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Spinner Question


By Krupps4

3 months ago



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#1 3 months ago

I have a Close Encounters pin. It has a spinner that I’ve never been able to really rip. I read Vid’s recommendations for spinner adjustments. Bought the lube/oil he recommended and did my best to get it to spin as freely as possible. It spins a lot better, but now I noticed it doesn’t register points for every rotation. It’s like it can’t keep up. My question is - Should it? I don’t know what expectations should be for that era pin. If it should, any thoughts on what adjustments should be made? Thank you in advance.

#2 3 months ago

How close is the switch gapped? If it is not opening very far, then when it spins fast the computer will not see it fully open and still think it is closed. Also Gottlieb spinners of this era are pretty terrible so you do have to temper your expectations a bit.

#3 3 months ago

as xenon75 mentions, you may have to temper your expectations.
The marketing for System 80 games (System 1 successor) was that the game would never miss a switch closure.
I take that to mean that missing a switch closure, especially something like a fast spinner, is possible in System 1 games.
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#4 3 months ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

How close is the switch gapped? If it is not opening very far, then when it spins fast the computer will not see it fully open and still think it is closed. Also Gottlieb spinners of this era are pretty terrible so you do have to temper your expectations a bit.

This is very helpful. Thank you! My expectations are tempered. They always have been with that pin. Haha. I think the switch gap is pretty small. I’ll make an adjustment and see if it helps. Thanks again!

#5 3 months ago

You could try an experiment.
I've never done this, but you could replicate the Bally solution to this by soldering a .05uf capacitor across the switch.
Solder the legs of the capacitor to the solder tabs for the switch.

I have no idea if this will help or not, but it won't hurt.
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Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
http://www.ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

#6 3 months ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

You could try an experiment.
I've never done this, but you could replicate the Bally solution to this by soldering a .05uf capacitor across the switch.
Solder the legs of the capacitor to the solder tabs for the switch.
I have no idea if this will help or not, but it won't hurt.
--
Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
http://www.ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact ... for board repairs
http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

Thanks for the tip! I will look into it.

#7 3 months ago

Unfortunately, CE3K uses a plastic spinner which is designed poorly. No matter what you do I don’t think you’ll get decent rips out of it, at least nowhere near what you get from metal spinners of the era.
Since the link between the spinner and switch wraps around the spinner, it can be a point of high friction. See if you can remove it and polish the metal smooth and clean out the groove in the spinner. I haven’t tried this so I don’t know if this can be done without damaging it. You may have already done all you can do for this type of spinner.

#8 3 months ago

Only solution I've seen but not tried is to drill out and add weight to the spinners. Gottleib spinners are pretty sad, such awesome pins tho!

#9 3 months ago

I wouldnt try unless I had a replacement in hand

#11 3 months ago

This seems to be a really great tip and makes some sense to me. I’ll look into it. As dothedoo suggested I did clean out the groove out the link between the switch and spinner and added some lubricant. It doesn’t really rip but it is better and based on what you guys are saying that sounds like as much as I can expect.

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