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*SPOILERS* -TROS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad & other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel

By InfiniteLives

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    “Star Wars: The Last Jedi was...”

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    #27 6 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    //FLAME SUIT ON
    Wow, what a bad movie. I am clearly a big fan of star wars and went to the 1 am showing when I work at 8 am.
    Spoiler Alert, turn back now if you havent seen it or do not want any spoilers
    From start to finish it was just bad.
    I'll try to break it down chronologically
    Exhibit A:
    So at the beginning the First Order tracks down the Rebels, yadda yadda yadda, then they TRACK THEM THROUGH LIGHT SPEED / HYPERSPACE
    and everyone is like, wow that is impossible! but they never deavle into the details of just how that was pulled off. stupid.
    Exhibit B:
    The Rey with Luke stuff was pretty blah. Just was. Nothing really came out of it.
    EDIT: EXHIBIT C1: How could I forget about this one haha. When the rebel ships bridge gets blown up and Leia is floating in space, instead of freezing to death, running out of O2, or whatever would actually happen, she used the force to float back to an entrance of the ship and get back in. I was in disbelief at how bad that scene was.
    Exhibit C2:
    The whole Finn and, I think Rose?, going to some Casino town to get help was not great. I feel like they only added this stuff to check off the box of weird animals and puppet aliens. Then they meet some random guy who is going to be their code breaker who betrays them and it all just seemed so forced.
    BONUS WTF MOMENT:
    They try and go to Maz for help. Like why? what is her role.
    Exhibit D:
    Snoke! Like What the actual F&^K. He is the Supreme Leader. He tapped into the force to get Rey and Kylo to see and talk to each other. No back story on who he is/was and how he came to power. Super powerful in the force then gets cleaved in halve without ever fighting. We see a glimpse of his power with some lightning he jams at Kylo and that is it. Like what was the point of his existence other than to be "bad guy number 1" He was super strong with the force so he had to be around during 4,5,6 days but just nothing about his back story and hes gone. LAME
    Exhibit E:
    Speaking of being really strong in the force. Kylo stopped a blaster bullet in mid air in episode 7. Then in the fight with the elite guards after Snoke was killed he doesnt even use a single force push or choke or anything. You would think this kid could crush skulls with his mind. meh
    Exhibit F:
    Oh, the whole "Rey, your parents come from nothing, just a bunch of junk finders." Way to kill another plot point.
    Exhibit G:
    Well, so Force Ghost Yoda comes and visits Luke to give some advice. If they are going to use Force Ghosts and Vader came back to the Light Side as a force ghost, why wouldnt he just tell Kylo to quit being a D bag. But that is not related to this movie. What is questionable is that Yoda blows up the Jedi teachings, but alas, at the end we see Rey had taken all the old texts. Like Yoda and Luke couldnt sense that or what? Whatever.
    Exhibit H:
    Why not have droid manned ships just light speed thru all the star destoryers, or heck, the death star, anything really and blow them up. slippery slope.
    Exhibit I:
    The part of the movie that I thought was the best was Luke projecting himself in front of Kylo and that whole fight/exchange. Super cool to finally see some of Lukes ultimate power. Oh wait, then he died right after. lame.
    Sprinkle in some bad jokes for laughs and what not. bravo. made a star wars worse than the prequels.
    I probably will never watch this episode again, and for sure not going to see the next one at a midnight showing. Very disappointing
    EDIT: added these things to first post so all my rage is listed here:
    Addendum 1: Ending episode 7 on a cliff hanger with Rey anding Luke his lightsabre, then Luke tossing it over his shoulder for a cheap laugh in E8
    Addendum 2: Showing Chewie eating those cute little critters for no reason, kinda messed up to portray a beloved character that way.
    Addendum 3: Just a terrible plot device as "running out of gas" as being the big event that is causing all the turmoil.

    I am a huge Star Wars fan and have been for a long time. Today at work I have felt so livid and upset with this movie its not even funny. All of your complaints are the same ones I have and I just can not believe this thing got past the writing room let alone got through anything. You forgot to add how horrible of a character and actor Rose was as well as Laura Dern having no significance in this movie and also just being a lame character. Also Poe and Finn not once having their characters being developed in any significant manner. Bringing Phasma back and then killing again (obviously didn't die in FA) was another just waste of time and head scratching experience. All 3 were thin lame characters in the first one and continue to be such here. Just an awful experience and I don't know if I can even sit through another 2 1/2 hours to even see if I can give it a second chance. It was exhausting to sit through. I can not add anything else for I will prob just smash my computer screen. Huge potential that in my opinion Disney just ran to the ground. Force Awakens had its fair share but I had no problems with that one. They did a good enough job for what they had and executed it. This was just a disappointment and I am sad that it came to this...o well. Just a movie but damn.

    #45 6 years ago
    Quoted from FalconPunch:

    I scene which had me saying 'WTF' was when Finn was literally going to kill himself to save everyone (well he would have been shot before or would have melted but let's ignore that)
    Then Rose comes out to no where to crash her ship into his. Almost killing him and her...and putting everyone else at risk. Whyyyyy? Then that stupid kiss.
    Then somehow he carries her back ALLL the way to the cave before the first order get there. How did he get there so quickly? Would have taken an hour to walk. Why wasnt he killed by the giant freaking machines right next to him while he was walking back carrying a heavyset person?
    Why are almost all critic reviews so good? Is everyone afraid of Disney since they are so powerful? I was going to see the movie anyway but it's just disappointing that the reviews are so lopsided.
    Also you cannot arc shots in space. There is no curvature because they aren't on planet.
    You cannot drop bombs either.... They need to be propelled.
    Well no fire in space as well but almost all movies do that.
    I am very fun at parties.

    Jebus...I just thought of that as well as far as how the hell they got there in that short of time with that great of distance. Dumb to even think they could even stop that thing with those POS ships.....Yeah and this whole relationship crap needs to stop. Star Wars doesn't need this. We didn't need this Rose character either....

    #60 6 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    What relationship? Does Finn want Rose, Rey, or Poe. It is not exactly clear but I would guess Rey, but actors have been hinting at Poe.
    Also, the original trilogy had at least one relationship and that added to the plot and made the film more than just another macho war movie.

    This is true. But that whole feelings for each other in the original spanned the 3 movies. This was Rose risking her life for Finn after just meeting him and then kissing and what not. It's not necessary. The writers want you to be invested in them and it's forced and not there. I don't care. It was a fun movie. But it was just weak.

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