*SPOILERS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad and other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel talk *

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*SPOILERS* Star Wars: TLJ is really bad and other Star Wars/Disney/Marvel talk *


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    “Star Wars: The Last Jedi was...”

    • garbage, the worst of the main films 160 votes
      29%
    • decent, better than the prequels 214 votes
      39%
    • really good, on par with the originals 69 votes
      13%
    • great! one of the best 66 votes
      12%
    • who cares, star wars sucks 36 votes
      7%

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    #1751 7 months ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    SJW for the win!

    For the win? This edit is the biggest slap in the face to SJWs and I love it.

    #1752 7 months ago

    All I know is that I'm glad Stern based their new Star Wars pin off of the original trilogy then the new one and / or integrating it. Thank goodness Disney didn't force them to do that either.

    #1753 7 months ago

    The Last Jedi: Defeminized Fan Edit

    Ok flame suit on for the SJWs in the crowd. I’m not a misogynist in anyway but if you watch this and don’t agree that it makes the movie go from a 2 to 7.5 you’re Kathleen Kennedy.

    Watch the whole thing before you start bitching if you plan on crying about this. But the fact that there is so much agenda shoved down your throat in this movie that this opportunity even presented itself says something.

    Leia’s death scene done right.
    No porgs!
    No stupid humor!
    Practically no Rose!
    Casino scene gone!
    What a great movie!!!

    Same post twice just to carry it over to page 36. I wanna hear opinions on this and not have it lost because of the page break haha
    Watch it before it gets pulled!

    #1754 7 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    » YouTube video
    The Last Jedi: Defeminized Fan Edit
    Ok flame suit on for the SJWs in the crowd. I’m not a misogynist in anyway but if you watch this and don’t agree that it makes the movie go from a 2 to 7.5 you’re Kathleen Kennedy.
    Watch the whole thing before you start bitching if you plan on crying about this. But the fact that there is so much agenda shoved down your throat in this movie that this opportunity even presented itself says something.
    Leia’s death scene done right.
    No porgs!
    No stupid humor!
    Practically no Rose!
    Casino scene gone!
    What a great movie!!!
    Same post twice just to carry it over to page 36. I wanna hear opinions on this and not have it lost because of the page break haha
    Watch it before it gets pulled!

    Echo echo echo

    #1755 7 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    » YouTube video
    The Last Jedi: Defeminized Fan Edit
    Ok flame suit on for the SJWs in the crowd. I’m not a misogynist in anyway but if you watch this and don’t agree that it makes the movie go from a 2 to 7.5 you’re Kathleen Kennedy.
    Watch the whole thing before you start bitching if you plan on crying about this. But the fact that there is so much agenda shoved down your throat in this movie that this opportunity even presented itself says something.
    Leia’s death scene done right.
    No porgs!
    No stupid humor!
    Practically no Rose!
    Casino scene gone!
    What a great movie!!!
    Same post twice just to carry it over to page 36. I wanna hear opinions on this and not have it lost because of the page break haha
    Watch it before it gets pulled!

    Creative edit.

    No lame jokes. Luke’s not a bitch. He leaves with Ray on the Falcon. Leia dies in space. Snoke disappears. Poe does the hyperspace kamikaze. Luke not a dumb hologram, but gets taken out by the ATAT? That was awful haha. No dumbass broomsweeping force kids tho.

    Just shows you how pointless the whole casino/codebreaker subplot is. Waste of time, shitty writing, etc.

    2hr30m down to 45m. That says a lot.

    #1756 7 months ago
    Quoted from PanzerFreak:

    All I know is that I'm glad Stern based their new Star Wars pin off of the original trilogy then the new one and / or integrating it. Thank goodness Disney didn't force them to do that either.

    There was speculation that after Stern made last year's Star Wars pin based on the original trilogy that they would plan to make a future Star Wars pin based on the current trilogy after Episode 9 gets released. I would have to assume that idea is in serious jeopardy with the way things are going now after Episode 8.

    #1757 7 months ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    Leia flying around in space and not bloating up and dying was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
    Even dumber than the laser cannons having sound in the vacuum of space.....

    yes, yes it is. Least you know the laser blasts are just added for effect, because it's very boring with space battles being silent. Leia floating around like a cutout from a south park episode, just looks like shit and doesn't make sense as far as the story goes. So all around it's just an epic failure.

    #1758 7 months ago

    Not sure about the whole "SJW" thing, but that edit sure cut out a whole pantload of useless cruft. I knew it was too long, but not _that much_ too long.

    #1759 7 months ago

    Finally watched TLJ.

    If only it was simply wasting 2:30 of my life... but it's far worse than that.
    Watched the original trilogy as a kid. I remember I was so frustrated to know I would have to wait for decades for the other 6 episodes.

    And now... this.

    #1760 7 months ago
    Quoted from jlm33:

    Finally watched TLJ.
    If only it was simply wasting 2:30 of my life... but it's far worse than that.
    Watched the original trilogy as a kid. I remember I was so frustrated to know I would have to wait for decades for the other 6 episodes.
    And now... this.

    Did you sleep through the prequels? Wise choice if so, but whatever you do don’t go back and watch them now!

    #1761 7 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    » YouTube video
    The Last Jedi: Defeminized Fan Edit
    Ok flame suit on for the SJWs in the crowd. I’m not a misogynist in anyway but if you watch this and don’t agree that it makes the movie go from a 2 to 7.5 you’re Kathleen Kennedy.
    Watch the whole thing before you start bitching if you plan on crying about this. But the fact that there is so much agenda shoved down your throat in this movie that this opportunity even presented itself says something.
    Leia’s death scene done right.
    No porgs!
    No stupid humor!
    Practically no Rose!
    Casino scene gone!
    What a great movie!!!
    Same post twice just to carry it over to page 36. I wanna hear opinions on this and not have it lost because of the page break haha
    Watch it before it gets pulled!

    I'm not sure why it is titled like it is. I would post it on Facebook but I have always disliked the "SJW" or "feminist" critique of TLJ. It has plenty of horrible things about it besides any attempts (failed) to have strong female characters. Overall this cut reduces just about everyone's impact in the film besides Poe so I actually think the title of "defeminized" is a little off.

    Overall, I really liked it! I thought Luke's and Ren's interactions with Rey were much better. All of the stupid crap was cut out. Snoke escaping not only makes more sense for how powerful he is but also set's up a nice antagonism between he and Kylo. Also, it makes the red guards attacking them make a lot more sense. If Snoke were dead, it should be a "the king is dead, long live the king" situation. Leia's death was actually touching because of Carrie Fischer's death. I wasn't happy that Phasma and Luke still died, however. I suppose there probably wasn't a good way to use the available footage to have Luke live unless you keep his Force Projection and just don't have him die. I am also not thrilled that Poe died but I supposed it adds weight to the movie and didn't bother me that much. The ability to weaponize lightspeed is still an issue but oh well.

    For what was available, this edit is amazing. It is a bit rough in some of the cuts but that is expected. Bravo.

    #1762 7 months ago
    Quoted from fosaisu:

    Did you sleep through the prequels? Wise choice if so, but whatever you do don’t go back and watch them now!

    The prequels where a masterpiece compared to TLJ.

    #1763 7 months ago
    Quoted from master_of_chaos:

    The prequels where a masterpiece compared to TLJ.

    Don't let TLJ suckiness blind you from reality....the prequels are horrible. Even if they were "better" than TLJ, which amazingly could be argued either way, it wouldn't make them a masterpiece

    #1764 7 months ago

    The prequels had some annoying characters and bad dialogue. TLJ ruined Star Wars. It isn't even close.

    #1765 7 months ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Don't let TLJ suckiness blind you from reality....the prequels are horrible. Even if they were "better" than TLJ, which amazingly could be argued either way, it wouldn't make them a masterpiece

    i do . compared to the TLJ, the sequels didn´t make me be sick watching the original movies.
    TlJ DESTROYED any interest in Star Wars.
    For what reason should i ever watch any of the movies again?
    Knowing that Lukes destiny is to drink blue milk an fallling dead from a rock? Knowing that Leia is in deed Mary Poppins? Knowing that Lukes wohle battle to save people from the dark side results in trying to kill Kylo beacause it COULD be possible that he will turn to the dark side?

    i am not disappointed, i am angry, really angry. Disney stole/killed a lot of my life.
    I always was disapponted that Gerorge Lucas refused to produced EP 7-9. Now, its clear he knewed that it was impossible to gave the audience wath they want.

    EP7 was cool, because that was Star Wars. Even if it was a pimped and womanized remake of EP4/5.
    But EP8... ahhhhhrghh ... f*ck..it.
    Enough... i better play some games on DI ...

    #1766 7 months ago
    Quoted from master_of_chaos:

    . Disney stole/killed a lot of my life.
    I always was disapponted that Gerorge Lucas refused...

    Oh boy.

    It's a "Forest for the trees" situation here. I don't blame people for disagreeing with me, but I think this would be WORSE if Lucas had done it; because he sucks. TLJ is horrendous, but Force Awakens was a fine film, and roughly 12X better than any prequel.

    #1767 7 months ago

    I personally really liked both Episode 3 and TFA. I am easy to please. Give me any two of interesting characters, good plot or awesome action sequences and I'll love it. The OT had all three. The prequels and TFA had two. Rogue One had one, sort of. TLJ had zero.

    #1768 7 months ago

    I saw TFA at Easter & was disappointed. Not much going on, most of the flying was on a planet & it didn't have the Star Wars feel. I'll watch TLJ with trepidation.

    #1769 7 months ago
    Quoted from Topher5000:

    I saw TFA at Easter & was disappointed. Not much going on, most of the flying was on a planet & it didn't have the Star Wars feel. I'll watch TLJ with trepidation.

    If you didn't like TFA I wouldn't even watch TLJ... You'll go from disappointment to anger

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    #1770 7 months ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    If you didn't like TFA I wouldn't even watch TLJ... You'll go from disappointment to anger

    then anger to hate and hate to suffering!

    Path of the dark side it is

    #1771 7 months ago
    Quoted from Topher5000:

    I saw TFA at Easter & was disappointed. Not much going on, most of the flying was on a planet & it didn't have the Star Wars feel. I'll watch TLJ with trepidation.

    Oh Boy...

    If you did not like TFA then TLJ is REALLY gonna be a kick in the di*K...

    I LOVED TFA!!

    I even CRIED at the end when Luke got his light-saber BACK and the Star Wars STRINGS fired up...

    Sat there in the theater with chills and a TEAR running down my face.

    Luke was........ BACK!!!! Holy Shit!!

    Then TLJ happened.....

    Uggggg

    #1772 7 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    then anger to hate and hate to suffering!
    Path of the dark side it is

    So much more peaceful when you block those who cannot be reasoned with.

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    #1773 7 months ago

    At least I got a part in the new Solo Star Wars movie. I'll try to fix things up!

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    #1774 7 months ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    So much more peaceful when you block those who cannot be reasoned with.

    Quoted from master_of_chaos:

    The prequels where a masterpiece compared to TLJ.

    Quoted from TRAMD:

    I personally really liked both Episode 3 and TFA. ...

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    #1775 7 months ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    So much more peaceful when you block those who cannot be reasoned with.

    Can’t be reasoned with?
    Da’ fuck are you taking about???
    I’m quoting Yoda you douche nozzle

    Edit: if you are reading this for the first time, keep scrolling. I realize I’m a dick in about 3 posts.

    #1776 7 months ago

    He was not talking about you.

    #1777 7 months ago
    Quoted from Darscot:

    He was not talking about you.

    Then why is there a screenshot of my comment with the quote in it saying user blocked?
    I’m confused!

    #1778 7 months ago

    God damn it I get it now. He sees me but not the comment of the person I quoted

    #1779 7 months ago

    Correction... gdonovan is indeed NOT a douche nozzle! I am

    #1780 7 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    Correction... gdonovan is indeed NOT a douche nozzle! I am

    Now that’s high level self deprecation...right on!

    #1781 7 months ago

    You must watch this.

    #1782 7 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    Correction... gdonovan is indeed NOT a douche nozzle! I am

    All good and I do have my moments to be sure.

    To get back on track, I post this video (spoilers).

    The guy mentions rumors about various characters.. I'm not keen on rumors unless they are better sourced but they do fit in with what has come out of the last two movies. We will see when the movie drops. I would not be the least bit surprised if Han and Lando's backstory is sullied in some manner just for the hell of it.

    Look how Poe, Han and Luke have been treated in the last 2 outings.

    FYI the villain in the Solo movie does have a name the alludes to something, your interpretation may vary.

    So to not spoil the movie for some folks I have not posted who the villain is or the name.

    #1783 7 months ago

    Mike Zeroh on YouTube is awesome to watch if you’re into spoilers or news. He gets a lot of things out there from a bunch of sources he has. I love watching him although a lot of parts in R1 and TLJ were definitely spoiled for me because of the info he gets.

    #1784 7 months ago
    Quoted from Deaconblooze:

    You must watch this.
    » YouTube video

    Lol! That's hilarious, love the admiral Ackbar scene the best.

    #1785 7 months ago

    It’s always so hard to tell if these script leaks are legit this early in the game BUT this actually excites me a bit. And would totally undo what Rian did to Luke. Thoughts?

    #1786 7 months ago
    Quoted from mrm_4:

    It’s always so hard to tell if these script leaks are legit this early in the game BUT this actually excites me a bit. And would totally undo what Rian did to Luke. Thoughts?

    Would be great but it’s not true. Heck, I wish those early allegedly leaked scripts for TLJ were true. A couple of them were strikingly awesome compared to the garbage we received.

    #1787 7 months ago

    Decided I won't give my Time Capsule Rose Tico toys to my neice for another ten years or so. She's such an Uber brat she'd probably rip them right out of the package and ruin the nice kitchen they'll one day buy here.

    #1788 7 months ago

    OT: https://nofilmschool.com/2015/01/atropa-low-budget-sci-fi-short-cant-afford-miss

    Studio Canal picked this up for a series....not sure how many episodes are planned.

    #1789 7 months ago
    Quoted from spfxted:

    At least I got a part in the new Solo Star Wars movie. I'll try to fix things up!

    It's dead jim.

    #1790 7 months ago

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    #1792 7 months ago

    That site is one of those click bait sites filled with annoying pop-up ads so I didn't go past the first page.

    #1793 7 months ago
    Quoted from TRAMD:

    That site is one of those click bait sites filled with annoying pop-up ads so I didn't go past the first page.

    Oh sorry, here is the same story, in a different format:

    http://www.indiewire.com/2018/03/solo-actor-phil-lord-chris-miller-werent-prepared-star-wars-alden-ehrenreich-not-good-1201943599/

    #1795 7 months ago
    Quoted from InfiniteLives:

    plus, they signed that dude to 3 movies as Han. Yikes

    Smart of Disney to lock him in. The worst outcome as far as staffing goes is they don’t lock him in and the movie is a huge hit and then they have to go back and negotiate with him to be in the sequels.

    I doubt they paid him much more than a respectable “hold fee” (to keep his schedule open) for what is effectively an option to do two additional movies with him in the role. If they pick up the option he plays the part, if they don’t do the movies he got what he made for movie one and a schedule hold fee.

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    #1796 6 months ago

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/solo_a_star_wars_story

    Currently at 72%, from what I have been reading is the movie is very uneven with a few good spots and some clunkers.

    Time will tell.

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    #1797 6 months ago
    Quoted from gdonovan:

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/solo_a_star_wars_story
    Currently at 72%, from what I have been reading is the movie is very uneven with a few good spots and some clunkers.
    Time will tell.

    One of the key take aways from the current reviews is something to the effect of “enjoyable but clearly trying to sell something.”

    Of the newer films, as far as keeping in the spirit of the originals, “Rogue One”
    has come the closest. It was a cool Star Wars flick that seemingly came out of nowhere and had a purpose, good pacing, decent characters, great adversaries, cool effects and music and almost no “Luke tosses the light saber over his shoulder then drinks alien tit juice” stupid moments.

    #1798 6 months ago

    I'd agree the last 30 minutes of Rogue One was the "most Star Warsy Star Wars" since the 80s.

    But everything before that battle is crap. Filler, lame characters, stupid motivations and a plot servicing "why Jyn Erso is the main character" instead of her character servicing the plot.

    The prequels are still better than this Disney rubbish.

    #1799 6 months ago

    Just got around to watching Jedi on blu-ray which shows how low the series has fallen in my eyes it’s the first SW film I had not seen at the theatre.

    Of the last three I think Rogue was the best but (IMO) could have let the main characters escape so they could expand their stories in future films as I thought the main characters of that were great.

    This last film messed up should have let Leia die and Luke live. What the hell are they supposed to do with Carrie Fisher no longer you know alive? Leia could have done some heroic Ben Kenobi act to allow the rebellion to escape whatnot.

    I’m not sure why Luke dies at the end? Maybe he’ll be some ghost in the next movie but it was all quite a mess and I don’t really care about it anymore. At least Marvel is still making great movies.

    #1800 6 months ago
    Quoted from rai:

    Just got around to watching Jedi on blu-ray which shows how low the series has fallen in my eyes...

    God i know. Whenever we watch New hope & then Empire I just skip Jedi

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