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*SPOILERS* -TROS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad & other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel


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    #2351 1 year ago
    Quoted from Jason43:

    Have things gotten so bad that we've all forgotten just how badly George Lucas butchered Star Wars?

    In comparison the prequels maybe more watchable than The Last Jedi, which is damning with faint praise.

    I think thats just a clickbait rumor, no one that I can recall has asked for Lucas to come back and save Star Wars. Whatever mojo he had going for him was pretty much gone by Return of the Jedi which itself was spotty.

    Been noted that very, very few directors have consistently good output. Some only have one or two movies that make the grade and its all downhill from there. George Lucas and a bunch of talented people created a fantastic universe to set stories in, pity it is so underutilized.

    #2352 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    People are putting 2+2 together and starting to investigate. Where is the first place you going to look?
    Social media of course. You would be amazed what people will blurt out in public.
    Check out this site if you have the stomach, Hollywood is truly a cesspool.
    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/

    The tweets by James Gunn are not at all funny and disgusting. I don't blame Disney for cutting ties with him.

    Say stupid things on public record, win stupid prizes.

    Unfortunately that doesn't carry all the way up to the highest position of power in the US.

    #2353 1 year ago

    Some humor to lighten the mood..

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    #2354 1 year ago

    Filming of EP9 Got under way yesterday

    Mark Hamill is CONFIRMED to be in EP9

    Let's see how they can "un-fuk" what they did in TLJ

    Gonna be interesting.....

    #2355 1 year ago
    Quoted from Jason43:

    Have things gotten so bad that we've all forgotten just how badly George Lucas butchered Star Wars?

    I may be in the minority but I think Episodes 1-3 are pretty good Star Wars movies. Yes some of the acting is bad in parts but the prequels did an amazing job of showing just how large the Star Wars universe is, how big of a deal the Jedi were and showed how things got to where they were at in the original trilogy. The prequel trilogy overall created a larger world for Star Wars fans which I think is pretty cool.

    #2356 1 year ago

    I wouldn't call them pretty good, but at least they felt like Star Wars.

    #2357 1 year ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    I may be in the minority but I think Episodes 1-3 are pretty good Star Wars movies. Yes some of the acting is bad in parts but the prequels did an amazing job of showing just how large the Star Wars universe is, how big of a deal the Jedi were and showed how things got to where they were at in the original trilogy. The prequel trilogy overall created a larger world for Star Wars fans which I think is pretty cool.

    You’re in the minority in this thread for sure. But the prequels made billions at the box office and on DVD sales, so someone must have enjoyed them.

    #2358 1 year ago

    The Clone Wars cartoon did a wonderful job of legitimizing & expanding upon the material established in the Prequels. Sure the movies are flawed, full of stiff acting & some lame story lines, but the cartoon turned my thoughts around. There's some really great Star Wars stuff from that era.

    #2359 1 year ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    but the prequels did an amazing job of showing just how large the Star Wars universe is,

    By including baby Boba Fett, baby Greedo, having Anakin build C3P0, etc...? If anything, I feel they showed just how small and limited this universe is.

    #2360 1 year ago
    Quoted from oktobernv:

    Filming of EP9 Got under way yesterday
    Mark Hamill is CONFIRMED to be in EP9
    Let's see how they can "un-fuk" what they did in TLJ
    Gonna be interesting.....

    I'm guessing a flashback scene to him being alive and kicking some ass.

    I still maintain that's all they really had to do in Last Jedi for people to love it (worked for Rogue One)

    #2361 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    I'm guessing a flashback scene to him being alive and kicking some ass.
    I still maintain that's all they really had to do in Last Jedi for people to love it (worked for Rogue One)

    i want more alien tit milk scenes

    #2362 1 year ago

    Do some of that special effect de-aging that Marvel does to Michael Douglas in the Antman movies. Make a killer “30 year old” Mark Hamill flashback scene. I mean he did just shave his beard.

    I’d argue someone could do a Luke post-Jedi spin-off movie eventually. Luke vs Thrawn story, throw in Mara Jade & the Jedi school. Use that de-aging tech to make him young the whole movie, give the fans what they want. It could easily be done, use body double for the action scenes. Do this before Hamill turns 70 already. Fans heads would explode.

    #2363 1 year ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    i want more alien tit milk scenes

    Lol
    No force Luke sucked.
    Probably too late but any flashback, ghosty, or reincarnated Luke has to be better than this...
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    #2364 1 year ago

    Personally, I don't think they should have fired him. That's back when he worked for Troma. Troma is a totally different company and offput humor like that is something that is taken in stride. Fact remains, he makes some of the best superhero movies out there. For disney to fire him, is a huge misstep. Disney has been stepping in a lot of shit lately and probably should watch out which franchises they decide to shit on next. Or they might not have any resources worth a shit left. Who cares in general? You think if Tosh started directing movies, people would go back and slander past tweets of some crap he said? Probably, but should anyone give a shit? Not really. Only thing they should care about is if he's doing a good job at the job he was hired to do.

    #2365 1 year ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    I may be in the minority but I think Episodes 1-3 are pretty good Star Wars movies. Yes some of the acting is bad in parts but the prequels did an amazing job of showing just how large the Star Wars universe is, how big of a deal the Jedi were and showed how things got to where they were at in the original trilogy. The prequel trilogy overall created a larger world for Star Wars fans which I think is pretty cool.

    One thing they did get right was the lightsaber duels. This duel is one of the stand outs for me. And the John Williams score for this is epic.

    #2366 1 year ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    Personally, I don't think they should have fired him.

    They should have done their research and not hired him in the first place.

    For context? Huston Huddleston is a convicted pedophile. Screenshot is from Gunn's own website.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Huddleston

    Huston was arrested on April 24, 2018 and charged with possession of child pornography and other crimes, including contacting a minor with intent to commit a felony. He was held at the Pitchess Detention Center North Facility on $750,000 bail and pleaded not guilty on May 22, 2018. His court date was June 12, 2018. On June 21, Huddleston pled guilty to one misdemeanor charge of possessing child pornography and has been added to the sex offender registry.

    I'm thinking this is why Gunn went under the bus so quickly, Disney doesn't want some of the more outrageous.. items.. seeing the light of day.
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    #2367 1 year ago
    Quoted from Vino:

    Lol
    No force Luke sucked.
    Probably too late but any flashback, ghosty, or reincarnated Luke has to be better than this...
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    The look in Hammill's eye.. just priceless.

    #2368 1 year ago
    Quoted from PinSinner:

    One thing they did get right was the lightsaber duels. This duel is one of the stand outs for me. And the John Williams score for this is epic.

    That was the highlight of the entire prequel trilogy. Nothing came to close to that sequence again.

    #2369 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Gunn's own words and actions got him fired, as a father with three children his multiple postings were utterly reprehensible.
    Posting a video on his *own website* of 100 prepubescent girls singing "I touch myself" and then posting he was sexually aroused is not funny to normal people.

    They?
    Dan made a video of himself raping a doll. Sound normal and well adjusted to you? I'll not post the link nor screenshot here. Disgusting.
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    So this guy sounds like a pedo too... that last one talks about NAMBLA... had to look it up... North American Man/Boy Love Association... what the f*&^ is happening in this world ?!?

    #2370 1 year ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    So this guy sounds like a pedo too... that last one talks about NAMBLA... had to look it up... North American Man/Boy Love Association... what the f*&^ is happening in this world ?!?

    Been around for some time, just getting more sunlight with the advent of social media and the lowering of standards in society in general.

    The Victorians considered actors, actresses and the theater a cut below prostitutes, I see nothing happening today that convinces me they were not utterly correct in their assessment once you start looking.

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    #2371 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    They should have done their research and not hired him in the first place.
    For context? Huston Huddleston is a convicted pedophile. Screenshot is from Gunn's own website.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Huddleston
    Huston was arrested on April 24, 2018 and charged with possession of child pornography and other crimes, including contacting a minor with intent to commit a felony. He was held at the Pitchess Detention Center North Facility on $750,000 bail and pleaded not guilty on May 22, 2018. His court date was June 12, 2018. On June 21, Huddleston pled guilty to one misdemeanor charge of possessing child pornography and has been added to the sex offender registry.
    I'm thinking this is why Gunn went under the bus so quickly, Disney doesn't want some of the more outrageous.. items.. seeing the light of day.
    [quoted image]

    that was kind of my point. If it was so important, it should have been a problem from the get go. Not down the road after he already proved himself as a great director. Only becomes a problem if some shit goes down somewhere else and they are trying to make it look like they give a shit. Which we all know they don't. Only time they care is if the $$$ is in danger.

    #2372 1 year ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    that was kind of my point. If it was so important, it should have been a problem from the get go. Not down the road after he already proved himself as a great director. Only becomes a problem if some shit goes down somewhere else and they are trying to make it look like they give a shit. Which we all know they don't. Only time they care is if the $$$ is in danger.

    Definitely, but Disney doesn't exist to be a good friend to their talent. They're a publicly traded company which means they have one master only, the stock price. If you endanger that when your immature/gross/whatever tweets from the past start drawing negative attention, you have to expect to be thrown overboard. Of course the cost/benefit calculation might have come out differently if these were Chris Pratt's tweets, it's a much bigger deal to fire the literal face of your franchise than to can a director.

    #2373 1 year ago

    Start your weekend with some humor

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    #2374 1 year ago

    Is James Gunn coming back to GOTG?:

    http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/07/31/james-gunn-guardians-of-the-galaxy-reinstated-possible/

    "Sources Reportedly Suggest Disney Could Reinstate James Gunn" -- any headline with "reportedly," "suggest" and "could" in it sounds like a sure thing to me.

    #2375 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Is James Gunn coming back to GOTG?:
    http://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/07/31/james-gunn-guardians-of-the-galaxy-reinstated-possible/
    "Sources Reportedly Suggest Disney Could Reinstate James Gunn" -- any headline with "reportedly," "suggest" and "could" in it sounds like a sure thing to me.

    Doubtful: They would look weak after firing the guy, last thing a studio wants is a bunch of actors to think they have "juice." Next thing you know they will be demanding more money. Bad precedent.

    Also Disney wants to protect their number one franchise (if I had to guess) Marvel from even having a whiff of taint about it.

    See crashing Solo box office numbers as fans stayed away in droves. Disney doesn't want the cash cow Marvel franchise taking a hit.

    My money is that Gunn is picked up quietly for another project.

    #2376 1 year ago

    saw this and thought it was funny

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    #2378 1 year ago

    domestic total was ~ = first 2 day total of TFA domestic

    I guess pan-sexual Lando only get you so far.

    #2379 1 year ago

    Hearing rumors about episode 9 starting with Luke waking up going, "It was all a dream...". Maybe just my hopes and not rumors.

    #2380 1 year ago

    Worked ok for this movie almost 80 years ago.

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    #2381 1 year ago
    Quoted from judremy:

    Hearing rumors about episode 9 starting with Luke waking up going, "It was all a dream...". Maybe just my hopes and not rumors.

    Then "Only Just a Dream" by Nelly kicks in and we get a lingering wide-shot of Luke walking thoughtfully along the shore, stopping only to force-skip a rock across the water. The scene ends with Luke spearing a Porg with his lightsabre, no doubt to share with Chewie around the campfire that evening.

    #2382 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Then "Only Just a Dream" by Nelly kicks in and we get a lingering wide-shot of Luke walking thoughtfully along the shore, stopping only to force-skip a rock across the water. The scene ends with Luke spearing a Porg with his lightsabre, no doubt to share with Chewie around the campfire that evening.

    Maybe they can do a tie in with Sony, and have the Ghostbusters catch force Luke in a trap.

    #2383 1 year ago

    I'm fairly sure Disney is not going to hire Gunn back, what is else is there waiting to be discovered?

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1028130823080267777/photo/1

    James Gunn’s mentor, director Stanley Lloyd Kaufman, 72, tweeted about mentoring Gunn at a NAMBLA meeting, the “great wisdom” of Tony Podesta, peeing on children, sacrificing small children, and attending a Satanic Baby sacrifice.

    You want to have nightmares, try googling "Tony Podesta art"

    #2384 1 year ago

    Jon Favreau's Star Wars live action series will focus on planet Mandalore. The report from Making Star Wars states the series could be taking place three years after the destruction of the second Death Star and the death of the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. The series would be about Mandalore falling into a "state of turmoil" with many parties working to restore the planet to its rightful place, with those effects reverberating across the galaxy.

    https://winteriscoming.net/2018/08/08/jon-favreaus-live-action-star-wars-series-cost-disney-100-million/

    #2385 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    I'm fairly sure Disney is not going to hire Gunn back, what is else is there waiting to be discovered?
    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1028130823080267777/photo/1
    James Gunn’s mentor, director Stanley Lloyd Kaufman, 72, tweeted about mentoring Gunn at a NAMBLA meeting, the “great wisdom” of Tony Podesta, peeing on children, sacrificing small children, and attending a Satanic Baby sacrifice.
    You want to have nightmares, try googling "Tony Podesta art"
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    [quoted image]

    Be careful about believing these sources. I delved in a little to what you have posted and it basically led to a bunch of conspiracy nonsense including that whole Hillary Clinton runs a pedophile ring in the basement of a pizza parlor with Tom Hanks.

    Not saying Gunn didn't post inappropriate content, just be skeptical of your sources.

    #2386 1 year ago

    I just watched Phantom Menace for the first time since it came out on DVD so basically been 13 years so I didn’t remember it all.

    Have to say this is one bad movie, the acting was bad even from the big name actors, but the no name such as Annikan and his mom are cringe worthy. Jar Jar is as bad as I remember and especially during the battle sequences where he had a blaster stuck to his foot and basically the gag is every time he takes a step he kills another droid.

    There was one saving grace to the movie, I suppose the light saber battle with Darth Maul.

    I really can’t understand why the plot line had the queen being impersonated by her body guard, except as a plot device to have queen slumming around on Tantooine. It’s not like there was an attempt on her life where the plot twist would have made us go ahh, and then at the end she just tells everyone so it doesn’t make any sense.

    As for queen and Anikan’s blossoming affair, it just seems creepy.

    Finally Anikin is such a weak actor, but then having him fly inadvertently onto a battleship and destroy it and escape is even too much for Star Wars which has a lot of such weak plausible momemts.

    Then we have R2D2 who is like a miracle worker in every movie and C3PO don’t get me started.

    I’m still going to venture into the other two sequels but tell me do they get any better at all?

    #2387 1 year ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    Jon Favreau's Star Wars live action series will focus on planet Mandalore. The report from Making Star Wars states the series could be taking place three years after the destruction of the second Death Star and the death of the Emperor in Return of the Jedi. The series would be about Mandalore falling into a "state of turmoil" with many parties working to restore the planet to its rightful place, with those effects reverberating across the galaxy.
    https://winteriscoming.net/2018/08/08/jon-favreaus-live-action-star-wars-series-cost-disney-100-million/

    Finally a decent SW related post.

    Seems like Lucasfilm's new focus for non-film content is based in the period after ROTJ, as this is the most fertile timeline for new stories to be told. I believe the new Rebels cartoon is based in this period as well. Makes sense.

    That Mandalore rumor sounds like it could be pretty interesting. Your average fan has no idea about the history of Mandalorians or their waring clans, and a series focused on a bunch of "boba fetts" could be a big draw. They could even do some flashbacks to when Darth Maul ruled Mandalore, or confirm that Boba Fett escaped the Sarlacc pit. Could even debut live-action Rebels Characters, as they spent a lot of time there.

    #2388 1 year ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    confirm that Boba Fett escaped the Sarlacc pit

    If they do this, I hope Boba Fettt gets out of the pit in as slap-stick of a manner as he got into it, burp and all.

    #2389 1 year ago

    I guess John Favreau voiced Pre Vizsla (the Leader of Mandalorian Death Watch) on the Clone Wars cartoon too. I'd say this rumor is in the bag for accuracy.

    #2390 1 year ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    Be careful about believing these sources. I delved in a little to what you have posted and it basically led to a bunch of conspiracy nonsense including that whole Hillary Clinton runs a pedophile ring in the basement of a pizza parlor with Tom Hanks.
    Not saying Gunn didn't post inappropriate content, just be skeptical of your sources.

    I'm the largest skeptic you will find.

    Gunn's stuff is from his own tweet stream or his website, same for his "mentor."

    Disney cleared him out toot sweet for a reason.

    Have you tried googling Podesta's art? Graphic, twisted stuff.

    The rest of your statement I have no opinion and rather outside the scope of our discussion here in regards to Disney and Star Wars.

    #2391 1 year ago

    WTF does some guy named Tony Podesta have to do with Tim Gunn anyway? Why even bring him up?

    #2392 1 year ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    WTF does some guy named Tony Podesta have to do with Tim Gunn anyway? Why even bring him up?

    See post #2383

    #2393 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    See post #2383

    Can we not?

    Quoted from gdonovan:

    I'm fairly sure Disney is not going to hire Gunn back, what is else is there waiting to be discovered?
    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1028130823080267777/photo/1
    James Gunn’s mentor, director Stanley Lloyd Kaufman, 72, tweeted about mentoring Gunn at a NAMBLA meeting, the “great wisdom” of Tony Podesta, peeing on children, sacrificing small children, and attending a Satanic Baby sacrifice.
    You want to have nightmares, try googling "Tony Podesta art"
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    [quoted image]

    I’d wish these images be deleted from the thread, I do not want to see such images.

    I appreciate that was posted as a sample example to condem the perpetrators but can be deleted (imo) this is not a forum for such images.

    Thank you.

    #2394 1 year ago
    Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

    That Mandalore rumor sounds like it could be pretty interesting. Your average fan has no idea about the history of Mandalorians or their waring clans, and a series focused on a bunch of "boba fetts" could be a big draw. They could even do some flashbacks to when Darth Maul ruled Mandalore, or confirm that Boba Fett escaped the Sarlacc pit. Could even debut live-action Rebels Characters, as they spent a lot of time there.

    Can't say I was interested in the Mandalore backstory very much, Boba was sort of a semi-interesting character till Lucas dumped him the pit. The whole clone wars backstory from the prequels.. meh. Was it explored much in the animated series? I remember catching one or two episodes with the kids which featured Mandalore characters but didn't jump out at me very much.

    I know I'm old, would be nice to have seen some of Brian Daily's Han Solo adventure books adapted.

    #2395 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Can we not?

    I’d wish these images be deleted from the thread, I do not want to see such images.
    I appreciate that was posted as a sample example to condem the perpetrators but can be deleted (imo) this is not a forum for such images.

    I will see if I can add a spoiler tag, fair enough?

    <sorry I cannot, too much time has passed on the posting and locked out>

    Or alternatively feel free to add me to your ignore list and you will no longer see the postings.

    #2396 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    I’d wish these images be deleted from the thread, I do not want to see such images.

    If you tag them NSFW (and use that setting yourself) then they should not appear for you any longer. I believe the poster can also self-tag sensitive images as NSFW? Haven't tried it but I think that's right.

    #2397 1 year ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    If you tag them NSFW (and use that setting yourself) then they should not appear for you any longer. I believe the poster can also self-tag sensitive images as NSFW? Haven't tried it but I think that's right.

    Fair enough, and personally hope the subject doesn't come up again.

    Disappointed in Gunn, GOG was hands down one of my favorite Marvel movies.

    #2398 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Disappointed in Gunn, GOG was hands down one of my favorite Marvel movies.

    Just goes to show, you can be a dip$@%t and still be highly talented in your chosen field. Or, for that matter, a decent guy and still churn out crap like late-era Lucas.

    #2399 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Can't say I was interested in the Mandalore backstory very much, Boba was sort of a semi-interesting character till Lucas dumped him the pit. The whole clone wars backstory from the prequels.. meh. Was it explored much in the animated series? I remember catching one or two episodes with the kids which featured Mandalore characters but didn't jump out at me very much.
    I know I'm old, would be nice to have seen some of Brian Daily's Han Solo adventure books adapted.

    I have a novel idea...how about they try something completely new.

    Or if they can’t come up with something completely fresh, then adapt some of the old novel material. Or at least expolore the old republic.

    I think Star Wars needs to remove itself from the original timeline and characters. It needs a whole new story, new characters, new time, new force abilities, a new saga. And in my opinion they need to scrap these stand alone movies.

    #2400 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Can we not?

    I’d wish these images be deleted from the thread, I do not want to see such images.
    I appreciate that was posted as a sample example to condem the perpetrators but can be deleted (imo) this is not a forum for such images.
    Thank you.

    Quoted from gdonovan:

    feel free to add me to your ignore list and you will no longer see the postings.

    Quoted from gdonovan:

    Fair enough, and personally hope the subject doesn't come up again.

    Stop bringing it up then. You’re the one who continually keeps posting this pedophile conspiracy bullshit.

    Dude seriously... we come to this thread for a healthy Star Wars discussion. That garbage doesn’t belong here. At all.

    I’m not putting you on ignore. You bring a lot to the Star Wars discussion. Just stay on target. Stay on target...

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