me much. It kind of felt like they were channeling 2001 a bit. That silence when the ship was sliced in half? That I thought was awesomely cool. Like any movie there were a few things that kind stuck on my personal bother-meter.
    The fight scene against the guards. It was ok itself and it had some cool parts. But as it went on, I kept thinking to myself well at this point these two should be able to obliterate this small group of guards in about 2 seconds. I suppose those guards could have been some sort of elite super fighters to protect the emperor.
    Starship Troopers Space Parking. Then again pretty much every space movie has this. You have a fleet of spaceships and you have the entire expense of space to place them into, literally millions of miles in every direction, and you park them all within a few hundred yards of each other. I love the scene in Starship Troopers where when one is attacked it falls and crashes into another one.
    In the end, you can always form your own opinion, who cares what everyone else says anyway? Like it was said earlier, everyone is a critic these days...

    did it make perfect sense that Luke left a map to find him just to tell that person who found him to suck it?

    #696 2 years ago
    Quoted from zr11990:

    The map was there before KR destroyed the Jedi trainees and left Luke for dead because he thought Luke was going to try to kill him?

    now that makes zero sense to me.

    Why would he have a map to a place he isnt at before anything bad happens? it said he disappeared after Kylo killed the students and all that shit went down.

    R2 had the final piece, Im guessing after all that shit went down he made it, sent R2 off and went to hide.

    R2 powered on and showed it after being powered off for a really long time.

    #716 2 years ago
    Quoted from DaveH:

    quit being a D bag

    Lol so you take something I wrote about the movie and quote it like i was talking to someone in this thread (presumably you?)when I have not attacked anyone except called you dad, sorry if that hurt your feelings lol

    Here is where I said the D bag line.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Exhibit G:
    Well, so Force Ghost Yoda comes and visits Luke to give some advice. If they are going to use Force Ghosts and Vader came back to the Light Side as a force ghost, why wouldnt he just tell Kylo to quit being a D bag. But that is not related to this movie. What is questionable is that Yoda blows up the Jedi teachings, but alas, at the end we see Rey had taken all the old texts. Like Yoda and Luke couldnt sense that or what? Whatever.

    Kinda lame of you to try and spin it like I called you a d bag for asking me to change the thread title. Either that is what you are doing or you are directly telling me to stop being a d bag which is not very nice just cause my opinion is different then yours

    #729 2 years ago
    Quoted from DaveH:

    Ummmm, no. I did not say you called me a d bag. I'm still saying that I think it is a d bag move, by you, to have the title of the thread express the opinion. I'm sure others avoid movie information before they see them and don't want to keep seeing it. I still think you should edit the title.
    And just to be very clear, I'm not calling you a d bag. I'm of the opinion that the title of the thread is a d bag move. Is that crystal clear enough? Are you ok that my opinion differs from yours?

    Yup

    Back to the topic at hand :

    If you want to see how much better bombers were a few decades before TLJ watch the Y Wings in Star wars Clone wars Season 1 ep 3. Just a bit more manuverable. Shoulda picked some up from the gamblers on casino town instead of those slow as molasses ones. Shadow Squardron ftw.

    Too bad they didn't have those in the resistance at the start of TLJ.

    #731 2 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    Just an fyi: Most Star Wars movie watchers don’t give a rip about the cartoons.

    The Y Wings were in action in the original trilogy as well. So that tech has been around for a long ass time to switch over to the slow bombers lol

    Also, I'd venture to guess their are more star wars fans who have watched the cartoons then not. A whole generation of fans grew up with them and it's their main link to the franchise...

    The logic being not everyone who has seen 4,5,6 has seen the cartoon, but everyone who watched the cartoon has seen 4,5,6 etc.

    #752 2 years ago
    Quoted from konjurer:

    CinemaScores uses the magic of statistical analysis to determine the overall grade. They are not judging the film one way or the other. They simple take statistically significant samples from theaters across many regions. Much, much more accurate summary of audience sentiment than Rotten Tomatoes user reviews. So they just might know what they are talking about.

    konjurer so you agree with cinemascores A- rating for every prequel ?

    #758 2 years ago
    Quoted from racer_x:

    They're on record oon saying there wasn't a big, bulletin board plot outline for this trilogy...they're literally making it up as they go.
    This was a trilogy to restart the money making machine, not to tell a story someone had had in their head for years. Sketchy as they were, at messy the prequels gave us that.

    What I dont get is this is suppose to end the Skywalker story arc of Star Wars, right? and RJ gets a new trilogy to reboot the franchise later.

    BUT
    They killed off Han, Luke is dead (probably a force ghost) and Leia survived this movie but they arent using her in the next one so the Skywalker storyline is dead unless you count Kylo Ren. So he must have to die or be turned in the last one. If they turn him its the same shit as Vader and people will complain. If he dies I think that will be a better ending. Who knows, but I think they shoulda stuck more with the OG characters with this trilogy if you wanted them connected. if not they shoulda started it off after they were all dead and you could still have done the whole Rey and Kylo Ren thing without poorly using the older characters. I would bet that the kid at the end in casino world will be a prominent character in RJ's new trilogy if he still gets one. I doubt they could manage to get a 10 year old with no training in the force to be a big part in the final film, even tho Rey is super duper awesome at becoming the best force user ever sans training.

    Speaking of training, at the end of TFA Snoke tells Hux to bring Kylo to him "to finish his training" when the super duper planet death star 3.0 is about to blow
    I dont think we saw any new force moves from Kylo in TLJ, did he even ever use the force? Besides talking to Rey which Snoke said he facilitated... I honestly cant remember if he did besides the lightsabre snoke kill and trying to grab the lightsabre with the force when Rey and him pulled it in two.

    #760 2 years ago
    Quoted from Neal_W:

    If you add the 'who cares' and 'garbage' votes in this thread, compared to the '> than prequels', 'good', and 'great' votes the pinsider opinion is 70% positive. (Higher if you drop the who cares votes considering they didn't see it.)

    Well, or you could look at it like this:

    88 people thought it was garbage

    113 thought it was really good or great

    This would remove the people who thought it was decent, which I would argue that we should hope for better than "decent" for Star Wars. being better than the prequels doesnt take too much (for most people)

    not a huge difference on the extremes

    88 garbage (worst possible option)
    60 great (best possible option)

    #799 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Yeah I’m overcompensating for my small penis by insisting it’s stupid to bitch about three women being involved in Star Wars. It’s like I bought a corvette or something!
    Great angle bro!
    Why are you bitching at me? Over 70 percent of the people here liked this movie. Take it up with them. I just thought it was “decent, better than the prequels.”

    interesting you bring that up

    if you take out the 161 who said it was decent, better than the prequels (which isn't much of a ringing endorsement and doesn't necessary mean they "liked it")

    90 say garbage

    53 say really good

    61 say great

    more like 60/40 i would reckon. Still towards the liked it but not a huge majority are all the way on board.

    I really want to hear some more from the people who said it was "great" with some reasons why it stands out as one of the best in the series for them.

    #803 2 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    You can reckon all you want. You are the guy who decided on a poll with 5 answers, when a simple “did you watch and like Star Wars yes/no?” Would have sufficed. As it is now about 70 percent of responders to your straw poll liked the movie. Sorry that doesn’t jibe with your hypothesis that everybody hates it.

    i dont think its as black and white as a yes / no but thank you for your opinion on my poll creating abilities.

    i never once said i thought everyone hated it lol. I created this thread to vent and assumed I would get bashed harder than i have. I started it off with /flame suit on thinking i would get destroyed for shitting on a franchise almost everyone is in love with

    #811 2 years ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Is that what they’re charging for 3D IMAX these days? No wonder you’re pissed.

    im guessing he is adding in tickets for family members / loved ones or concession $$ in that.

    #817 2 years ago
    Quoted from konjurer:

    I wish this thread would be more about why we liked or disliked the movie versus trying to convince the other side why they are stupid morons. No one is going to change someone’s mind in a Pinside debate.

    This ^^

    I really am curious as to what made it "great" for the people who said it was one of the best in the series. I haven't heard a lot about what made it great for people.

    A lot of the feedback has been the "its a movie, let it immerse you and don't take it too seriously"
    which is fine for some random action movie or comedy, but a flagship franchise such as Star Wars that most have been invested in emotionally for a really long time needs more than that for me to give it a pass on the things I found issue with. Especially when its the 2nd in a trilogy and have the first one to lead up to it.

    I don't expect for people's minds to change but from this thread and others points of view I am not as upset about the Rey coming from nowhere angle, so there's that.

    #827 2 years ago
    Quoted from konjurer:

    What I liked...
    Character Development
    I thought they moved the characters forward. They did seem to focus on Rey and Kylo Ren most. There was a lot of interaction between them when they were Force-modem connected by Snoke. Their relationship grew as they communicated and wrestled (mentally) with each other (much like this thread) to convince the other side that they could slide over. This was a key theme. Luke saw that Rey was teetering on the edge of the dark side (ie, the dark hole).
    Meanwhile, Kylo Ren also struggled with his light-side demons as he chose not to kill his mother. We saw Poe's character develop as more of a headstrong, anti-authority character. Meanwhile the director tried to start this Finn and Rose relationship as they introduced Rose as a love interest character for Finn - I think the Rose/Finn relationship was the least successful character development - no spark there for me.
    Luke's character had changed. He had made mistakes. He had become cynical, old, curmudgeonly. He had become a shadow of his former self; disconnecting from the force that had brought him both glory and pain.
    The scene between Luke and R2-D2 was special. Luke and R2 had come a long ways from their chance meeting so long ago. R2-D2 let's Luke know that he's being an ass. When R2-D2 shows Luke the video message from Leia it really brought the story full circle. Luke decides to train Rey. Brilliant moment by the director/writers in my opinion.
    The Battles
    The battles kicked ass! The opening bombing scene on the Dreadnought was awesome. I'm not going to let a little thing like space physics get in the way of a fun battle. I mean come on people, nearly every sci-fi flick asks you to suspend physics!!! Clearly the scene was inspired by WWII bombers.
    The lightspeed jump through the other dreadnought was crazy! The silence was very jolting as Holdo rams the Rebel cruiser through Snoke's ship. It was a great moment. At the end of the day, Star Wars is about "space war" and the battle sequences were pure Star Wars! Huge ships, overwhelming odds, etc. It delivered for me.
    BTW, I hated the Laura Dern character keeping a secret about the ultimate plan. Upon reflection, it did make sense. Poe had been demoted, disregarding the chain of command and wasn't acting trustworthy. Why would they share the plan? that would be kept as secret as possible. Just my take.
    I also thought the final battle with Kylo Ren kicked ass. The shot from behind Luke as he faced the M6-ATs that was chilling. Ren opens fire on Luke in a massive barrage of fire power. Freaking awesome scene with Luke brushing the dust from his shoulder. Luke is BACK and badder than ever!
    Humor
    I loved the humor. I guess I wasn't married to all of the set-up from TFA. When Luke tosses his ligh saber over his shoulder, the theater exploded with laughter. It was one of many very funny moments. Star Wars has always had its humor. I think RJ added his stamp to the series by cranking up the humor a notch. I thought the Porgs were hilarious but not integral to any plot line like the ewoks. Porgs became tension-releasers during the battle sequences. The scene with Chewy trying to eat a porg was hilarious. The audience in my showing seemed to love the porg humor.
    Twists on old SW devices
    So many of the traditional SW ploy devices were used in TLJ. However, they weren't always used in the same way. Snoke was the new Emperor, the new super villian. Except he was killed unexpectedly. Nice twist. I think director was trying to get us to think Kylo Ren was going "good" on us but the twist was he sought to be the Supreme Leader. Snoke did sense resolve in Kylo Ren but it was his undoing. People complained that Snoke was never developed but neither was the Emperor in the first three movies.
    The other old device re-deployed was the Obi-Wan, "if you strike me down" moment. I'm really surprised that some people didn't get the ending. You may not have liked it but it was consistent with the SW universe. The twist was that when he let Kylo Ren strike him down, he wasn't really there at all. Yet it has the same effect... like Obi Wan and Yoda before him, it was his time to move on and become a Force Ghost. The scene of him silhouetted against the dual suns was the book-end to his life. It hearkened back to when he first started his journey on Tatooine where he stood against the backdrop of the dual suns and made the decision to fight the empire.
    TLJ was a dense story with a lot plots and sub plots going on. Relationships were forming and other characters were coming to an end. For me, the movie made many mistakes. For example, continuity editing could have been better. It was hard to piece together Rose "dying" and making it back to the bunker. A simple shot of Finn struggling to pull her through the ensuing battle would have explained that. Rey goes through training with Luke but we see very little indication of the amount of training... was it really 3 lessons? How long did it take? A few extra moments on film could have cleared up a lot. Overall, the good exceeded the bad and the pace was fast enough for me that I didn't linger on the absurdity of space physics and other non sequiturs.

    Thanks for your take.

    Do you have any issues with light speed ramming ships making everything else in the universe irrelevant? That is one of my biggest issues, it makes every other space battle meaningless if you can just light speed thru ships/death stars/planets etc. I always thought they had to take time to plot their hyperspace jumps and the system would not allow you to go thru something.

    Did you like the Leia superman marry poppins scene?

    #839 2 years ago
    Quoted from konjurer:

    Maybe I'm not understanding the problem with the scene.

    So basically, my issue with it is:

    Take some Droid maned ships and fire them into the death star and volia you win. Or any other major space battle. Cheapens the whole universe imo

    #854 2 years ago

    I think the Poe actor over acts and is hard to believe what he's portraying.

    #880 2 years ago
    Quoted from TigerLaw:

    Heck, I agree. Not like they can “ruin it” any further. If Kennedy and the other ladies feel they need Leia’s character for whatever reason then recast her. If they want to just mention in the opening credits of the next movie that she died, fine with me also.
    It’s not like she is really key to any trilogy plot line they have built up...

    Yeah, and no one came to her aid when she sent out her "personal" distress signal, so no one in the Galaxy cares if she dies.

    #882 2 years ago
    Quoted from pinballOsp:

    I can't believe I am going to attempt to use logic in this thread but what the hell
    My point was that -- feelings aside -- there was nowhere to go with the Star Wars universe after episode VI: the story was 100% complete with nowhere left to go with it.
    The only option a writer/director/whatever were to change the rules of the universe (such as that the force can apparently be with anyone now). But that creates obvious inconsistencies with the past and also, has pissed off just about every Star Wars fan -- as seen in this thread.
    So if your beef is about the story, then I claim there was nowhere else for them to go.
    And if your beef is about why they mucked with Star Wars in the first place... obviously the answer is money. It's not easy to create a financially viable multi-episode franchise: it's a huge risk for a film studio. And Star Wars is still making a shit load of money: not just at the movies but in the licensing (maybe more in licensing?).

    There are a lot of really great books that took place after episode 6 that I found way more compelling than what we got from Disney

    #932 2 years ago
    Quoted from PinFever:

    no. not sure what you are talking about . just like when a ship comes or goes from the death star bay, doors are always open and no air sucking out . there is an Oxygen shield or shield of some kind in place so ships come in and out of the bay into the vacuum of space without disturbing trajectory // u have a point of the bombs floating around once leaving the shield as the vacuum of space will not guide them on there own.. if they get out of the bay , they need some kind of propulsion or magnetic means of travel.. / anyway 2 cents added

    those shields usually look blue in every other instance in the star wars universe. here it was invisible.

    #934 2 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    All other Star Wars canon has been tossed out, why bother with consistent shield color?

    haha #facts

    #981 2 years ago

    At least in the prequels you cared about the characters, even if it was because of their roles later in the franchise.

    if poe died a the start of the next movie who cares
    if finn dies at the start of the next movie who cares
    if rose dies at the start of the next movie who cares
    if maz katana dies at the start of the next movie who cares
    if leia dies at the start or off screen who cares
    snokes dead, lukes dead.
    if hux dies at the start of the next movie who cares
    when phasma comes back to die again to sell toys, who cares

    who else do we have? The droids and Chewie the last from the OG trilogy

    so we have Rey and Kylo Ren? a kid with a mop?

    #983 2 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Cared about anakin , padma, Jimmy Smitts, Mace windu? 100,0000,000000 clones, twice as many droids, the younglings, the Senate... Wtf are you talking aboot?

    more invested in those characters than anything in TLJ

    when Qui-gon Jinn was killed that was more emotional than anything in this movie.

    do you like kylo rens struggle between light/dark more than anakins?

    Anakin was passionate about something that caused him to stray and fall down to the dark side and you see it thru Padme, Palpatine, Mace Windus death, friendship with Obi wan, etc as a progression. Maybe not the best acting/dialogue but its there.

    if people are saying to look past all the BS in TLJ, then they should be able to look past the BS in 1 2 3 lol.

    Kylo is an emo kid who apparently went to the dark side cause luke was going to kill him? but wasnt? Kylo hasnt cared about anyone really, killed his dad, didnt kill his mom, who cares. We dont know why he went down the dark side, except luke somehow sensed it in him so he was going to kill him which then turned him to the dark side? wtf.

    #985 2 years ago
    Quoted from guyincognito:

    Saw the new movie via a downloaded bootleg (It's no Death Blow, that's for sure!) after reading the plot on Wikipedia. I enjoyed it and will watch it again in the theaters after I rewatch The Force Awakens.
    Star Wars: The Last Jedi Makes The Force Awakens Much More Interesting
    https://kotaku.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi-makes-the-force-awakens-much-m-1821721569/amp
    I like the Star Wars franchise but I don't consider the films a religion or even some of the best films ever made. I can't relate to all the triggered SW nerds who are whinging about how their childhood is ruined.
    » YouTube video

    you can buy pinball machines but cant pay for a $10 movie ticket? pretty lame.

    #989 2 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Hey man that's 3 movies full of garbage against 1, no fair!

    lol ill give ya that

    #1012 2 years ago

    so which characters in the last jedi have great character development?

    #1122 2 years ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    I'd be very surprised if Luke's back in non-ghost form next time. They would have had to sell killing him off up and down the chain at Disney, hard to believe they'd reverse that decision now. I think JJ would do better not to touch some of the wonky elements of TLJ (flying Leia, suicide bombing) and just move forward with the story.
    The Rey's parents thing was lame because they made a deal out of it in TFA, but now that it's been addressed I think they should just drop that as well -- it's not like Anakin's parents were famous Jedi, and his midichlorians were off the scale, for God's sake!
    Speaking of midichlorians, here's a super-cool table I found on google, culled by nerds from the expanded universe.

    Anakin Skywalk/Darth Vader (27,000) is the consensus #1 on this list. His count was considered to be off the charts.
    Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious (19,000) is usually ranked #2, the most powerful Sith aside from Darth Vader, and slightly above...
    Yoda (17,000) is the most powerful Jedi ever.
    Luke Skywalker (15,000) is the son of Anakin Skywalker.
    Leia Organa (15,000) is Luke Skywalker's twin, so she has an identical midichlorian count.
    Anakin Solo/Ben Solo/Kylo Ren (13,500) the son of Leia Organa and Han Solo
    Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus (13,500) the Sith who defeated...
    Obi-Wan Kenobi (13,400) the Jedi who defeated...
    Darth Maul (12,000)

    Now doesn't that add so much to the mystique of the Star Wars universe? Thanks George Lucas, wish we had you back!

    What about Snoke? oh wait.

    #1124 2 years ago

    according to this chart:
    http://starwarsuniverse2.tripod.com/id9.html

    Chewbacca has a count of 7200! WOOHOO

    thanks for making me aware of the fact that such charts exist lol

    taken from the above link:
    "Midichlorian is pronounced MI-DEE-CLOOR-EE-AN
    NOTE: Midichlorians to DO NOT solely determine the strength and power of a Jedi Knight or Sith Lord. Many other things make a Force-User great. Example: Luke Skywalker may have less midichlorians than Anakin, BUT Luke did not turn to the Dark Side, he practiced constantly, and it was just simply Luke's destiny to re-create the Jedi Order and become the most powerful Jedi ever. Anakin may have been the Chosen One, but you can just say: Luke succeeded where Anakin failed. For more info, email me at JOn13377@AOL.com."

    so who is going to Contact JOn13377@AOL.com to find out what Snoke and Rey, Kylo etc

    #1130 2 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Doing re-shoots of re-shoots four months out from the premier date is the height of absurdity.
    Disney at this point needs to back off and state "movie will be done when its done" and drop the posted date.
    I'd rather see a good movie a few months late than a mediocre or crap movie that shows up on time.

    you assume Disney cares about it being a good movie. having it delayed costs them more money and thats all that matters to them. Clearly they dont mind shitting on the franchise

    #1133 2 years ago

    are they still planning on doing a live action tv show? that is going to probably be horrible lol

    #1157 2 years ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Here's some exclusive footage of the new Han at work:
    » YouTube video
    Wonder what kind of midichlorian count he's got going to pull off those rope tricks?

    Well, WONDER NO MORE! according to our friend JOn13377@AOL.com over at http://starwarsuniverse2.tripod.com/id9.html

    Han clocks in at 1500, lowest on the ladder tied with Boba Fett, Jango Fett and Owen Lars. Apparently you need 7,000 to train as a jedi, so Chewie totally could have had a lightsabre-laser-crossbow-action-triple-deathray, oh wait thats gonna be in the next one.

    or maybe the Han movie will show where Chewie turns down yoda to train as a jedi and instead finds a love for grilling porgs

    #1165 2 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    Also as you mentioned the toy sales will suffer, the repeat viewer numbers will be greatly reduced. You can also reasonably project ho hum numbers for other collateral earnings such as dvds, on demand and merchandise licensing of the TLJ title. Then again you don't have to look too far to see how Disney feels about TLJ than RJ being shown the door and old bland Mr. Lens Flash brought back for Ep 9 to do damage control. I'm just waiting on Solo to hit the fan.

    I dunno, they are giving him a whole new trilogy for himself... unless they canned that which i dont think they did.

    #1172 2 years ago

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    #1190 2 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    http://www.slashfilm.com/rian-johnsons-star-wars-trilogy/
    There is no trilogy....not even an outline. Also I’ll eat my hat if he helms anymore SW films.

    quoted for future hat eating updates

    #1197 2 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Avatar is a complete and utter piece of shit from the first frame forward. The ONLY thing it had going for it was Stephen Lang.

    I like the avatar pinball machine more than any of the star wars pinball machines

    #1201 2 years ago

    the worst part about Ackbar's death is the characters did not even acknowledge it. blink and you miss it

    #1204 2 years ago
    Quoted from jeffgoldstein2:

    New poll what is more disappointing, Star Wars 8 or the new Stern Star Wars!

    the movie, the pins have always sucked, the movies have a few good ones at least

    #1232 2 years ago

    I think the biggest take away for me, and others I have spoken to who didn't like it much, is that we don't give a f what happens in the next episode.

    Will be interesting to see how the numbers play out in the future.

    This will definitely be the first one i don't purchase.

    #1238 2 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Are you not counting Solo movie as a SW moving you won't be seeing?

    I don't think I ever said I won't see another SW movie.

    I said I wont see the next 1 day 1 like all the others I've been able to in my life and that I probably wont ever watch TLJ again.

    I have no idea about the Solo movie but I doubt I will see it day 1 either, maybe wait and see what word of mouth is before I spend any money on it. Probably just wait for redbox tbh tho.

    #1242 2 years ago

    im a 32 non grayed space nerd //sad face

    #1254 2 years ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Ugh. "Han meets Chewie and Lando" sounds like another story that no one needs to see acted out. Were they roommates at college or something? I'm not enthusiastic.
    The only news I've been happy to see re: the Solo movie is that Woody Harrelson's in it. Love that guy. Not sure he fits in the SW universe, mind you, but he's usually fun to watch.

    Im guessing its going to be how Han won the Falcon from Lando or something O_o. Throw in some Kessel Run mumbo jumbo and volia.

    i also anticipate more really bad jokes

    what are the odds that he wins the falcon from lando at Maz Katana's place just to make her character seem relevant??

    #1272 2 years ago
    Quoted from Coz:

    Hopefully they will answer a lot of the lingering questions that weren’t answered in the Last Jedi

    which questions are you referring to? I feel like the answered / ended all the story lines

    - Snoke - dead chump doesnt matter
    - Rey - parents where nobodies and abandoned her
    - Resistance - reduced to 15 people and no one came to their rescue
    - Luke - cut himself off from the force for 30 years and is dead / ghost status
    - Kylo - decided to be a bad mamajama cause Luke stood over his bed one night with a lightsabre (not turned on)

    Only real thing I can think of are the Knights of Ren if they are still a thing or not.

    #1274 2 years ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    It’s actually 16 - you left out that stable boy with the force broom.

    broom kid is actually Finn and Roses love child in the new one where when they fast traveled they altered the space time continuum and they obvi boned and the baby flew thru a worm hole and ended up in the stable a few years older and with force. duh

    #1279 2 years ago

    Mad Max meets Fast and the Furious meets Oceans 11 meets Star Wars

    #1294 2 years ago

    i feel like they could have walked into any comic-con type event and crowd-sourced from the first 10 people they saw a better story than TLJ

    #1309 2 years ago
    Quoted from Ballsofsteel:

    I felt like I was watching "Days of our Lives", and somehow Luke skywalker...wasn't luke skywalker.

    Well Mark Hamill said he thought of him as "Jake Skywalker" when he was playing him lol

    #1320 2 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    I saw what you did. Well Law, I must object to your clever feminization of Rian's name.

    he called him rainman dood

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    #1343 2 years ago

    yeah this guy nailed it

    #1353 2 years ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    Hey remember when JJ Abrams spent two months justifying his choice in The Force Awakens?
    Oh wait he didn't...
    On Monday we get the Han Solo trailer! The production that is every bit as much of a disaster as Justice League but Disney is better at spin than WB.

    if it was a good trailer they would have ponied up to show it during the super bowl. not a good sign they went with the monday after it lol. its not like it isnt ready at this point.

    #1400 2 years ago

    I'm pretty sure I saw Maz in the Han trailer, called that. Probably how they will try and tie Maz to Lando/ Bespin to get Luke's lightsaber.

    #1425 2 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    First Iron Man was the best, Ant Man was very enjoyable. Guardians of the Galaxy was a fun romp. Winter Soldier had good tone to it and a little different, more a political thriller. If you liked Ant Man, you might like Thor Ragnarok. It is a slightly silly "buddy cop" movie and fun as hell. Cate Blanchett is a delightful villain who chews the scenery with abandon.
    Doctor Strange was decent but his story is really no different than Tony Starks in Iron Man.
    More Solo news; Artist for Lucasfilm claims Solo movie makes The Last Jedi look like masterpiece.
    https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/han-solo-movie-said-be-utter-pos-former-lucasfilm-employee
    " I'm just tired of being complicit with the pernicious Mouse who couldn't care less about the quality of these films, they just want lots of flash to separate the proverbial "fool from his money". I assume you're a big fan of SW, and you're obviously talented, so I'll give you a heads up here without going into any specific details; If you were disappointed with TLJ like many other fans, don't see "Solo". If you hated TLJ, trust me when I tell you that "Solo" is going to make TLJ look like (insert favorite movie here). Honestly, don't waste your time or money going to see "Solo", wait for it to come out on HBO, STARZ, Showtime, etc. I haven't seen the final edit yet, just the scenes I've worked on. Given my experience with the last 3 Mouse SW movies and getting to see the final edit a week or 2 before the theatrical release, "Solo" is going to be an utter POS. Seriously, it's going to be an abomination. If you don't believe that I've worked on the Mouse SW movies, you can find my name in the credits of all of them including "Solo", plus quite a few others : "Benjamin Flynn" (Digital Artist for Lucas)."

    Wouldn't him saying that be like career suicide?
    I don't think my expectations could be lower lol

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    #1516 1 year ago

    lol, they added a bunch of bs to try and fix TLJ in the novel apparently. like Rey learned a bunch of jedi tricks from Kylo when they were force connected.

    shits trash

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/03/13/star-wars-the-last-jedi-10-new-revelations-from-the-novelization

    #1597 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    Re-watched it last night.

    i applaud you for taking the effort to sit though that trash again. I do not think I could ever put myself through it again.

    #1600 1 year ago

    sooo, i just watched that piece with RJ and MH... omg that maniacal laugh at the beginning, I didnt realize I could dislike that dude anymore than I already did.

    #1612 1 year ago

    Lol doesn't matter they had the perfect spot to kill her in space and fix the problem as well as add to kylo rens mixed feelings that she died and he didn't pull the trigger but nooooo. She survived for no reason at all, except to Mary Poppins thru space

    #1622 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Bored last night after a day off getting caught up on stuff, tossed it on the tube.
    Opinion not changed one iota. Found myself fast forwarding through a number of scenes. Everything with Rose was horrible dreck. Casino sequence awful. Watched the scene between Admiral purple hair Tumblerlina and Poe and just thought it was just terrible. Doing some management courses now as I have an upcoming staff meeting and have to set an agenda for improving teamwork, staff motivation, corporate structure changes, etc and thought how horrible a leader/motivational character she was.
    Just cringe-worthy to an extreme.
    Carrie Fisher in the originals was great, in TLJ not sure if she was just phoning it in or the years of drug abuse taking its toll.
    A few gems that could have better if reworked- The bombing run in the beginning while eye rolling in itself could have been something great in another setting, some great optics. A few scenes on the island with Luke and Rey had potential. The fight scene in the throne room still the highlight of the whole movie in my opinion. CGI Snoke another high spot and they killed him, what a waste.

    Here is hoping you rented it rather than bought it!

    #1625 1 year ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    Ok so after getting the Blu-ray and trying to watch it again, what I did to make it easier to watch is, after every single line a female says to a male, just add “... with your dumb penis!” to the end of it. It’s brilliantly satisfying and makes you understand what Kathleen Kennedy was trying to go for.

    Well, doesn't matter to her, she got what she wanted, your $25 for the Blu Ray!

    #1689 1 year ago

    Chewie is probably eating porgs at some dive and han saves him from the cholesterol

    #1698 1 year ago

    Cringed at the "I've got a good feeling about this" line.

    #1707 1 year ago
    Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

    Yep something seems “off”. They should have made a Lando prequel. Now THAT I will see, you know that would be funny

    I still think Lando should have been the code breaker they were seeking in TLJ

    #1710 1 year ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Man why do you want to pull more characters into that POS movie? My god I wish none of the characters I like had to live through it.

    I'm surprised they didn't show Lando in the jail on casino land for being a womanizer

    #1717 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Don’t you have to get some action to be a womanizer? Lando took a failed swing at Leia, but you can’t blame him she was one of like three ladies in space at that time. His odds would be much improved in the newer films.

    You think anything that happened in the other films matters in TLJ

    #1722 1 year ago

    haven't looked at this since about the time it came out

    Rotten Tomatoes 47% user 91% critics

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_wars_the_last_jedi/

    #1742 1 year ago
    Quoted from Underspin:

    Those movies were like getting a BJ from a woman wearing braces.

    oddly still enjoyable with some regret sprinkled in?

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    #1807 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    The First Order reward del Toro for what exactly? Telling them to look for small transports escaping the big ship? (Holdo's Secret Amazing Plan) Problem is... HOW DID HE KNOW THAT?
    The question then is "how COULD he know that?". Finn/Rose could have told him, then he betrays their trust. But if they knew [Holdo's] plan they wouldn't have done the Casino Mission in the first place. del Toro betrays them with information he could only gain if they had no reason to find him in the first place.
    It's storytelling so bad it becomes a logic paradox.

    if it didnt have the star wars named attached to it there is no way it would have near the rating it got from critics... its just so bad on so many levels.

    #1813 1 year ago

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/05/17/obi-wan-kenobi-movie-rumored-to-be-happening-will-be-a-direct-prequel-to-a-new-hope

    well, looks like we are getting a Obi Wan movie that is a prequel to A New Hope.

    Sooo, rouge one happened right before a A New Hope, but they killed off all those characters so who knows if there is any cross over with that.

    so we have ep 1,2,3, 3b?, 4,5,6 ,7,8,9 ??

    would be cooler to have a younger obi wan than old man obi wan imo, not that i really care anymore

    #1825 1 year ago

    wonder how many of y'all will cave and go opening night

    like the, "ill never buy stern again, ooooohh shiny new toy with my fav theme, plops down money, fuck there is //insert complaint [code,build quality, toys etc]"

    #1890 1 year ago
    Quoted from TigerLaw:

    What a missed opportunity with all three of those people (Harrison Ford’s role in TFA was good, the others not so much). Look what Karate Kid was able to do with its two “old guys” in the amazing Cobra Kai series. Give them a story to tell and use the old characters...not hard, but didn’t fit Kennedy’s personal agenda from what I could tell.

    lol, Ford was cringe-worthy, like all the times he was amazed at Chewies crossbow... like youve known each other for decades bro, youve seen that thing so many times, but now its worth throwing in one liners about it hah.

    #1908 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    Sounds like Solo is long, boring, bland and filled with fan service.
    So the Star Wars fans should love it! Since that basically also describes Rogue One.

    does Lando bang Chewie or what?

    #1919 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Can’t we say bad Star Wars movies are better than no Star Wars moves?

    no

    #1925 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pimp77:

    I never got his popularity...he has cool armor, that’s it! He did nothing to capture Han (Darth Vader and crew did the work and handed him off). Sure he escaped Cloud City and made the delivery to Jabba, but after that? Got punked and eaten by the sarlaac! He had maybe 5 minutes of screen time.

    His appearance/armor was what drew me to him as a cool character when I was a kid.

    there is a book i read as a kid which chronicles his escape from the sarlacc. not sure if that is cannon or not

    #1933 1 year ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Sub 100M opening weekend would be an unthinkable disaster for Disney & KK, sitting inside their bubble up in their high castle. Fingers crossed it happens.
    Can't wait to see the bullshit "star wars fatigue" explanations for poor ticket sales.

    Lol there is already an article on CNN talking about "star wars fatigue"

    If these were done right people would eat them up like every marvel movie that drops every 6 months

    #1939 1 year ago

    The last Jedi or solo ?

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    #2003 1 year ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Should change the name of this thread to *SPOILERS* All Star Wars Films Discussion *SPOILERS*
    This thread has branched out quite a bit from a TLJ discussion for some time, and there's a pretty good discussion in here. Prequels, Original trilogy, TFA, TLJ, Rogue one, Solo have all been discussed here.
    It will be pretty lame following every new SW thread that pops up every time a new movie comes out.

    Done, went with

    "*SPOILERS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad and other Star Wars talk *SPOILERS*"

    Cant let TLJ off the hook completely

    #2035 1 year ago

    The Last Jedi is even ruining the lives of those who worked on it. Pretty shitty tho to harass someone because you didnt like the movie, no matter how horrible it was.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/05/star-wars-the-last-jedis-kelly-marie-tran-deletes-her-instagram-posts-allegedly-due-to-harassment

    Rian still thinks the majority of people liked the movie tho

    "On social media a few unhealthy people can cast a big shadow on the wall, but over the past 4 years I’ve met lots of real fellow SW fans," Johnson tweeted today. "We like & dislike stuff but we do it with humor, love & respect. We’re the VAST majority, we’re having fun & doing just fine."

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    #2099 1 year ago

    "In other Star Wars 9 news, the working title was recently revealed to be trIXie after originally being called Black Diamond. No reason was given for the name change, but it's only a working title, so there's nothing to worry about there. As for the tone of the film, J.J. Abrams has said that he won't let any of the negativity from Star Wars fans surrounding The Last Jedi impact his work on the upcoming Star Wars 9, which means that those Rose Tico haters are about to get a lot more of the character, especially if this new report ends up being proven true. Star Wars 9 hits theaters on December 20th, 2019 and you can read the report for yourself over at Reddit."

    cool, dont listen to the feedback just keep piling on the bs haha

    #2111 1 year ago

    Does the darth vader from this clip:

    look to be the same darth vader from this clip:

    in terms of speed/agility/mobility

    hmmm, how far apart are these two scenes in the timeline?

    #2129 1 year ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    While I've read nothing to indicate this, I'm already convinced that the GOT producers Benioff & Weiss trilogy will focus on the Old Republic period. Simply because it makes so much sense. These guys already have experience taking a complex ancient fantasy world & turning it into a huge success. They are great storytellers. They develop complex characters & compelling dialog, and include shocking narrative twists. They know how to film exciting action sequences. They know how to adapt complex source material, and there's tons of Old Republic content to tap into. How many Emmy's have they won?
    These guys are a perfect fit. Give them years to develop a well thought out storyline with compelling characters, that explores the ancient myths of Star Wars Universe. Home fricking run.

    Will Disney let them go R rated with it tho? Probably not? GOT is pretty gritty and raw, not sure how Disney will feel about that when they are trying to sell toys to the kiddos. I agree that it could be amazing but i am not familiar with anything else these two have done and if they can tone it down

    #2143 1 year ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    Want to know what Episode 9 should be about at this point? Just have BB8 and the Porgs drop C3PO and R2 off at a scrap yard, blow up the Falcon and then the rest of the movie is spent with them hunting down Chewie, the last surviving original character. Lol.

    lol that made me laugh at my desk

    #2154 1 year ago

    unfortunately there is no way that will happen, its a lose/lose situation for disney.

    time wise there is no way they would delay e9 for this anyways

    unless these people gave them 4 billion usd not gonna happen.

    we just need to let this trilogy die and move on.

    #2167 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Fans will surely do the same with TLJ once it's out on Bluray.

    been out for a hot minute

    #2196 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    You have to love Mark Hamill, he must be a fun interview. Also an interesting read about his method acting, Luke as a disillusioned hippie.

    he just doesnt give a f about trashing the process lol

    he must know he is not in the last episode otherwise youd think hed tow the company line

    #2199 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    But wha?
    He was in 10 seconds of first movie and now Carie Fisher is dead don’t it make more sense to have Mark in this film?
    I hope they don’t do all that CGI Leia but who gives a crap anymore.

    just a hunch but who knows what JJ will do. Maybe he will make episode 8 a dream lol

    #2202 1 year ago

    cut chewie chewing on porgs please

    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    I downloaded TFK the other day. Based on the changes I've read, sounds like a huge improvement, but since Luke is still a grumpy old bitch, it can never truly be fixed. Rose is just another Resistance fighter, not featured at all. Fynn role significantly downgraded. Holdo becomes friend of Leia, not an Admiral. No running out of gas. No Phasma or DJ. No Casino or parking tickets. No SWJ agendas.
    This cut just makes it barely tolerable, and boils it down to a focused Luke/Rey/Kylo/Snoke story, bookended by a Resistance escape. Curious how it plays onscreen.
    1) Cut the awful Poe jokes at the beginning
    2) Cut Finn/Rose/DJ/Phasma side arc altogether, including Maz
    3) Cut the "Low on Fuel" arc completely
    4) Cut Leia being blown into space
    5) Cut Ach-To alien nuns scene
    6) Cut Luke/Rey joke about “reaching out” and slapping on the hand
    7) Cut Finn joking about how the first order “hates that ship” in the Crait battle
    8) Cut Holdo/Leia awkward joking about “may the force be with you”
    9) Cut Finn trying to crash into the battering ram and Rose saving him.
    10) Cut broom boy ending
    11) Luke drops the lightsaber, instead of tossing it
    12) Added the deleted beach attack scene on Ach-To
    13) Added custom end “close out” circle to fit the end of the movie

    #2212 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    I'll confess, you've lost me. My point was that the poll results in this thread are surprising in light of the fact that most posters here seem to have disliked the movie. As in, I'm genuinely surprised that 67% of people that bothered to vote rated it "decent" or better. And yes, online polls and critics can be manipulated. But I feel easy assuming that no one created an account on a pinball website to vote in an off-topic poll, or was strong-armed by Disney into voting as they did.

    I wish I would have had a few different options when I made it. I wonder if now that I can add options and people can change their votes what the results would be, but I doubt most of the voters still visit the thread to make it any more accurate.

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    #2224 1 year ago

    saw this and lol'd

    36226756_2591569021069051_1799720408035885056_n (resized).jpg

    #2228 1 year ago

    Growing up one thing I always thought made star wars superior to star trek was it was (at first) just 3 movies where there was so much star trek it was sort of water downed, did not seem as special.

    #2253 1 year ago
    Quoted from okayestpinballer:

    Does anybody really think the 3 current movies would have been drastically better if Lucas had made them?
    I don't remeber the prequels being all that great...

    been stated ad nauseam in this thread that no... no one thinks that.

    a focus has been on how much great material was already out there that was never (books, expanded universe etc) used and how shit TLJ actually is.

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    #2302 1 year ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    The entire start of Ep 7 is about the map fragment to find Luke, who doesnt want to be found cause he has a sweet spear fishing spot with fresh, non-pasteurized alien tit milk all to himself!

    I re-read my initial post and i think this is my fav part of it.

    #2311 1 year ago

    so will Billy Dee finally bang C3PO?

    2 weeks later
    #2330 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    https://www.cosmicbooknews.com/rian-johnson-deletes-tweets
    This is a rather interesting twist, one wonders if any past tweets will surface in the next few weeks?
    That is a lot of twitter history to delete.

    haha, i would assume his new trilogy will get the axe regardless of what his tweets contained tho. that is a massive amount of tweets to delete tho, holy cow.

    #2332 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Maybe Disney canning James Gunn from Guardians for ancient Twitter crimes has him nervous?

    i mean, that is the implication of the article.

    1 week later
    #2361 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    I'm guessing a flashback scene to him being alive and kicking some ass.
    I still maintain that's all they really had to do in Last Jedi for people to love it (worked for Rogue One)

    i want more alien tit milk scenes

    #2369 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Gunn's own words and actions got him fired, as a father with three children his multiple postings were utterly reprehensible.
    Posting a video on his *own website* of 100 prepubescent girls singing "I touch myself" and then posting he was sexually aroused is not funny to normal people.

    They?
    Dan made a video of himself raping a doll. Sound normal and well adjusted to you? I'll not post the link nor screenshot here. Disgusting.
    [quoted image]

    So this guy sounds like a pedo too... that last one talks about NAMBLA... had to look it up... North American Man/Boy Love Association... what the f*&^ is happening in this world ?!?

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    #2376 1 year ago

    saw this and thought it was funny

    38760489_2001219696589780_2082101485407043584_o (resized).jpg

    #2406 1 year ago

    well, when the guy jokes about sodomizing his own child daughter on camera, hes def a creep

    video language NSFW

    Back to Star Wars:

    https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1003446/Star-Wars-9-Luke-ghost-alive-First-Jedi-temple-Rey-plot-release-date-theories-JJ-Abrams

    speculation of what every real star wars fan wants, more Maz Kanata! lol

    speculation that Rey will meet Lukes force ghost back on Ahch-To to "finish her training". what training does she need? she can do anything she wants
    I'm guessing the same fans who bailed on SOLO are also going to bail on episode 9 regardless if it somehow manages to salvage this trilogy.

    #2414 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Ant man and Wasp is ahead of Solo by $50m+ global without even China opening and first Ant man did over $100M in China.
    Ant man is also 5 weeks less release than Solo so it’s likely to top solo by 50% or more.

    kinda crazy to think some C list super hero is more popular than an iconic star wars character haha.

    #2416 1 year ago

    force crush his suit and make tony go pop