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*SPOILERS* -TROS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad & other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel

By InfiniteLives

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    “Star Wars: The Last Jedi was...”

    • garbage, the worst of the main films 243 votes
      34%
    • decent, better than the prequels 251 votes
      35%
    • really good, on par with the originals 80 votes
      11%
    • great! one of the best 80 votes
      11%
    • who cares, star wars sucks 55 votes
      8%

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    #351 6 years ago

    I guess for Disney to make the Billions they need to survive,it;s logical to go back and start over!! Who's the kid??Who were his parents??Here we go again!!!

    #352 6 years ago
    Quoted from BC_Gambit:

    Can you name one thing from the original trilogy that makes as little sense as just waiting your opponents fleet out, when you have a fleet of other ships to surround them with, or just send in your own damn bombers?

    - From a certain point of view....That always felt like a nonsensical way out that we've just accepted. Plus there are a ton of things in the prequels that don't make sense.

    Can you name one subplot/subsection of the original trilogy that is as mind boggling as to why it is in the movie in the first place as the whole casino subplot? - I agree with you here in that it is the weakest portion of the movie as it doesn't further the story itself. That said, it does further the themes of unknowns in the galaxy rising up AND that you can't always win by heroically doing some MacGuffin type adventure against incredible odds to save the day (basically the whole Poe arc).

    It's definitely an imperfect movie, but I don't think it's as imperfect as people are making it out to be.

    #353 6 years ago

    Yeah it's not exactly what I was expecting, but bottom line for me is that I'm excited to watch it again. That's something I can't say for a lot of movies.

    --Luke

    #354 6 years ago

    I do not understand how the Critics can be so far off from the Audience on something like this (or like Blade Runner)

    I never really thought of it before but its kind of like the politician / lobbyist relationship of you scratch my back I'll scratch yours.

    I assume you don't want to go up against Disney if you are a film critic.

    Remember this story when Disney Banned the LA Times from their movies lol

    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/11/disney-abandons-la-times-blacklist-after-backlash-from-film-critics/

    Right now, 116,560 user submitted ratings puts Star Wars: The Last Jedi at 55% while the Critics are at 93% with 292 FRESH ratings and 22 ROTTEN ratings

    Crazy how big of a discrepancy their is between the two

    Also, for the record, I am 32, so its not an issue of me harking back to the gold ol days of seeing these in the theater as a child. I just think there are too many bad parts of this movie to consider it good.

    And for those who called me a troll, I have 2,198 posts which 1 has been moderated with 2,131 Up votes and 86 Down votes for a 96.1% ratio.
    https://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/infinitelives/forum

    I am not a troll, I just do not think this is a good movie.

    -1
    #355 6 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    I do not understand how the Critics can be so far off from the Audience on something like this (or like Blade Runner)
    I never really thought of it before but its kind of like the politician / lobbyist relationship of you scratch my back I'll scratch yours.
    I assume you don't want to go up against Disney if you are a film critic.
    Remember this story when Disney Banned the LA Times from their movies lol
    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/11/disney-abandons-la-times-blacklist-after-backlash-from-film-critics/
    Right now, 116,560 user submitted ratings puts Star Wars: The Last Jedi at 55% while the Critics are at 93% with 292 FRESH ratings and 22 ROTTEN ratings
    Crazy how big of a discrepancy their is between the two
    Also, for the record, I am 32, so its not an issue of me harking back to the gold ol days of seeing these in the theater as a child. I just think there are too many bad parts of this movie to consider it good.
    And for those who called me a troll, I have 2,198 posts which 1 has been moderated with 2,131 Up votes and 86 Down votes for a 96.1% ratio.
    https://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/infinitelives/forum
    I am not a troll, I just do not think this is a good movie.

    Is this gonna be one of those things where we get Rotten Tomatoes updates from you every 3 days until the end of time?

    We had a guy doing box office receipt reports on the chick Ghostbusters movie for about 2 months, it was fascinating.

    I'm not sure why almost all the critics like this movie, yet only a little more than half of the viewers do. Maybe it's because critics like it more? Or maybe because critics only do 1 review per critic and one human can post thousands of reviews on Rotten Tomatoes? Regardless, I'd wager most of us really don't really give a shit.

    If viewer approval of Last Jedi on Rotten Tomatoes suddenly rose to 90 percent overnight, would you now like it?

    All I can say is enjoy your little moment. The great 2017 Star Wars debate is going to peter out very soon, everybody has already tired of it on Facebook.

    #356 6 years ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Lasers that are fired through and have to return through Earths atmosphere, something that isn't happening here.

    Even space to space lasers see diffraction. It's been measured and reported. And again, bigger beams have bigger intensity loss.

    Edit: And what sci fi movie DOESN'T have a "firing range" for their weapons? Based on your hangup, why did the Death Star have to move to such close distances to a planet? Why not just fire it off from the edge of the system? There are concessions and suspensions in reality all over the place with sci fi. Star Wars has had a "firing range" consideration from the beginning.

    #357 6 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Even space to space lasers see diffraction. It's been measured and reported. And again, bigger beams have bigger intensity loss.

    I gotta ask...has it ever been established that these things are all in fact lasers as we know them here on Earth? Could they be some kind of SPACE BLASTERS, or ion beams, or disrupter shrouds, or just some other kind of Lucasian jibberish with different properties and limitations? Is part of all of this no-funism and gotcha criticism about everything in these movies a result of trying to transpose the surly limitations presented by our own Earthly realities on to a galaxy far, far away? Like...I'm pretty sure we don't have talking dogs who can fly space ships here on Earth, yet apparently this kind of thing is part of every day life in the movies.

    Asking for a friend.

    #358 6 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    I gotta ask...has it ever been established that these things are all in fact lasers as we know them here on Earth? Could they be some kind of SPACE BLASTERS, or ion beams, or disrupter shrouds, or just some other kind of Lucasian jibberish with different properties and limitations? Is part of all of this no-funism and gotcha criticism about everything in the movies a result of trying to transpose the surly limitations presented by our own Earthly realities on to a galaxy far, far away?
    Asking for a friend.

    Exactly. Also, Lando orders the fleet to move into point blank range against Star Destroyers in Return of the Jedi, so distances obviously matter in Star Wars.

    #359 6 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Is this gonna be one of those things where we get Rotten Tomatoes updates from you every 3 days until the end of time?
    We had a guy doing box office receipt reports on the chick Ghostbusters movie for about 2 months, it was fascinating.
    I'm not sure why almost all the critics like this movie, yet only a little more than half of the viewers do. Maybe it's because critics like it more? Or maybe because critics only do 1 review per critic and one human can post thousands of reviews on Rotten Tomatoes? Regardless, I'd wager most of us really don't really give a shit.
    If viewer approval of Last Jedi on Rotten Tomatoes suddenly rose to 90 percent overnight, would you now like it?
    All I can say is enjoy your little moment. The great 2017 Star Wars debate is going to peter out very soon, everybody has already tired of it on Facebook.

    nah, i only posted it see if their was any discussion about critics being more generous to avoid backlash (as Disney already tried to do)

    I havent posted an update for a few days on it lol, I only did it this time to show the discrepancy. If you are so tired of this debate you do not have to participate or read it.

    I do not think their is a massive conspiracy of people tainting the numbers, but maybe there is. Thanks for your added value to the thread.

    #360 6 years ago

    I get why people don't like it, but I'm still just confused over the amount of anger. Over time, this one will probably settle in the upper half of Star Wars films once it finds its place is the full arc of this trilogy and within the rest of the movies.

    It's also funny how much opinions vary on different forums. Over on Slaent, which is mostly a sports/video game forum, it's probably 95% loved it to 5% meh. Only one or two people actually hating on it. Discussion is very different there too. People are looking at what the movie is really trying to say about Star Wars and its characters.

    #361 6 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    I do not think their is a massive conspiracy of people tainting the numbers, but maybe there is.

    I don't think their are critics posting there reviews in fear of them their Disney Execs.

    Frankly, in this climate, you'd get FAR more attention and clicks posting a negative review than a positive one, and I'd think that matters more for professional reviewers open to suggestion than what Disney thinks of them. Why would Disney care anyway? As the absolutely terrible prequels showed, Star Wars is absolutely critic proof.

    If you are willing to accept that a little less than half of people who posted reviews to Rotten Tomatoes didn't like the movie - with no shenanegins, 4Chan goofballs, or bored basement-dwellers rigging the game, I think it's fair to also assume that almost all of the professional critics who reviewed this film genuinely like it.

    Why? Who the Hell knows. I think it's pretty safe to say a lot of people liked the movie, and a lot of people didn't. If I were one of the filmmakers, I'd be happy with that. The movie is making the usual shitton of money, and perhaps the debate will keep this one in the pop culture conversation longer than the bland retread we got last time.

    #362 6 years ago

    Just for a reality check in this thread, so far in the poll above it is 165 (decent, better than the prequels) or better to 55 dislikes/garbage. That is 3 to 1.

    The who cares votes don't count because they obviously don't want to watch Star Wars movies.

    #363 6 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Exhibit A:
    So at the beginning the First Order tracks down the Rebels, yadda yadda yadda, then they TRACK THEM THROUGH LIGHT SPEED / HYPERSPACE
    and everyone is like, wow that is impossible! but they never deavle into the details of just how that was pulled off. stupid.

    This was alluded to in Rogue One. The First Order has been working on this tech for quite a while when TLJ comes around.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    EDIT: EXHIBIT C1: How could I forget about this one haha. When the rebel ships bridge gets blown up and Leia is floating in space, instead of freezing to death, running out of O2, or whatever would actually happen, she used the force to float back to an entrance of the ship and get back in. I was in disbelief at how bad that scene was.

    This scene was pure crap.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Exhibit D:
    Snoke! Like What the actual F&^K. He is the Supreme Leader. He tapped into the force to get Rey and Kylo to see and talk to each other. No back story on who he is/was and how he came to power. Super powerful in the force then gets cleaved in halve without ever fighting. We see a glimpse of his power with some lightning he jams at Kylo and that is it. Like what was the point of his existence other than to be "bad guy number 1" He was super strong with the force so he had to be around during 4,5,6 days but just nothing about his back story and hes gone. LAME

    One of the best things about the movie is Rian Johnson saying, "screw your fan theories." Sometimes it's okay to have to use your imagination. I'm sure these questions will either be addressed in a novel or Ep IV.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Exhibit E:
    Speaking of being really strong in the force. Kylo stopped a blaster bullet in mid air in episode 7. Then in the fight with the elite guards after Snoke was killed he doesnt even use a single force push or choke or anything. You would think this kid could crush skulls with his mind. meh

    He had to pull a sneak attack or Snoke would have whooped his ass. It's pretty clear that Snoke is quite powerful with the Force.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Exhibit G:
    Well, so Force Ghost Yoda comes and visits Luke to give some advice. If they are going to use Force Ghosts and Vader came back to the Light Side as a force ghost, why wouldnt he just tell Kylo to quit being a D bag. But that is not related to this movie. What is questionable is that Yoda blows up the Jedi teachings, but alas, at the end we see Rey had taken all the old texts. Like Yoda and Luke couldnt sense that or what? Whatever.

    It's not explicitly said the ancient texts hold any other value other than the writings, so why would Luke be focused on them? His judgement was clearly clouded if he was about to destroy the temple. Plus I think they pulled off Yoda the way he was meant to be.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Exhibit H:
    Why not have droid manned ships just light speed thru all the star destoryers, or heck, the death star, anything really and blow them up. slippery slope.

    It will be interesting to see where they take this, that's for sure.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Addendum 4:If they are just tracking the main ship, uh duh, warp to hyperspace in the other ships and stay alive and save your fleet. derrr

    There's no way the other ships could have held all of the people and necessary equipment to keep the Rebellion operational.

    #364 6 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Why would Disney care anyway?

    They sure cared when their dirty laundry about the tax breaks was aired out.

    Your right about it not mattering tho, as people here have said they will see star wars no matter what every time. just like buying nib pins that have no code but the next theme is a must have so i gotta have it.

    I dunno, maybe this thread is gonna... run... out.. of.. gas...

    #365 6 years ago
    Quoted from Pahuffman:

    This was alluded to in Rogue One. The First Order has been working on this tech for quite a while when TLJ comes around.

    yeah, ive conceded that sure they can track the ship, whatever. just gotta hope not to run out of gas.

    Quoted from Pahuffman:

    One of the best things about the movie is Rian Johnson saying, "screw your fan theories." Sometimes it's okay to have to use your imagination. I'm sure these questions will either be addressed in a novel or Ep IV.

    If its fleshed out in a different movie or book that doesnt help this movie to stand on its own.

    Quoted from Pahuffman:

    There's no way the other ships could have held all of the people and necessary equipment to keep the Rebellion operational.

    the 15 people left in the rebellion? And no one even answered Leias distress call, so how is this "the spark" hah.

    #366 6 years ago

    I really liked the part where Luke started vibrating and entered the red room. The CGI work with Leia as the fireman speaking backwards was OK, but I thought it could have been better. The part where Laura Dern screams and the space station goes dark and then explodes was the best though.

    #367 6 years ago

    Why does anyone care what a bunch of reviewers write on some rigged, politically correct movie review website?

    What bearing does it have on your life?

    These remakes and soft reboots mostly suck ass.

    total recall, robocop, clash of the titans, ghostbusters, ben hur, bad news bears, psycho, etc etc.

    when i was watching the new star wars reboot, I though it was a safe, hokey and lame re-write of the original movie.

    when it was over, I said, "Okay, I give up on this crap."

    #368 6 years ago

    Here’s an interesting post for those having a coronary about the RT audience scores:

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    #369 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mudflaps:

    Here’s an interesting post for those having a coronary about the RT audience scores:

    I'll bet you $100 that the guy who wrote that post has huge moobs and has never even held hands with a girl.

    #370 6 years ago

    #371 6 years ago
    Quoted from irobot:

    » YouTube video

    I don't know dude..the whole "nerd on the internet who is a virgin" thing...it's 2017.

    WE ARE ALL HUGE NERDS ON THE INTERNET. Including you.

    Seriously...back in, say 1992, did you ever figure you'd be wasting your time on computers like some big nerd? Now, you spend hours a day doing what would have gotten you labeled a huge sexless nerd back in the day.

    So might be time to retire that trope.

    #372 6 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    The only thing I'm getting more sick of than Star Wars is Red Letter Media Star Wars Youtube links.

    red letter media reviews are better than the movies themselves. Last movie worth a shit from the SW franchise was in 1983.

    Lucas even tried to fawk those up, with the special editions. That singing peanut character he put in jabbas palance in ROTJ, was the same cringe worthy bullshit that was in this (TLJ) movie. that's the kind of shit that started ruining the look and feel of the movies. Except SW, ESB and ROTJ had great character interaction. Character depth and chemistry. So the slap stick cheese he tried to ruin it with, wasn't enough to kill it.

    Now when you have movies like EP1,2 and 3, which all characters lack any depth or chemistry and you try to get by with all special effects. You fall flat and the slap stick humor just makes it all that much worse. When you feel nothing for any of the characters and just wish they would all die so the movie could be over. You have failed as a writer and a director.

    #373 6 years ago
    Quoted from irobot:

    I'll bet you $100 that the guy who wrote that post has huge moobs and has never even held hands with a girl.

    Could be. If you believe it’s fake, you’re kind of proving my point.

    Anyone can write anything on the internet. Whether it’s false scores on RT or a troll post on Facebook, the internet is a shady place.

    -4
    #374 6 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    red letter media reviews are better than the movies themselves.

    No, they aren't, except for the prequels. In a way, they are a lot like the Star Wars franchise itself. Hit their early trilogy out of the park, and then got lost in a bloated morass of self-importance, pandering, and trying-too-hard. The last one of their reviews I watched was Rogue One (well, made it halfway through, walked out early), which really missed the point and lacked the insight and logic that had been their trademark. It had none of the charm or creativity of the early installments. Just like Star Wars they are coasting along on past accomplishments and have little new to say. And, the whole "I'm raping women in the basement" joke - if you can call it that - is aging worse than Phantom Menace in the post-Weinstein era.

    BOOOOOOM. You like that?!

    #375 6 years ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    just gotta hope not to run out of gas.

    lol

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    so how is this "the spark" hah.

    I guess we'll have to hit the theaters in a couple of years to find out! I, for one, can't wait!

    #376 6 years ago
    Quoted from irobot:

    I'll bet you $100 that the guy who wrote that post has huge moobs and has never even held hands with a girl.

    True!...Hey, they ALL can't look like me!

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    #377 6 years ago

    I love Red Letter Media reviews. They make good points and add humor. I can't wait for their take on The Last Jedi.

    #378 6 years ago
    Quoted from DCFAN:

    Just for a reality check in this thread, so far in the poll above it is 165 (decent, better than the prequels) or better to 55 dislikes/garbage. That is 3 to 1.

    Sure, but you could also say that the poll shows that only 1 in 3 people thought the film was better then "decent". That was my pick. I'd give it a score of 70%. Somewhere between decent and good. For me it's about equal to Episode III.

    My overall rating of the films would be:

    Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
    Episode IV: A New Hope
    Episode VI: The Return of the Jedi
    Episode VII: The Force Awakens
    Rogue One
    Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
    Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
    Episode I: Phantom Menace
    Episode II: Attack of the Clones

    #379 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mudflaps:

    Could be. If you believe it’s fake, you’re kind of proving my point.
    Anyone can write anything on the internet. Whether it’s false scores on RT or a troll post on Facebook, the internet is a shady place.

    I don't think it's fake. I think it's all too real.

    when people obsess over a sci-fi movie, it kind of takes on a "never held hands with an actual woman" quality

    #380 6 years ago
    Quoted from Mudflaps:

    Here’s an interesting post for those having a coronary about the RT audience scores:

    Sounds like ISIS taking credit for things they had no part in. The guy is probably a french model too... Bonjour...

    Attention whores...

    #381 6 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    I don't know dude..the whole "nerd on the internet who is a virgin" thing...it's 2017.
    WE ARE ALL HUGE NERDS ON THE INTERNET. Including you.
    Seriously...back in, say 1992, did you ever figure you'd be wasting your time on computers like some big nerd? Now, you spend hours a day doing what would have gotten you labeled a huge sexless nerd back in the day.
    So might be time to retire that trope.

    Of course I'm a nerd, I'm an engineer.

    But not to this level. Arguing about if Kylo Ren's space laser should work in a trans-warp vacuum or not is olympic class nerd.

    Or taking umbrage over the movie ratings on some movie website.

    That's the 400 lb guy who lives in his mom's basement at age 37 level stuff.

    My nerdness is pretty much limited to reading textbooks about engineering disciplines that I'm not involved in. That's about the nerdiest thing I do.

    #382 6 years ago
    Quoted from irobot:

    I don't think it's fake. I think it's all too real.
    when people obsess over a sci-fi movie, it kind of takes on a "never held hands with an actual woman" quality

    Well, CinemaScore has it at an A (exit polling for movies, essentially). So people coming out of theaters are happy, but online there's a riot. I think it's definitely a smaller outrage that looks much bigger than it is.

    #383 6 years ago
    Quoted from spfxted:

    True!...Hey, they ALL can't look like me!

    I could go for a gin and tonic. That's my default beverage.

    #384 6 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Well, CinemaScore has it at an A (exit polling for movies, essentially). So people coming out of theaters are happy, but online there's a riot. I think it's definitely a smaller outrage that looks much bigger than it is.

    I doubt it will matter to anyone except for those who get joy out of caring about such stuff.

    Posting comments on the internet and receiving a reply releases endorphins in the brain. That's why people post pictures of their dinner and other random crap on facebook.

    When you see people getting really wrapped around an axle over a movie rating, that's an end unto itself.

    #385 6 years ago

    I don't disagree, but I've got extra time today. Hah.

    #386 6 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Well, CinemaScore has it at an A (exit polling for movies, essentially). So people coming out of theaters are happy, but online there's a riot. I think it's definitely a smaller outrage that looks much bigger than it is.

    They also give Episode II: Attack of the Clones an A-, so based on there scale I'd agree.

    #387 6 years ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    I don't think their are critics posting there reviews in fear of them their Disney Execs.

    I'm only pointing you're errors because your always so critical of everyone else.

    -4
    #388 6 years ago
    Quoted from Deaconblooze:

    I'm only pointing you're errors because your always so critical of everyone else.

    It's "your" goddammit. Please. For the love of god. It's so simple. You + are = "you're." Like, "you are annoying me" could work as "you're annoying." Something YOU own is "your." Like, "This is your error." It's so easy to understand. But nobody cares. This - not kneeling NFL players - is "what's wrong with society today."

    BOOM!

    And that was the whole point of my sentence, please read what I quoted. Whooosh.

    #389 6 years ago

    That was the joke, you curmudgeon.

    Edit: Yeah, alright, I see that you were poking at someone else in the post I quoted.

    The curmudgeon comment stands, though!

    #390 6 years ago
    Quoted from Deaconblooze:

    That was the joke, you curmudgeon.

    I also was joking.

    I'm thinking this Star Wars debate has now officially run out of juice? Or do we get a few stragglers who finally see the movie this weekend?

    #391 6 years ago

    At the risk of getting lambasted, here are my thoughts after digesting for a few days..

    It was too long. I agree the Finn storyline would be the easiest cut to make. It did add a little depth to the overall story. I liked Del Toro's character.

    There were some really cool scenes. I loved the sound cut during the jump to hyperspace to take down the First Order ship.

    I would have preferred that it maintain a more serious tone. I actually didn't care that Luke was a little aloof, we might expect that from someone that has had such a heavy burden for so many years (a la Yoda in V). I do feel that the saber toss cheapened the last scene from TFA.

    I think Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver are talents.

    I feel like an opportunity to give Leia a hero's sendoff was missed.

    There were a few scenes that made me cringe. It felt like a board of directors were trying to figure out how to be "hip" to the new generation (I kept thinking of Poochy from the Simpsons). I hated the scene where they contact Maz, for instance.

    The theater experience isn't for me. I don't like people clapping or hooting when something happens. The screen doesn't even look as good as I remember, I get much better black levels and contrast on my TV at home (not a particular expensive TV).

    Overall, I'm looking forward to watching it again to full grasp what happened.

    #392 6 years ago

    Yeah, I have to see it again myself. After all that tequila, I'm not sure what I saw! I also may have dozed off....was there a few scenes with those penguin thingys? Were they used at all except for a joke? ....damn!...i hate wasting another 2 hours!

    #393 6 years ago

    So besides all the bullshit, if I take my wife to see it who is not a SW geek will we enjoy it. I get they screwed the story line up but that happened before this movie.

    #394 6 years ago

    the penguin things were useless. Just disney feeling the need to put something cute in the movie so they can crank out toys kids want. Was the only point.

    Plus, chewie wasn't used correctly in his little scene.

    It would have been more fun and in character, if that penguin was watching him eat his mom or whatever relative it was, and chewie just stared at him as he took bites out.

    #395 6 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    the penguin things were useless. Just disney feeling the need to put something cute in the movie so they can crank out toys kids want.

    It's hilarious that they decided to give Chewie a pointless winged-ewok sidekick.

    He IS a sidekick. He's THE sidekick!!!

    Really didn't seem like much reason to have him in the movie. Same with C3P0 and R2. I think they are all on the way out, more of our childhoods relegated to the scrap heap so they can include more....ewwww...women in these movies!!!

    #396 6 years ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    the penguin things were useless. Just disney feeling the need to put something cute in the movie so they can crank out toys kids want. Was the only point.
    Plus, chewie wasn't used correctly in his little scene.
    It would have been more fun and in character, if that penguin was watching him eat his mom or whatever relative it was, and chewie just stared at him as he took bites out.

    Apparently the Penguin type animals are based off of a real bird on the actual island. I thought they initially provided some good comic relief but putting them on the Falcon was too much...just like how I saw a Porgs sticker slapped on bananas at the store...ugh. Yup, all for more toys and making Disney more money.

    #397 6 years ago

    By the time Episode 9 comes around Porgs and BB8 will be flying the Falcon as they go to deliver R2D2 and C3P0 to a scrap yard.

    Episode 9 should just be about killing every character left from the original trilogy since that's the current path. Then Episode 10 can be called "The Last Survivor" and it's about Nien Nub on the run.

    #398 6 years ago
    Quoted from Deaconblooze:

    I hated the scene where they contact Maz, for instance.

    I'm guessing the only reason they put her in it is cause JJ wants to use her in 9 and did not want people to forget about her.

    super weird scene as Finn new her for like 5 minutes then her place gets destroyed and Poe never met her, but hey, why not throw her in. Apparently no one else is going to help the resistance at this point seeing how no one came to Leias personal distress call.

    Whats funny is the R2D2 scene was one of the best in the movie and it was just him playing the old clip back to Luke lol.

    I did like Kylos temper tantrum in the elevator where he breaks his helmet.

    Gonna be strange how 9 will take place as the resistance is none existent with no ships or bases or help. Them showing that young kid at the end with the force pull of the broom makes me think they might try to do a time warp of like 10 years or something, kinda like E1 Anakin is a kid then hes a teenager then hes banging Padme.

    Or maybe he is the hero of the new trilogy Rian is going to make

    #399 6 years ago

    They'll probably do a little time skip. Rey needs a little time to discover her place a bit more. The Resistance was said to have a lot of support, but it was very scattered. I'm guessing that reports of Luke showing up will rally a lot of people back to arms and they'll begin to more formally organize or at least get the financial backing they need to arm up.

    #400 6 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    They'll probably do a little time skip. Rey needs a little time to discover her place a bit more. The Resistance was said to have a lot of support, but it was very scattered. I'm guessing that reports of Luke showing up will rally a lot of people back to arms and they'll begin to more formally organize or at least get the financial backing they need to arm up.

    If they had a lot of support, why did no one show up? Being scattered across the galaxy doesn't matter with how fast they travel thru the galaxy.

    Luke showed up per say, but now he is gone. Not sure how that will make people want to back them. I'm guessing the average person doesnt see or know about force ghosts so I dont think thats a selling point.

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