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*SPOILERS* -TROS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad & other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel

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    #262 6 years ago

    I thought it was pretty terrible basically another prequel. Had all the flaws the prequels had. The didn't kill the franchise or anything but they took a major step backwards. The Force Awakens was like a contract with the fans. They basically said we know the prequels are shit here let us show you we can set Star Wars up for the future. Not going to do too much new but we are going to set everything up to be awesome. Then the dropped Rogue One and it was the shit. Total delivery for me, they knew how to handle this franchise. The Last Jedi they completely dropped the ball, right back to stupidity. Character arcs that just fall off cliffs. Plot lines that go no where. As soon as they set up that stupid chase bit with the fuel the movie was over. Rey had literally hours with Luke, the whole thing was pointless. Remember when Ben had to convince Yoda because Luke was too old. Now we are reduced to well we got some text books and a couple of hours. It was so silly. Is it learn to be Jedi for dummies?

    #266 6 years ago

    My issues are not Star Wars lore or tone. It's just story and structure. Its like a Rocky movie that he spends a year searching for a trainer and finds him 48 hours before the fight and the trainer says, hit him more than he hits you, here is a text book on boxing. If you survive this fight give it a read.

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    #1033 6 years ago
    Quoted from fishbone:

    Thank you. That scene was so out of Vader's character and position (a military General wouldn't be doing infantry stuff) but still people loved it because they saw him going to town on the rebels.
    Fan porn indeed.

    Vader is never portrait as a military general, he is always a field marshal. Right from A New Hope he gets in their himself, he joins the battle. I don't remember the line but Leia calls him the Emperors attack dog or something like that in the opening sequence. Him getting his hands dirty is exactly his character.

    #1041 6 years ago
    Quoted from fishbone:

    "The one holding Vaders's leash", if I recall correctly.
    Vader doesn't join the battle, he first appears after the stormtroopers have secured the rebel ship (same in Empire with rebel base on Hoth). Whatever rank he may have, I don't see him carrying out stormtrooper duties.
    Let's agree to disagree.

    He is literally boots on the ground with the Stormtroopers in many scenes. Flying a ship in lead formation with them. On the ground on Hoth, boarding Leia ship, goes after Obi Wan himself on the Death Star. He is actually the only ranking officer that is in the field. The generals stand around on their ships in suits.

    #1057 6 years ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    But I’d be a little surprised if the Chinese movie audience is obsessed with this “SJW” mumbo jumbo as Pinside appears to be.

    I thought the whole "SJW" thing in Star Wars was a joke and mocking people that use the term. I can't believe anyone actually takes it seriously or cares.

    #1127 6 years ago

    I havent followed this much is that the dude playing Han? I just assumed it was like his childhood growing up that kind of thing? Is it supposed to be like just before a new hope?

    #1149 6 years ago

    I think people dont really understand how business works. You are expect to continually increase revenue and profit. The latest Movie has hurt the brand we wont know how much till the next movie drops. It is Star Wars and people are willing to waste money on the franchise. So most likely people will go see the next one not matter what. I myself will hold off, the latest one ruined my interest. The question is am I an insignificant minority or am I one of many.

    #1167 6 years ago

    I can't imagine his trilogy ever seeing the light of day. I suspect it will just die off with no announcement.

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    #1278 6 years ago

    I always felt Han was a touch to the character Harrison Ford played in American Graffiti with the Falcon being his hot rod. If Solo has a little of that, I think it will suck me in. It needs to have the Falcon winning the race that is always referenced about how he did that run at whatever his time was. Give me a gear head, bad boy, gunslinger, car movie in the Star Wars universe and I will never be able to resist. Anything else and I'll pass. Episode 9 will be wait and see no matter how much hype they do, I just don't care. Flush it and start again.

    #1307 6 years ago

    I love how they didn't even know she was a women, I try not to get into this whole thing with Star Wars but I find it hard to believe they didn't know she was a women.

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    #1341 6 years ago

    That ET Canada video is gold, pretty much my thoughts watching it.

    #1349 6 years ago

    You can tell he is in a tough spot in the other video. I'm sure he has seen it but he just in a position that he can't really say anything. He is complementary but also makes some faces that give away that he is saying what he has to say.

    #1375 6 years ago

    I don't get they whole he needs to be like Harrison Ford thing. Lots of actors play the same role and no one expects them to emulate each other. Ewan emulated a couple of mannerism of Alec but it's not like he didn't make the role his own. Ewan is a Scot and Alec is from London. At least Harrison and Alden are both American.

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    #1556 6 years ago

    The destroyed sabre is a tip off that Luke is not real when he shows up with it and a hair piece at the end. For me it just made the ending even worse. It was like they were actively saying look how dumb this is.

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    #1703 6 years ago

    I honestly think this looks all right and depending on the reviews of non film critics I may go see it. With the current state of Star Wars this will be relegated to cheap theater run for me.

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    #1776 5 years ago

    He was not talking about you.

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    #1815 5 years ago

    Did you guys here the latest on Lando, I'm sure that is going to go over well. It might be considered a spoiler but if you google "Star Wars Writer Confirms" you'll find the news.

    #1820 5 years ago

    Personally I couldn't care less what floats people's boat. My only issue is Lando was slick as fuck and cool. He was basically the token black guy but he just killed in the role and made the character an icon. Apparently if you that charasmatic it means you trying to sleep with the men and not just the women. Lando was not that type of flamboyant. If the feel they need that character in the movie don't be so lazy and write it.

    #1829 5 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    I know...why even leak that news about Lando anyway? What's the angle? If you want Lando to get jiggy with a space octopus, just do it. I mean they've fucked over every old character so why not.

    They are just trying to bring in the LGBT crowd, look we care about you come see the movie. It's just marketing, I suspect it will be very subtle to non existent in the movie. I don't think Disney cares or has the courage to actually a put a character in the movie. Its going to be if you squint real hard it kinda looks like Lando might be into guys. It's just enough to piss of the fans and not enough to actually make any difference about equality. It's the way Disney half asses it and just fucks up all the characters that drives me nuts.

    #1851 5 years ago

    The only reason the Falcon is different is to sell toys, has nothing to do with the script or continuity.

    #1929 5 years ago

    Looks like Solo is not doing well, the 150 plus million opening is now being scaled to 80-90 million.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/heat-vision/box-office-solo-a-star-wars-story-thursday-previews-1114854?__twitter_impression=true

    #1951 5 years ago

    I broke down last night as one of my buddies wanted to go. It’s better than TLJ but it’s also very meh. The Lando thing is just odd and makes no sense, it’s not terrible, it’s just dumb. Glover does a good job, actually everyone does but there is just nothing in the script. It’s just a generic and predictable. There is a lot of moments that are meant for a laugh that fall complete flat. There are a couple of moments that work and remind how great it could have been they are pretty few and far between. They play Han as kind of a tween romantic that didn’t really work for me. Couple times I was like is this supposed to be Han or Edward from twighlight. It’s not terrible it’s just a lazy cookie cutter studio film for your teenage to tweens demographic. The kind of movie you watch when you have nothing better to do and forget when you walk out of the theatre.

    #1958 5 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    Awww, man.....how could you?

    It felt like that going into the theater. It is not doing well my buddy called me like an hour before showtime on Saturday night. I said if you can get tickets I'll go. We had great seats and it was only like 3/4 full, when I said yes I thought no chance he could get seats.

    #2006 5 years ago

    The problem is where can they go from here? They have no where to go? Does anyone care what happens with 9, I know I don’t. I figure they have one minor story when Obi wan kills Darth Maul and even that is wrapping up a pretty cheap plot line. They can’t have Han and Obi-wan meet and the can’t have Han and Darth Maul meet, but Obi-wan needs to kill Darth Maul. I take it back that story line is a complete mess now too. They have completed messed up the universe.

    #2044 5 years ago

    The first thing they need to do is stop making movies that take place on a weekend. Give the characters some time to grow have real struggles actually accomplish something. No idea why Star Wars takes place in the same amount of time as the Hang Over. This is more about TLJ but really other than a couple of pointless jumps Solo wasnt much better as far as time.

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    #2083 5 years ago

    The thing people don't get about TFA and why people went to see it. Disney had to do a remake, we had been force garbage prequels and people were very jaded. TFA was a peace offering, it was just Disney saying we know what Star Wars is, here is the universe, here is our new cast, we know what people want to see. It wasn't perfect but it was a great start. TLJ just fucked everything up, if TLJ was not complete shit everything would be great. All they had to do is stick with the cast not add a bunch of nobody gives a shit characters. Make Rey over confident get her ass schooled by Luke, a little drama with Kylo and her learning the hard way she wasnt ready and everyone would have been ready for 10 more movies. Sure it would be similar in theme to Empire but that is the arc every character in every movie goes through, its what makes people give a shit.

    #2131 5 years ago

    Just read all Star Wars Story movies have been put on hold so they can focus on IX and a new trilogy. So both Obi-Wan and Boba Fett have been canned. At this point they might as well drop IX as well, the whole story line is pointless. Just start over with a whole new trilogy with new characters. Man did they fuck up this franchise.

    #2138 5 years ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Correct. Fans are not buying it. I think this is all that's going to happen for now. After Episode 9 tanks at the box office, the heads will really roll at Lucasfilm. They can't clean house at the top while Episode 9 is in production. That would be too embarrassing for the company, and create the same bad word of mouth that plagued Solo's release. They gotta let it ride at this point with Episode 9, no other choice.
    Put a die hard fan as president of Lucasfilm, like Filoni, as many have said. He deserves it at this point with a long track record of success. Just like Kevin Feige at Marvel.
    Shame tho, because I thought an Ewan McGregor Kenobi movie had lots of potential. Letting him age another 15 years might be beneficial actually.

    Man they have worked themselves into a hole. I wonder what they will do with nine, will they completely half ass and low budget it, knowing its dead or will they actually spend time and energy to try and make something out of it. That ship is sinking they might as well just make it a turd and hope it's a cult classic of terrible movies. I can't imagine them getting any money out of it at this stage.

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    #2368 5 years ago
    Quoted from PinSinner:

    One thing they did get right was the lightsaber duels. This duel is one of the stand outs for me. And the John Williams score for this is epic.

    That was the highlight of the entire prequel trilogy. Nothing came to close to that sequence again.

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    #2607 5 years ago

    This story is making the rounds everywhere, the actual paper only analyzes accounts that directly commented to Rian Johnson. No one actually reads it though they just spread the inaccurate headline.

    #2609 5 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    I'm assuming Twitter? Which I'm not on.

    Yes it was about Rian Johnson Twitter account.

    Headline: "Last Jedi haters are alt-right trolls and russian bots"
    Actual Data: "Twitter users who directly messaged Rian Johnson to troll Last Jedi are mostly alt-right and russian bots."

    #2612 5 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Question- How does that effect the The Last Jedi success or failure?

    It can't imagine how tweeting the director has any impact whatsoever on a ticket sales.

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    #2816 5 years ago
    Quoted from rai:

    The $17M budget film released this year (I never heard of) ‘A Quiet Place’ has a cumulative total of $340M.

    Watch it it's killer, Emily Blunt and John Krasinski, John directs. Its only has that budget because John and Emily did it for a fraction of what they would normally get.

    #2820 5 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    how did they think editing deadpool into a pg13 movie would be a good idea?
    https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/12/12/once-upon-a-deadpool-review

    Advice from Stern In all seriousness reviewers are just stupid, all proceeds are going to charity. How can you complain about a movie being rereleased and all profits going to charity at Christmas? It's F*ck Cancer but it too has been rebranded Fudge Cancer as part of the joke.

    #2822 5 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    oh didnt know it was for charity, thats cool, It just seems like making deadpool pg13 takes away the spirit of the character

    The whole thing is meant to be a bit of a joke, even Deadpool cleans up his act for Christmas. Also I they focus on children with cancer so they thought they would clean up the movie so kids could at least go see it.

    Pretty sad when they release a movie so kids can support other kids dying of cancer and people are upset that it doesn't fit the character of a super hero and say it sucks, don't go see it.

    #2825 5 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    i mean, watching the movie originally do you think it is meant for kids??!? i guess i wouldnt want my young child watching the movie.
    im not upset as you put it, just think its a bad take on a R rated movie. Didnt know it had anything to do with raising money for kids with cancer, but still seems a bit of a stretch. At least its not a cash grab and for a good cause. sorry to offend you

    I'm not offended at all, just kinda shaking my head at the people giving it a bad review. The internet rages because Starbucks cups are not Christmas enough and at the same time complain when Ryan Reynolds tries to raise money for sick kids over the holidays, with a special Christmas edition of his movie.

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    #2859 5 years ago

    Star Wars as a brand is pretty poisoned right now they are trying to keep a low profile for sure. I can't speak to it but a quick google will tell you even the video games are getting shelved.

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    #3221 5 years ago

    This iteration of Star Wars is beyond redemption. Just let this die and reboot the whole thing. This looks as terrible as the title. Star Wars is now Highlander that you just absorb the thoughts of everyone, its nonsense.

    #3228 5 years ago
    Quoted from BC_Gambit:

    It was always nonsense. Space wizards and lazer swords right? But crap is crap. This is not the nonsense we were looking for...

    Yeah I have no issue with nonsense, just set the nonsense of the universe and then craft your story. This whole thing of just changing the rules and making it up as you go just does not work. It so frustrating because the damn structure is right there in the MCU. Make a bunch of movies focusing on interesting characters in the Star Wars Universe and bring it all together for an epic climax. The original characters should have been a little bit more than a Stan Lee cameo. Luke taking on an army single handed alone in the desert was really stupid and made no sense. Now Mary Sue is in the desert taking on Tie Fighters with nothing but her light saber its stupid 2.0. How could they not get the memo that people didn't like this shit in TLJ.

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    #3394 4 years ago

    These are massive brands no one is going to just go see some new made up character with no history. Women have literally been fucked over and exploited in Hollywood for far too long. People think the solution is to not give them and good roles and just make up shitty new characters in some B rated bimbo franchises, yeah that is a good idea.

    I know its a little off topic but I can not wait for the new black female Bond, Phoebe Waller-Bridge is fucking an incredible writer. Everything she does is fucking amazing. Well with one exception the stupid made up no one gives a shit droid in Solo was exactly what I don't want to see. She is a beautiful, powerful, super expressive women and they decide to make her a comic relief droid.

    #3402 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    Ugh. That was her in that role? That character couldn't have been more in your face progressive ideals, removing the viewer from a fantasy world with so many lines of awkward dialog.
    I haven't seen Fleabag. Is it a lot better than the Solo performance?

    Fleabag, Killing Eve, Crashing are all amazing. Its her writing that sets her apart. I have no idea why they put in that role in Solo.

    #3407 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    That happened, man....maybe a decade ago in the comics.
    I guess, how else can we keep creating stories about characters five decades old? Even Jesus Christ didn't get this much press, haha!
    I kinda want to see Bean Thor, now that you mention it!

    I'll have to check that out..! I definitely didn't like her role in Solo, I wonder how she felt, but I'll definitely look at these other projects. Thanks for the recommendations!

    She is a progressive women, in the way that she will go right into the gutter like men do. So prepared for scenes like this.

    #3410 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    I hope it's not all Amy Schumer style bloody pussy type stuff. If dudes resort to cock and ball talk, that's no fun after the second joke either...
    Is this only on BBC1/2? I'd like to check out more to form an opinion, and ideally laugh.

    I think its on Amazon, the show is critically acclaimed so you should have no trouble finding trailers. It's not all like that but she doesn't shy away from anything and can create huge laughs from dark messed up shit. You'll probably love it or hate it but no one does what she does better, she is killing it. There is no comparison to her and Amy Schumer not even the same sport let alone ball park.

    #3415 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    Snuck in the first episode during work breaks.
    Hmm. Not sure what to think really.
    I feel 4th wall breaking incessantly feels cheap, tells the viewer what to think, how to react. Not my style of writing for sure. And reality cam style was the first step of that disingenuous brand of comedy.
    Also I never feel it's progressive to just flip the script with gender roles. As in we used to have male led shows, where women were meat, denigrated, used as props or punchlines. In this show, men are emasculated, lack worth, are empty shells for setups of cheap one liners.
    I'd also love to see a female led show where fashion discussion, menstruation, and female rivalry and insecurity aren't so readily at the core of how it differs from a male led show.
    But...is that a large aspect of women's lives? I don't know. I don't even know, as a male, what stereotypical male focal points I could make regarding show writing. (Do men fix cars or scratch their balls incessantly in modern male shows? Dunno....)
    That said, the last ten minutes went in a different direction from the beginning of the episode, and had me guessing more than groaning. So I definitely will check out the next episode or so.
    That Stephen Merchant show on Amazon, a couple years back, rubbed me the wrong way initially too, and I ended up liking it by the time it ended.

    Your thinking way too much about with a political agenda, its just a show and every character in it is completely mental. I never once saw as it as anything to do with gender or feminism. It's just an insane, hilarious, trainwreck that we get invited into. The fourth wall is just mechanism to invite the audience in, the show is based on a one person play, so that connection with the audience was required. It might not be for you, maybe try Killing Eve, its more of an insane spy assassin show, it also has female leads but I don't think its any kind of political statement, just a show written by a women has female leads.

    #3421 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    Okay, I watched the second episode last night. Is there a character arc that develops at some point.
    Snarky. Cynical. Negating. Narcissistic. Cruel. Sociopathic.
    Those are all words I'd use to effectively describe the character portrayed so far. I hoped after the first episode, the end direction of that, they'd nuance things a bit. Rather she doubled down on using people, being cruel about it, and doing so with glee.
    The juxtaposition of other "shitty" characters come to mind, ala Hank from Californication, Ricky Gervais in The Office, and Larry David in Curb Your Enthusiasm.
    Those are all characters where either the viewer or outside world in those shows critique and lambasts these characters when they are grotesque, selfish....human, and at some point, those characters themselves also gain the humility to question their value systems, behavior, selfishness, etc.
    I don't see that so far in Fleabag. I see a celebration of the self, at any and all cost to others in the process. It reminds me of where I feel we are culturally at present. We revel in always be the epicenter of a very large world, and do so with reckless abandon. All the while ignoring those around us at every turn, often literally on a highway.
    It also reminds me of The Last Jedi as well, where Ryan Johnson knows fully the impact and weight of these characters and this universe to millions, yet willfully chooses to burn all the toys, so many adore, just to feed his own empty narcissistic tendencies.
    Welcome to the modern world. Where not just Nero burns it all down, (not that he did burn Rome down mind you) but every person feels they have the right to burn down hope, decency, and care among the populace.
    Fuck modern media.

    She is just a flawed human being like the rest of us. The grief, guilt and depression is a dark beautiful trainwreck and its so on point you can't help but laugh. This style of dark comedy I don't think is for you. The name of the show is Fleabag which is defined as "a shabby and unpleasant person or thing". I never felt I was supposed to judge or critic her, it just felt like an honest portrayal of what life can do to any of us. I sympathized with her and loved every minute of the journey. If your looking for some kind of redemption or moral correction its not that kind of show.

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    #3423 4 years ago

    Just thought I would pop in and mention between Fleabag and Killing Eve they are nominated for something like 20 Emmys. I don’t know if any one writer has been up for two shows in the same year, pretty crazy how on fire she is right now, can’t wait for Bond.

    #3442 4 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/15/rian-johnson-star-wars-new-movies-trilogy-legacy-characters
    is this ahole really going to get another shot?
    says its going to move beyond the legacy characters, yeah cause they killed or ruined them all lol

    Its pretty common to lock people in to contracts to write scripts or develop projects. Its nothing for the studio to pay him, green lighting the trilogy and putting up a few hundred million to actually make the films is another matter.

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    #3486 4 years ago

    I really don't think Rey is going to the dark side. Its just more nostalgia she is going into the tree to see herself as a Sith or some shit like that. Just like Luke did with Vader. I do agree the entire story line is dead, it's just a bad B movie at this stage. They need to start the whole thing over with the focus on a single character and build them up. None of this you become a Jedi in an afternoon garbage. The movies need to cover months and years not hours and days.

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    #3534 4 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    Trailer #2

    It will be different kind of Superhero movie for sure, I also think the reviews will be mixed, it will depend on which side of the political spectrum you're aligned with......

    Wow that looks a lot better than I expected, he made quite the physical transformation for the role.

    #3543 4 years ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Joker looks... different. I like Joaquin a lot but this film doesn’t look like it has anything happening, unless they are not showing anything in the trailer. I used to like DeNero but he can go fly a kite imo.

    Sure DeNiro is getting old but he is still and amazing actor. Is this some social justice scandal?

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    #3575 4 years ago

    Ah poor George they gave him six billion dollars and told him his ideas were shit. I wonder if he will ever be able to get over it. The funny part is they didn't even bother to come up with a plan or an idea, just figured they would pay directors to make it up as they go. George did his damnedest to destroy Star Wars and Disney gave him a mountain of cash and said hold my beer.

    #3580 4 years ago
    Quoted from Methos:

    The ending scene with Vader was horrible.

    It didn't fit the opening of Star Wars but I loved that scene. It was like a Tarantino alternate reality. So awesome to see Vader actually in battle going full savage. Rogue One I did enjoy but it was plagued with rewrites and changes as well.

    #3583 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    I imagine he sold it, from what I read, feeling fatigued at the idea of pushing forward himself. He hoped Disney could continue, and he would assist with structure and guidance. They then decided to either outright deceive him or that they wished for a cash in via a reboot on generic themes.
    They chose the latter, and in doing so created a mish mash of characters, all built on, then destroying the old structure, all the while not creating anything dynamic in the process.
    He has a right to be upset. Most people that have watched Star Wars globally, haven't seen THX or American Graffiti. Those projects won't ever be his legacy, so sure it makes sense that he'd feel betrayed over this outcome. He's always echoed that.
    That said, he certainly made the decision himself.
    As for the perception that he did this deal for cash. He did it for other film makers to continue his universe, not destroy it, all the while DONATING billions of dollars in the process.
    I'm never sure why he's ever been demonized. He seems a pretty amazing, and creative fellow.
    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_2067145
    “I am dedicating the majority of my wealth to improving education,” Lucas wrote in his pledge letter. “It is the key to the survival of the human race. We have to plan for our collective future — and the first step begins with the social, emotional, and intellectual tools we provide to our children. As humans, our greatest tool for survival is our ability to think and to adapt — as educators, storytellers, and communicators our responsibility is to continue to do so.”
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon/2012/11/04/donating-star-wars-billions-will-make-george-lucas-one-of-the-biggest-givers-ever/#52e8c6732adb

    He is a grown man that signed on the dotted line selling Star Wars for billions. The only thing funnier than him whining about is the constant sympathy of his fanboys. It’s great that he is donating just stop whining that they won’t make your stupid the force is bacteria nonsense. No one is demonizing him some of us just find it hilarious when billionaires have pity parties for themselves. I’ll grant you American Graffiti was legit great and set the bar for nighttime exteriors.

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    #3588 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    He was demonized widely, not saying you or anyone here specifically was, after and during the Prequels. Some people have never forgiven him for that. Seems like you feel similarly in that mindset

    This whole thing that people feel personally impacted is laughable. I do not know the man and we have zero impact on each other in any way. It would be completely delusional that he could do anything that I would need to forgive him for. The man has some creative ideas but has always needed someone else to guide him. He has not done anything meaningful in decades he is not a messiah, just a bit of a one hit wonder back in the day. The fans are the worst thing that happened to the franchise. He did not ruin anyone’s childhood people need to get a clue.

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    #3655 4 years ago
    Quoted from Methos:

    At least we have a strong female lead, so story or theme be damned.

    We had the beginnings of a strong female lead for about half of TFA. Since then she has been the ultimate Mary Sue and an embarrassment to strong female leads. She is literally the pretty girl that doesn't have to put in any work or effort and everything just magically goes her way. She is even swooning for the bad guy, it could not be a more laughable stereotype.

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    #3717 4 years ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Eight one-hour episodes I believe. Those expecting to binge on Tuesday are in for a surprise though. The episodes will be released weekly. The final episode wont be released until after Episode 9 is in theaters. I'm sure that was by design to generate hype & get people to go to the theater.
    I cannot wait for this Going to be fun spotting the easter eggs in every episode & seeing actual interesting character development.

    I think it's because they know they don't have enough content at launch, so they are dragging it out. They know everyone was just going to subscribe for a month, binge, quit and sign up again when they have more stuff.

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    #3810 4 years ago
    Quoted from Hobbypinball:

    I didn't hate TLJ - but didn't make much sense. Last time we saw luke the future was bright. Next time he's drinking green milk as a hermit. The problem and point being - they didn't take us along on that journey/story. And flash backs aren't gonna cut it. And the reason I have very little respect for Disney was that they wanted to cash in on the original trilogy and the stardom (hammil, ford, fisher), but they destroyed their characters. They could have easily created a new series........or a series after the original cast was not part of. But no.......they wanted to include them because we had nostalgia to those characters, but then they completely trampled on the nostalgia we held for those characters.
    They were either completely clueless or someone literally thought - how can we cash in on all the 40 something years olds nostalgia.........but also lets piss them off by P*ssing all over what makes the original trilogy nostalgic for them.
    Let's reboot Star Trek but make Kirk a p**sy. literally what disney did. And worse they had a completely blank and wide open canvas with 3 decades of stories to pull from..........and they gave us p**sy luke, mary popins leah, and bad dad/husband han.
    Also - after two movies I have no emotional attachment to the characters they are trying to build new. Any of them could blow up in the first scene of ROS and no one would care.

    Of all the characters the butchery of Han for me was the worst. Sure he was arrogant and self centered but he could never abandon a friend or let alone his own son. Then along came Solo and they actually made him a soldier in the Empire. Remember the scene in A New Hope when he is trying to pretend he is a soldier, Ah yeah we are all good here, situation normal. He is was no X marine, it is kinda ironic that Adam Driver actually is.

    #3848 4 years ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    If this show isn't considered gritty & intense, IDK what is.

    Quoted from wesman:

    The Man with No FACE...was not what the Leone trilogy was called.

    That anyone considers this show gritty or intense is very odd to me, and to in any way relate it to the Leone Trilogy is blasphemy. I don't recall torrents of baby merchandise packing the toy stores for the Good that Bad and the Ugly. I haven't seen the 3rd episode yet but so far this is on par with A Team or Knight Rider, gritty and intense it is not.
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    #3878 4 years ago

    After episode 4 I’m done, they went so hard with the fan service the AT-ST is basically a living thing. It’s not a military vehicle with a pilot it’s a monster in the woods with the eyes of a wolf reflecting back in the night. It’s also dumb as a post that pointlessly kills itself. The main character basically pushes a Star Wars stroller completely invincible while every bad guy is completely incompetent and he is endlessly rescued by secondary characters. This is a Mr Bean Babies R Us Star Wars commercial. Everything they set up they resolve in 2 minutes. This weapon is super rare use it as a last resort, two minutes later he uses it. It’s been decades since I took my helmet off, thirty seconds later I’m hungry takes helmet off in plain sight of everyone. I tried so hard to like it but it’s objectively terrible.

    #3882 4 years ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    So that’s a no on subscribing to Disney minus in order to get Mando Calrissian?

    My teenage daughter and couple of her friends are sharing a sub, I have been watching it on that. Clearly they are the target audience.

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    #3995 4 years ago

    After 4 I have given up on the show, I am still watching though. I'm just waiting to see Bill Burr, he can't be as horrible as everyone else has been so far.

    #4007 4 years ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    It was fan service but done in a good way. To say every scene is in a movie to move the plot is a fallacy. There are many filler scenes in modern movies, especially action movies. It dovetailed nicely with the ANH. It didn't break any canon or lore. Besides you have to also give credence to the fact it's a new movie and a new story....heck even a new Vader, updated for the present time. It did not impact Vader's character in any way. If you want to screw around with a character or story frankly that's the way you want to do it.

    I thought that scene was awesome, they finally let us see Vader off his leash, it tied in perfectly to the scene later when Leia says it to Tarkin. I don't know why so many people hated it. Rogue One was the best since the OT. I didn't mind TFA as I gave them a pass on the whole playing it safe and basically redoing the ANH. I thought they were just trying to earn a little trust give the fans what they wanted. I was super excited for TLJ and everything since has been complete garbage.

    #4013 4 years ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    But he never went that batshit in A New Hope. He always seemed like a controlled animal on a leash, which is what it seemed like he became once the Emperor "saved" him, after he DID go batshit dark as Anakin.
    I always got the impression Vader was in control, controlled, and only killed when necessary, like a living weapon. Never killing ruthlessly, more for function than sport or aggression.

    It's super tactical moment in Rogue One, he knows they have the plans and he needs them back. He is completely in control he is just a bad ass, he is not just killing them for fun, they are directly between him and his target. We don't see it after that because the Rebels learned their lesson, on Hoth when he is on the ground people get the fuck out of his way.

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    #4089 4 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Space Horses.[quoted image]

    To be fair that is crashed on the ground inside the atmosphere. Not that I am defending this train wreck. My work has a special screening that's free and I'm still not going. A couple weeks from now when there is real word of mouth I may go see it.

    #4092 4 years ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    They don’t appear to be crashed on the ground and it would be impossible for such enormous ships to fly inside the atmosphere of a planet. The gravity would be way too much to overcome and in fact the star destroyers would tear apart under their own weight. I would assume all large spacecraft would have to be constructed or assembled in space and could never land on a planet.
    When I watched TLJ in the theater I fell asleep during most of the casino planet scenes so I wanted to watch the movie again to be up to speed for this last movie. I tried, but I couldn’t get through the first 45 minutes before I turned it off.

    I'm not trying to apply the laws of physics, just saying in the very loose rules of Star Wars that ship is on the ground, well its floating in water. There are plenty of other shots that its clear. There is more than enough wrong there is no need to use very selected picture to try and make it worse.

    #4094 4 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Random picture chosen from Bing search "star wars space horses skywalker" taken from Disney's own trailer.
    Personally I would have preferred a shot with the horses a tad more prominent but for illustration purposes it will do.
    Horses.. in space...

    You searched for space horses and got the picture that looked like horses in space. I'll leave you to it's not like its a long wait till people actually see the movie and the internet space horse meme will end. It might not be a ship but a piece of the second Death Star on Endor.

    #4126 4 years ago
    Quoted from master_of_chaos:

    just watched it. better than TLJ. a force ghost doing some tricks. no blue milk. aprox a million "copy and paste" starkiller ships. ewoks.
    something forgotten? ah, yes. palpatine. Lens flares
    im going to drink some whisky now.

    Are the horses in space?

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    #4344 4 years ago

    Saw it yesterday and all things considered it was pretty good. TLJ screwed things up so badly it was actually pretty impressive. It still had some real garbage that just should have been cut. It's funny everyone is pissed about how all the original guys are treated in this trilogy. Leia was no better she went from a take no shit, beautiful, powerful young women to a boring old spinster,. Leia was never going to go half monk and become a Jedi. Killing off Luke and Snoke didn't leave them any options. Hopefully in a few years they reset the franchise and take everything down about a thousand levels. This whole the force can do anything just makes it so uninteresting.

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