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*SPOILERS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad and other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel talk *


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    #3601 22 days ago

    It's complete B.S that Disney moved so fast with Episodes 7-9 because they wanted to satisfy the fans. Nice excuse Disney. No, Disney wanted to recoup the billions they gave George Lucas as quickly as possible. Instead of spending an extra year planning the new trilogy with ensuring the same director directed all 3, and planning out the start, middle, and end of the story Disney created a mess of a new trilogy that is downright dull at this point.

    Who are Rey's parents? Who will Kylo Ren side with? Who cares! lol

    #3602 22 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    I loved seeing Grand Moff Tarkin on screen again. One of the highlights of the film for me.
    And I said the same thing when I saw what Filoni & Favreau are doing with The Mandalorian. Same thing. They get it too. Making great Star Wars content is not difficult. Just give the fans what they want.

    Let's compare this to TFA and TLJ.....just for fun....which looks more ridiculous?

    I debated weather to put this scene or Han Solo trying Chewie's crossbow for the first time in 30 yrs.

    https://www.starwars.com/video/tell-us-where-the-base-is

    and this gem set the whole tone for the rest of the movie for me..

    #3604 21 days ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    It's complete B.S that Disney moved so fast with Episodes 7-9 because they wanted to satisfy the fans.

    FWIW its not the speed they moved, its the complete lack of a plan, and what little plan there was sucked ass so far.

    I mean come on, the bare minimum they should be able to do in this modern "franchise" era is plan out the plot of the three movies before betting the farm. Making stuff up as you go along is more fun though I guess.

    #3605 21 days ago
    Quoted from BC_Gambit:

    FWIW its not the speed they moved, its the complete lack of a plan, and what little plan there was sucked ass so far.
    I mean come on, the bare minimum they should be able to do in this modern "franchise" era is plan out the plot of the three movies before betting the farm. Making stuff up as you go along is more fun though I guess.

    The "vision" of the studio or director is never questioned. It's always the audience didn't understand it, or they moved to fast, or Russian bots, or some other buillshit reason.

    It's never blamed on what it really is: a bunch of hacks who have no vision nor understand the ability to communicate a narrative that is interesting, without adding in their own ideologies and prejudices. Yeah, Lucas lost his way at the end, but he knew how to tell a story, build a new world, and make it a part of people's lives for decades.

    #3606 21 days ago
    Quoted from Methos:

    The "vision" of the studio or director is never questioned. It's always the audience didn't understand it, or they moved to fast, or Russian bots, or some other buillshit reason.
    It's never blamed on what it really is: a bunch of hacks who have no vision nor understand the ability to communicate a narrative that is interesting, without adding in their own ideologies and prejudices. Yeah, Lucas lost his way at the end, but he knew how to tell a story, build a new world, and make it a part of people's lives for decades.

    I hear ya there. The prequel films actually seem better now after watching TFA and TLJ. Lucas created a huge world dominated by the Jedi, governments, and gangsters for the prequel trilogy while the world in the new trilogy feel's small and dull.

    #3610 19 days ago
    Quoted from rai:

    This doesn't bother me a bit, she's hot.

    Meh
    Spidey has a better butt

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    #3611 18 days ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Meh
    Spidey has a better butt [quoted image]

    Yikes, she's flat as a pancake. Lol, maybe she can use her powers to fix that.

    #3612 18 days ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Spidey has a better butt

    Looks like Flanders.
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    #3613 18 days ago
    Quoted from rai:

    This doesn't bother me a bit, she's hot.

    Not.

    #3614 15 days ago

    Don't worry, the rise of skywalker will "Will Reveal How Strong The Force Is"

    https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/10/02/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-will-reveal-how-strong-the-force-is

    #3615 15 days ago

    I recently dove down deeply into the redit "leaks" for the ROS & I have to say if the "leaks" are real then this movie is going to be dog shit bad. Like the worst one of them all bad. Sounds like a whole bunch of searching for lost artifacts, then stupidity, then finding the emperor still alive, then more stupidity. Insert light saber battles & the Knight who say ni, and Lando's old ass.

    #3616 15 days ago

    How can Rey become the spiritual heir to the Jedi? We kept coming back to ‘Who is Rey?’, and how can we give the most satisfying answer to that not only factually – because obviously people are interested in whether there's more to be learned of Rey's story – but more importantly who is she as a character?

    Are these not the kind of things that you'd normally have ironed out before filming the first scene of the first movie in your new trilogy?

    #3617 15 days ago
    Quoted from Tomahawkjim:

    I recently dove down deeply into the redit "leaks" for the ROS & I have to say if the "leaks" are real then this movie is going to be dog shit bad. Like the worst one of them all bad. Sounds like a whole bunch of searching for lost artifacts, then stupidity, then finding the emperor still alive, then more stupidity. Insert light saber battles & the Knight who say ni, and Lando's old ass.

    Well pardon me.....but if it's true that the Knights Who Say Ni make an appearance, and they have C3P0 & friends search to find a shrubbery, then this movie has serious potential. haha

    #3618 15 days ago

    I was skeptical when I read some of those crazy theories, because I thought they couldn't possibly jump the shark that bad. But now I'm pretty sold on the literal interpretation of the title. If the Emperor has the power to come back from the dead, then so will Luke. Hence the Rise of Skywalker. But I don't think that money shot is going to come until the end of the movie.

    I think when things are at their bleakest at the end of the film for the main characters, Luke's ghost will wield all the power of the force & he will literally rise from the dead to save the day. He will be the most powerful force user of all time. He will wipe out the Emperor, the sith, the first order, force ghosts, the jedi....all of it gone. After 9 movies, balance finally achieved & all prophecies fulfilled. Thanks Luke.

    Remember in ROTJ, the Emperor said "Luke Skywalker will become more powerful than any one of us. I have foreseen it." And JJ is on the record that the end of this movie will blow everyone's mind.

    Will it be cool? Will it be believable? Will it be a laugh rot of stupidity? Probably a mix of all three. We'll have to see. All I really ever wanted to see was Luke pulling Star Destroyers from orbit with the force & smashing them to oblivion. At least give the fans that. If it's Rey in the supreme force user role, I'll impale myself on my lightsaber.

    #3619 15 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Well pardon me.....but if it's true that the Knights Who Say Ni make an appearance, and they have C3P0 & friends search to find a shrubbery, then this movie has serious potential. haha

    Stop! What is your name? (Kylo Ren) What is your quest? (To make my grandfather proud) What is your favorite color? (Red. No Bla- Auuuuuuuuugh!)

    #3620 15 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    I was skeptical when I read some of those crazy theories, because I thought they couldn't possibly jump the shark that bad. But now I'm pretty sold on the literal interpretation of the title.

    Meh, they had a bunch of early release "spoilers" and alleged things seen on set for the last one, and they turned out to all be BS. I remember their were promises of a huge jedi battle on the planet Luke was on with him and Rey fighting all the Knights of Ren with a bunch of CGI and other things... None of it came to be.

    #3621 13 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Will it be cool? Will it be believable? Will it be a laugh rot of stupidity? Probably a mix of all three. We'll have to see. All I really ever wanted to see was Luke pulling Star Destroyers from orbit with the force & smashing them to oblivion. At least give the fans that. If it's Rey in the supreme force user role, I'll impale myself on my lightsaber.

    I betting this thing will leave you shaking your head As far as I'm concerned they've already jumped the shark, this is them backing up trying to get back on the ramp. But think about it, can they ever put this broke ass Humpty Dumpty together where people like us will either respect it or believe it? I don't think they can, too much bad material to erase....I think they're going to throw the kitchen sink at us, bring back the Emperor, Luke, Lando, and I'm betting even Yoda will make an appearance. It will be a thin plot with bad jokes......but will it make money is the real question. I'm thinking it will....undeservedly so.

    #3622 12 days ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    I betting this thing will leave you shaking your head As far as I'm concerned they've already jumped the shark, this is them backing up trying to get back on the ramp. But think about it, can they ever put this broke ass Humpty Dumpty together where people like us will either respect it or believe it? I don't think they can, too much bad material to erase....I think they're going to throw the kitchen sink at us, bring back the Emperor, Luke, Lando, and I'm betting even Yoda will make an appearance. It will be a thin plot with bad jokes......but will it make money is the real question. I'm thinking it will....undeservedly so.

    Looking back at this entire "trilogy ", it's ashame it's had any financial success.

    Two years ago, I remember going out Thursday night....to Toys R Us....for Force Friday, and feeling so damn removed from the entire experience. Two years later, and I can't believe how this toy lineup got even less exciting. I remember when TPM hit, and WOW the elation. Two decades and Disney later, and "please.......make this stop!"

    #3623 12 days ago

    Star wars isn't an event anymore, unfortunately. It's become just another franchise.

    #3624 11 days ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    Looking back at this entire "trilogy ", it's ashame it's had any financial success.
    Two years ago, I remember going out Thursday night....to Toys R Us....for Force Friday, and feeling so damn removed from the entire experience. Two years later, and I can't believe how this toy lineup got even less exciting. I remember when TPM hit, and WOW the elation. Two decades and Disney later, and "please.......make this stop!"

    It's all about the story and the characters I think, they just ported characters from any generic action film and dropped them in....that on top of no epic backstory to set them up just leaves you less invested in them. For me having Luke standing on the edge of the dune staring in the distance with the twin suns setting behind him telegraphed he was a young man who thought he could be more than just a farmer. Then the story expands with Ben telling him about the mythical Jedis just foreshadowed the hero's journey. With TFA and TLJ they made them heroes first and then bigger heroes later...(lesser so with Finn). Even the blue hair lady was like boom I'm a bad ass....no back story with any of them, Kylo, Finn, even the main character.

    Now, think about why are they bringing the Emperor back, where is the story for it, he's not needed...this is just lazy writing. They needed a baddie so they're bringing him back just like that. WTF! I think it would've made more sense to bring back Darth Maul.

    #3626 7 days ago

    (Sarcasm ahead)

    Love to know why everything has to be a trilogy. I seem to recall George Lucas had a ton of material he wanted to convey, but truncated pending the success of the first.
    If these new hacks have no direct plan and need to creatively brainstorm, why a trilogy?

    Hopefully we get some spin off stories Im dying to see. Anything less than 3 star wars movies per year would be an absolute tragedy.

    How Chewie got his crossbow and bandolier!

    The origins of R2D2’s voice programming featuring a culturally diverse cast.

    CGI Leia and Rey emasculating various male rebels while flawlessly using force powers to conquer the universe.

    #3627 7 days ago
    Quoted from Flowst:

    (Sarcasm ahead)
    Love to know why everything has to be a trilogy. I seem to recall George Lucas had a ton of material he wanted to convey, but truncated pending the success of the first.
    If these new hacks have no direct plan and need to creatively brainstorm, why a trilogy?
    Hopefully we get some spin off stories Im dying to see. Anything less than 3 star wars movies per year would be an absolute tragedy.
    How Chewie got his crossbow and bandolier!
    The origins of R2D2’s voice programming featuring a culturally diverse cast.
    CGI Leia and Rey emasculating various male rebels while flawlessly using force powers to conquer the universe.

    hope rose gets her well deserved spin off

    #3628 7 days ago
    Quoted from Flowst:

    (Sarcasm ahead)

    Hopefully we get some spin off stories Im dying to see. Anything less than 3 star wars movies per year would be an absolute tragedy.
    How Chewie got his crossbow and bandolier!
    The origins of R2D2’s voice programming featuring a culturally diverse cast.
    CGI Leia and Rey emasculating various male rebels while flawlessly using force powers to conquer the universe.

    Don't tempt the hacks and SJWs.

    #3629 7 days ago

    The Rose Tico story. “Don’t worry, Love will land this ship!”
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    #3630 7 days ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    It's all about the story and the characters I think, they just ported characters from any generic action film and dropped them in....that on top of no epic backstory to set them up just leaves you less invested in them. For me having Luke standing on the edge of the dune staring in the distance with the twin suns setting behind him telegraphed he was a young man who thought he could be more than just a farmer. Then the story expands with Ben telling him about the mythical Jedis just foreshadowed the hero's journey. With TFA and TLJ they made them heroes first and then bigger heroes later...(lesser so with Finn). Even the blue hair lady was like boom I'm a bad ass....no back story with any of them, Kylo, Finn, even the main character.
    Now, think about why are they bringing the Emperor back, where is the story for it, he's not needed...this is just lazy writing. They needed a baddie so they're bringing him back just like that. WTF! I think it would've made more sense to bring back Darth Maul.

    I agree entirely!

    I also thought of the entire arbitrary undercutting nature of this Turd, I mean Third Trilogy.

    So if the Emperor comes back, and Rey defeats him, not only does that negate and devalue Luke's character arc, but Anakin/Vader as well. Throws the entire purpose and art of six prior films into the trash, just to "reenergize" the series, all for more empty cash collection.

    #3631 6 days ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    I agree entirely!
    I also thought of the entire arbitrary undercutting nature of this Turd, I mean Third Trilogy.
    So if the Emperor comes back, and Rey defeats him, not only does that negate and devalue Luke's character arc, but Anakin/Vader as well. Throws the entire purpose and art of six prior films into the trash, just to "reenergize" the series, all for more empty cash collection.

    Ha, this came out today, it looks like he may have read our posts

    https://www.cnet.com/news/the-new-star-wars-trilogy-is-worse-than-the-prequels/

    #3632 6 days ago

    Some new photos released today......

    After being dumped from The Last Jedi, I see Abrams has made it a priority to give his childhood friend another featured appearance in The Rise of Skywalker. Snap Wexley, an overweight bearded plot who was SO important to the Resistance that they didn't use him in The Last Jedi. Utterly forgettable character, but you know, them bros gotta stick together and get their speaking role screen time.

    I find the celebrity casting like this annoying. Star cameos & personal favors are the priority over a talented established supporting cast. Like that article link mentioned above, at least Lucas was smart enough to cast strong veteran actors in supporting roles (like Christopher Lee, Jimmy Smits, etc) who didn't distract from the storytelling. They enhanced it. What did Laura Dern, Benicio Del Toro, Gwendoline Christie add to their roles? Not much. In fact I would argue the Baton Trooper from TFA who yells "Traitor!" and fights Fynn was more memorable than any of these star cameos. And the only time they got a supporting role right with Max Von Sydow, they killed him after 3 minutes of screen time. Sounds about right.

    I won't even comment on that giant slug. Too easy a target.

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    #3633 6 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Some new photos released today......
    After being dumped from The Last Jedi, I see Abrams has made it a priority to give his childhood friend another featured appearance in The Rise of Skywalker. Snap Wexley, an overweight bearded plot who was SO important to the Resistance that they didn't use him in The Last Jedi. Utterly forgettable character, but you know, them bros gotta stick together and get their speaking role screen time.
    I find the celebrity casting like this annoying. Star cameos & personal favors are the priority over a talented established supporting cast. Like that article link mentioned above, at least Lucas was smart enough to cast strong veteran actors in supporting roles (like Christopher Lee, Jimmy Smits, etc) who didn't distract from the storytelling. They enhanced it. What did Laura Dern, Benicio Del Toro, Gwendoline Christie add to their roles? Not much. In fact I would argue the Baton Trooper from TFA who yells "Traitor!" and fights Fynn was more memorable than any of these star cameos. And the only time they got a supporting role right with Max Von Sydow, they killed him after 3 minutes of screen time. Sounds about right.
    I won't even comment on that giant slug. Too easy a target.
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    Max Von Sydow was the best part of the movie.

    #3634 6 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Some new photos released today......

    I won't even comment on that giant slug. Too easy a target.
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    Which Slug? The one the right or the left?

    #3635 6 days ago
    Quoted from Methos:

    Max Von Sydow was the best part of the movie.

    You know there was a lot of talk at the time about the opening line of TFA, when Max Von Sydow says "This will begin to make things right", as he handed the map of Luke's location to the Resistance.

    But the double meaning was that he was also referring to Disney's new trilogy itself. They were talking to the loyal fans who were upset at Lucas for so many years. The fans who hated the prequels. The fans who have waited 30 years for Episode 7. Now Disney is going to make things right & restore your faith & love of Star Wars.

    Kind of ironic that the COMPLETE OPPOSITE happened. This new trilogy made me appreciate & love the prequels even more!

    #3636 6 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    This new trilogy made me appreciate & love the prequels even more!

    I still say TPM isn't that bad, it's probably the closest we'll ever get to the original trilogy. The first 15 minutes are great as is Liam and the final duel.

    #3637 6 days ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    Some new photos released today......
    After being dumped from The Last Jedi, I see Abrams has made it a priority to give his childhood friend another featured appearance in The Rise of Skywalker. Snap Wexley, an overweight bearded plot who was SO important to the Resistance that they didn't use him in The Last Jedi. Utterly forgettable character, but you know, them bros gotta stick together and get their speaking role screen time.
    I find the celebrity casting like this annoying. Star cameos & personal favors are the priority over a talented established supporting cast. Like that article link mentioned above, at least Lucas was smart enough to cast strong veteran actors in supporting roles (like Christopher Lee, Jimmy Smits, etc) who didn't distract from the storytelling. They enhanced it. What did Laura Dern, Benicio Del Toro, Gwendoline Christie add to their roles? Not much. In fact I would argue the Baton Trooper from TFA who yells "Traitor!" and fights Fynn was more memorable than any of these star cameos. And the only time they got a supporting role right with Max Von Sydow, they killed him after 3 minutes of screen time. Sounds about right.
    I won't even comment on that giant slug. Too easy a target.
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    That....is an actual image released from Disney??????????????

    Jesus tap dancing christ.

    And yeah, lose the fat friend on the left. He was awful even for the blip he was onscreen, as I couldn't stop thinking about him being a J.J. pal.

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