Quoted from John1210:
Ahhh that old chestnut lol.... the fanboys whining about the movie. Sorry buddy that critics of the critcs of tlj argument doesnt cut it.
This is just a straight up badly written badly told story. Some of the ideas were cool... but the way it was told stunk.
I’m actually interested to know what scenes or how many scenes of this movie you thought were so “cool” that it essentially made the whole movie “cool”? I found quite a few scenes cool. Didn’t make the movie as a whole any better though.
I'll humor you here for a second but before that I just want to point out that you're now over 20 posts deep in this thread, spending a lot of time on something you supposedly hate. If it's so weak, why don't you move on and spend your time more productively? Movies are art. There's no "right" or "wrong" answer here. Some people liked it, some people didn't. So what? You're so concerned with forcing your opinion down everybody else's throat that you can't let it go. As I originally said, some of you have over-invested yourselves in the thing so now you're massively let down. Not everybody sees it like you or has the same taste or opinions as you do. Why can't you let that go?
So, what was "cool" about the movie to me?
The opening sequence: I liked the bombers and the direction Poe's character is taking.
Kylo Ren's character was more "real" than past villains and this movie continued to flesh him out. Same thing goes for Luke's character. The lines between good and evil are blurring a lot more in these newer movies and I kind of dig that.
I LIKE how certain things were never explained. For example, who's Snoke? Like the Emperor, he's just some mysterious guy, then he gets killed. I see a lot of people bitching about that but that was one of the main reasons I didn't like the Prequels very much. I thought they explained too much. The Emperor was actually less interesting to me after the prequels.
I LIKED how Rey is a natural bad-ass and just picks up the force naturally. Instead of being like "that's impossible" I was like, "who is this and why is she so much more advanced?" Why are some people just naturally good at pinball, or piano? I don't know, but it gives me something to think about.
I liked how the concept of the "force" was handled in general.
Ray actually almost, sort of, turning Kylo Ren was a surprising, in a good way. I never expected Snoke to die like that and it made we wonder "what's going to happen next".
The light-speed suicide assault was great. Sweet idea.
The Benicio Del Toro character was great.
Luke using the force to make it appear he was in the battle was great. I didn't see that coming.
I like how there were very subtle tie ins to Empire Strikes Back. I think this one did a better job at that than the last one, where the links/nods to the original Star Wars were a lot more direct.
Overall, there were more good parts in it for me than bad. There were plenty of things I could complain about too but they weren't the end of the world and nothing I'm going to spend post after post harping on about.
Argue with that all you want but this is not a matter of objective truth.
Frankly, nothing done in Star Wars after Return of the Jedi has had close to the same impact on me as the originals and I've got no delusions that this will ever change. I don't like to watch the "specialized" versions of the original movies now that I've got access to the theatrical cuts. The prequels were terrible in my opinion. I think these later movies are better but they're not anything close to the originals for me. Part of that is the originals were great movies, and part of that is my age and the state of the world at the time those movies came out.
You're completely free to disagree with any or all of what I said and it doesn't make you any more right or me any more wrong.