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*SPOILERS* -TROS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad & other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel


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    #1801 1 year ago

    I mean ‘The last Jedi’, it was bad although the special effects were good.

    Can’t believe how badly they treated Po and was expecting Benito Del Toro to do a triple cross somehow.

    It just was very meh to me.

    #1802 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    I mean ‘The last Jedi’, it was bad although the special effects were good.
    Can’t believe how badly they treated Po and was expecting Benito Del Toro to do a triple cross somehow.

    Oh yes I didn't know people needed to rewatch this to remember it sucked

    Well Po deserves everything he gets casue he's a complete tool...but yes THEY turned him in to the tool in first place.
    I was the same way aboot treating Finn poorly.
    I am happy with the treatment of Admiral Ackbar though...screw that doucher.

    #1803 1 year ago

    Star Trek is a much better franchise.

    #1804 1 year ago
    Quoted from zr11990:

    Star Trek is a much better franchise.

    Star Trek WAS the much better until JJ jacked it. New movies are complete garbage
    EDIT: Force Awakens was much better than any of the new STs

    #1805 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Can’t believe how badly they treated Po and was expecting Benito Del Toro to do a triple cross somehow.

    The First Order reward del Toro for what exactly? Telling them to look for small transports escaping the big ship? (Holdo's Secret Amazing Plan) Problem is... HOW DID HE KNOW THAT?

    The question then is "how COULD he know that?". Finn/Rose could have told him, then he betrays their trust. But if they knew [Holdo's] plan they wouldn't have done the Casino Mission in the first place. del Toro betrays them with information he could only gain if they had no reason to find him in the first place.

    It's storytelling so bad it becomes a logic paradox.

    #1806 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    The First Order reward del Toro for what exactly? Telling them to look for small transports escaping the big ship? (Holdo's Secret Amazing Plan) Problem is... HOW DID HE KNOW THAT?
    The question then is "how COULD he know that?". Finn/Rose could have told him, then he betrays their trust. But if they knew [Holdo's] plan they wouldn't have done the Casino Mission in the first place. del Toro betrays them with information he could only gain if they had no reason to find him in the first place.
    It's storytelling so bad it becomes a logic paradox.

    I have not rewatched it but supposedly he overhears the plan on the way to snokes' ship. It is not a great movie but they at least papered over that hole.

    #1807 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    The First Order reward del Toro for what exactly? Telling them to look for small transports escaping the big ship? (Holdo's Secret Amazing Plan) Problem is... HOW DID HE KNOW THAT?
    The question then is "how COULD he know that?". Finn/Rose could have told him, then he betrays their trust. But if they knew [Holdo's] plan they wouldn't have done the Casino Mission in the first place. del Toro betrays them with information he could only gain if they had no reason to find him in the first place.
    It's storytelling so bad it becomes a logic paradox.

    if it didnt have the star wars named attached to it there is no way it would have near the rating it got from critics... its just so bad on so many levels.

    #1808 1 year ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    if it didnt have the star wars named attached to it there is no way it would have near the rating it got from critics... its just so bad on so many levels.

    Disney's made plenty of sci-fi in the past. Black Hole, Tron, Rocketeer, Atlantis, John Carter. Problem was nobody cared.

    In my mind they weren't buying Lucasfilm, they were buying the FANS. So now they can make a half-ass sci-fi film, slap the SW name on and BOOM! Guaranteed smash hit.

    Point being, don't shit on the fans. They're the only reason the SW brand has value.

    #1809 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    In my mind they weren't buying Lucasfilm, they were buying the FANS. So now they can make a half-ass sci-fi film, slap the SW name on and BOOM! Guaranteed smash hit.

    Yes...just like the prequels Lucasfilm made.

    #1810 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    Point being, don't shit on the fans. They're the only reason the SW brand has value.

    This is one of the main reasons for the backlash, RJ (as you saw in the interview )told Hamil we shouldn’t care what the fans think.

    #1811 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    I'd agree the last 30 minutes of Rogue One was the "most Star Warsy Star Wars" since the 80s.
    But everything before that battle is crap. Filler, lame characters, stupid motivations and a plot servicing "why Jyn Erso is the main character" instead of her character servicing the plot.

    It had a LOT of filler.

    I never understood why the pilot wasn't just given the death star plans. Well, aside from the movie being 15 minutes long.

    If you are going to smuggle out a message to your daughter, just as easy to send the plans out too.

    #1812 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    If you are going to smuggle out a message to your daughter, just as easy to send the plans out too.

    Exactly and that's why the first hour and a half of R1 is pointless. The only relevant plot point is the father telling where to find the Death Star plans. Nothing else that happens has any effect on the outcome.

    Act 3 works because there is a plan, there are stakes, and there are consequences.

    #1813 1 year ago

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/05/17/obi-wan-kenobi-movie-rumored-to-be-happening-will-be-a-direct-prequel-to-a-new-hope

    well, looks like we are getting a Obi Wan movie that is a prequel to A New Hope.

    Sooo, rouge one happened right before a A New Hope, but they killed off all those characters so who knows if there is any cross over with that.

    so we have ep 1,2,3, 3b?, 4,5,6 ,7,8,9 ??

    would be cooler to have a younger obi wan than old man obi wan imo, not that i really care anymore

    #1814 1 year ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    Sooo, rouge one happened right before a A New Hope, but they killed off all those characters so who knows if there is any cross over with that.

    God I hope not.

    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    well, looks like ...

    Yes but we've always known this was going to happen, it's no surprise. They'll get every drop out of every character and theme they can, which is to be expected anfter the billions spent

    #1815 1 year ago

    Did you guys here the latest on Lando, I'm sure that is going to go over well. It might be considered a spoiler but if you google "Star Wars Writer Confirms" you'll find the news.

    #1816 1 year ago

    Saw it earlier about lando. Star wars is the pc poster child for Disney, apparently. I just don't fucking care anymore.

    #1817 1 year ago

    I guess I'm the only one who doesn't know what "pansexual" means. The news articles about Lando don't even define it.

    #1818 1 year ago
    Quoted from Darscot:

    Did you guys here the latest on Lando, I'm sure that is going to go over well. It might be considered a spoiler but if you google "Star Wars Writer Confirms" you'll find the news.

    LOL! Is that a joke?
    Really Disney? Pathetic.

    #1819 1 year ago

    You super Star Wars fans are so goddamn tame. Our star trek heroes have been banging alien Chicas for 50 years.

    #1820 1 year ago

    Personally I couldn't care less what floats people's boat. My only issue is Lando was slick as fuck and cool. He was basically the token black guy but he just killed in the role and made the character an icon. Apparently if you that charasmatic it means you trying to sleep with the men and not just the women. Lando was not that type of flamboyant. If the feel they need that character in the movie don't be so lazy and write it.

    #1821 1 year ago
    Quoted from Darscot:

    Personally I couldn't care less what floats people's boat. My only issue is Lando was slick as fuck and cool. He was basically the token black guy but he just killed in the role and made the character an icon. Apparently if you that charasmatic it means you trying to sleep with the men and not just the women. Lando was not that type of flamboyant. If the feel they need that character in the movie don't be so lazy and write it.

    Rumor is confirmed then.

    Also from the interview- "“There’s a fluidity to Donald and Billy Dee’s [portrayal of Lando’s] sexuality,” Kasdan told the Huffington Post. “I mean, I would have loved to have gotten a more explicitly LGBT character into this movie. I think it’s time, certainly, for that, and I love the fluidity ― sort of the spectrum of sexuality that Donald appeals to and that droids are a part of.”

    So Billy Dee and droids too are "sexually fluid" I wonder if they asked Billy Dee how he feels about this.

    These people are broken and won't be satisfied until the franchise is buried in the dirt.

    #1822 1 year ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    These people are broken and won't be satisfied until the franchise is buried in the dirt.

    I just don’t understand why Star Wars is the franchise they have taken over and decided to run into the dirt. Disney paid a bunch of money for the franchise but they just handed it over to these morons and are letting them run amok with their SJW agenda.

    Oh well, we all know Solo is going to totally bomb next week. I hope it stays below Deadpool, that would be freaking awesome.

    #1823 1 year ago
    Quoted from Darscot:

    Personally I couldn't care less what floats people's boat... Lando was not that type of flamboyant...

    Classic.

    #1824 1 year ago

    I am a lifelong Star Wars fan. When I heard that Disney bought it out I was disgusted. I knew what was going to happen, and Disney did not let me down. They are ruining it. Plain and simple. Its not about making a great movie that the fans are going to love anymore. (I did not mind the prequels.) Now its about, Lets just change things because now we can! And we have to be PC, just so people can't say that we are not PC, regardless of if it is vital to the storytelling or not. And we need to make tons of money.

    #1825 1 year ago

    wonder how many of y'all will cave and go opening night

    like the, "ill never buy stern again, ooooohh shiny new toy with my fav theme, plops down money, fuck there is //insert complaint [code,build quality, toys etc]"

    #1826 1 year ago

    The Last Jedi was the first time I did not see a new Star Wars movie on opening day. I have not seen it yet. I am still going to like the franchise, but it is not the same as it used to be. I seriously doubt that I will go on opening night, or even at all for that matter.

    #1827 1 year ago

    Disney is making these movies just to make money just like the PotC movies.

    I wish they had a great vision and made a ton of movies like they are doing with Marvel: Avengers, Iron Man, Thor, CA, BP, Strange etc.. they are all great imo.

    This SW stuff is like the Hobbit moves like they say let’s make 3 films don’t care about how bad it is, people will spend money because it’s TH or SW.

    If they had given John Favru or someone like that control like they have with Kevin Feige (Marvel), it seems like they are a all being made by different people with different ideas, they change directors too often, like maybe that’s half the problem.

    I was never crazy with the idea of reviving Carrie Fisher for anything she was an old washed up lady. So she made some good movies 30-40 years ago. That was then this is now.

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    #1828 1 year ago
    Quoted from TigerLaw:

    I just don’t understand why Star Wars is the franchise they have taken over and decided to run into the dirt. Disney paid a bunch of money for the franchise but they just handed it over to these morons and are letting them run amok with their SJW agenda.
    Oh well, we all know Solo is going to totally bomb next week. I hope it stays below Deadpool, that would be freaking awesome.

    I know...why even leak that news about Lando anyway? What's the angle? If you want Lando to get jiggy with a space octopus, just do it. I mean they've fucked over every old character so why not.

    #1829 1 year ago
    Quoted from kvan99:

    I know...why even leak that news about Lando anyway? What's the angle? If you want Lando to get jiggy with a space octopus, just do it. I mean they've fucked over every old character so why not.

    They are just trying to bring in the LGBT crowd, look we care about you come see the movie. It's just marketing, I suspect it will be very subtle to non existent in the movie. I don't think Disney cares or has the courage to actually a put a character in the movie. Its going to be if you squint real hard it kinda looks like Lando might be into guys. It's just enough to piss of the fans and not enough to actually make any difference about equality. It's the way Disney half asses it and just fucks up all the characters that drives me nuts.

    #1830 1 year ago
    Quoted from rai:

    I mean ‘The last Jedi’, it was bad although the special effects were good.
    Can’t believe how badly they treated Po and was expecting Benito Del Toro to do a triple cross somehow.
    It just was very meh to me.

    I know, you think he would have been more alert to being double crossed while having 2 infinity stones in his possession. After pull shenanigans himself, he should have been more prepared for thanos.

    #1831 1 year ago

    The sad truth is all the money in the world cant buy stories with a clear vision. (Unlike the MU)
    It will take several failed attempts at expanding (or recycling) the SW universe to discover no one is invested in it.
    My jug of nostalgia is passed its expiration date.

    #1832 1 year ago

    They hinted at doing this with Sulu in the new Star Trek movies and George Takei put the kabash on that plan. He put out a statement that Sulu was not a gay character and it wouldn't be right to retroactively change his sexuality like that. Maybe Billy Dee Williams should chime in.

    There is another rumor about episode 9. Apparently Yoda's force ghost takes it up the ass from Obi-Wan while Luke blows him. I mean, you never did see any of them with women so it makes sense.

    #1833 1 year ago

    Luke's force ghost is then infused with enough miticholorians to come back to life and save the day.

    #1834 1 year ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Star Trek WAS the much better until JJ jacked it. New movies are complete garbage
    EDIT: Force Awakens was much better than any of the new STs

    I disagree, but that is OK. You are wrong but I won't fault you for it. ST and STTNG was great for what it was. The ST movies were ok but I feel only a ST fan would bother to see them. The new ST movies are great and I feel they will bring new people to ST. The Force Awakens was OK but it has lost the feel of the original 3 movies. Opinions may vary.

    #1835 1 year ago
    Quoted from vicjw66:

    They hinted at doing this with Sulu in the new Star Trek movies and George Takei put the kabash on that plan.

    Nope they did it, scene with Sulu walking off with his partner and a kid I think in one of the movies.

    #1836 1 year ago
    Quoted from zr11990:

    . The new ST movies are great and I feel they will bring new people to ST. The Force Awakens was OK but it has lost the feel of the original 3 movies. Opinions may vary.

    I feel you ZR but I'm not really interested in "how many new people" movies bring in. The SW prequels brought in millions of young pups eager for SW that turned into older idiots that think those movies aren't pure shit.

    #1837 1 year ago

    These guys just crack me up.

    #1838 1 year ago

    Considering how inflated Disney review scores are... at 71% Rotten Tomato's Han Solo must really suck.

    #1839 1 year ago
    Quoted from benheck:

    Considering how inflated Disney review scores are... at 71% Rotten Tomato's Han Solo must really suck

    I, surprisingly, don’t know of anyone who has made plans to go see it opening night. I’m not planning to catch it at all.

    #1840 1 year ago

    I plan on not seeing it ever, until I can do it for free where disney doesn't see a dime from me.

    Just by the trailer, I can tell Disney didn't take the time to even do the timeline correct. Han is what?...like 18 or 19 in this movie? In EP 4 he's like 25-27. So within 7 years the Falcon went from looking like a brand new showroom, to a grimy dingy mess everywhere? Please. In order for it to be filthy, he would have had to have gotten somewhat broken in to begin with. If disney can't even take the time for easy details like that. You know it's going to be a straight up full blown piece of-Shit.

    #1841 1 year ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    So within 7 years the Falcon went from looking like a brand new showroom, to a grimy dingy mess everywhere? Please. In order for it to be filthy,...

    So you're an expert on space grime now?

    #1842 1 year ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    So you're an expert on space grime now?

    I am an expert in good/shitty movies.

    You can tell disney took as much time with the script as they did for the other garbage they let out.

    #1843 1 year ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    You can tell disney took as much time with the script ...

    So now you've read the script?

    Look, just say you hate it, you don't need to act like you know what's happening in it to hate it.

    #1844 1 year ago

    ok, look at it like this. Remember how the falcon looked in EP4? Remember EP5? Remember EP6? During that timeline, you have crossed about 10 years. Maybe more. During that time. The falcon didn't get dirtier at all. Looks exactly the same as it did in EP4. So a longer period of time, and no change. So just by comparison to the originals, It's fawked just from that. Whether you are an expert in grime or not. If you don't even take the time to stay consistent with your timeline. You know the script is going to lack the things we have seen out of disney's SW universe. Lacking character development, Character chemistry, and actions inconsistent with established characters.

    #1845 1 year ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    ...During that timeline, you have crossed about 10 years. Maybe more. During that time. The falcon didn't get dirtier at all. ...

    This is not evidence of anything....it's actually pretty piss poor "logic"
    Remember how your car looked for 5 years where it was basically the same? And then in the 5th year you ran into a tree and it looked shittier?
    Maybe....and stay with me here...and 18 year old Han ends up kind of hot dogging his spaceship around and making it dirty.
    Maybe he, I don't know, get's into some adventures or maybe encounters some trouble smuggling for a living and cruising around the Kessel run etc.

    The point it, your argument is stupid. Much dumber than saying "this movie looks like shit and LJ was pure shit so no thanks.
    See...that's actually makes sense.

    #1846 1 year ago

    space is not dirty. My walls in my house don't get wiped down but once every 5 years, maybe more. The walls and ceiling do not get filthy like that.

    Just admit it. Disney's scripts and attention to detail are always piss poor when it comes to SW. We have seen some of the worst movies made under the Disney name.

    #1847 1 year ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    space is not dirty.

    Every single thing that ISN'T space is dirty dummy. You have seen the other movies right? Jungles, creatures, laser blasts, smuggling, neing inside a massive worm etc etc

    #1848 1 year ago

    that is true. But, you think every single inch of the interior is going to go from spotless to filthy in 7 years? I'm sorry, but my van and every van i've ever owned was at least 10-15 years old, and the ceiling and walls of the interior still look like new. Hell, even the carpet anywhere that's not the drivers seat looks like new.

    #1849 1 year ago
    Quoted from CaptainNeo:

    ...But, you think every single inch of the interior is going to go from spotless to filthy in 7 years?

    Chewbacca farts.

    #1850 1 year ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Chewbacca farts.

    thats probably the best way to describe Disney's SW universe. Should have been the name for The Last Jedi.

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