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Space Shuttle crew members' club - prepare for liftoff!

By E_N_3

10 years ago


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#4041 1 year ago

Thanks in advance for a little help with sound buzzing. I get a pretty loud hum as the pin cycles through the lights in between games. Since I need to pull the Sys 9 board and replace a power transistor for a pop bumper, I was going to replace several of the radial capacitors on the lower right of the board (C2,5,7,24,53). I know old caps can be one source of the problem.

But I've since discovered that the culprit for about 95% of the buzzing. It occurs when the pop bumper lights illuminate through the sequence. They had been replace by a previous owner with LED's (I think BriteCaps EVO). If I pull these lights out, it eliminates the 95% of the buzzing or humming.

So my question is, does this change my approach? Would different lights here fix the issue? Maybe someone can chime in that has these lights. I'll probably still go ahead and replace the caps, but might put that off since I don't have those on hand yet if the lights are the culprit.

Also if I unplug the sound board (Swemmer 147-4-19) the buzzing stops. Not sure if that adds anything, but thought I'd mention that also since that's where I started my troubleshooting.

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#4045 1 year ago
Quoted from Charles_Kline:

Take out the buzz causing LEDs.

Is there an LED replacement that's better or is this typical of this style? Definitely could just take them out, but wondering if they are specifically the problem or just emphasizing another issue like the caps. I've gone through the grounds pretty well. The rest of lights are LED's and I get very little buzz but it's just these that seem to be the issue. If there's a better choice that folks have good luck with, I'll switch. Thanks, still learning.

#4047 1 year ago
Quoted from interconnect:

I put red LEDs in my pop bumpers and it looks really nice; I don't think you really need anything more than that! They were from Pinball Life (premium ghostbuster, bayonet, red). No buzzing either.

Thanks. I'm gonna replace the caps this weekend since I'll have the board out. If the buzzing is still there, I definitely check those out and likely get some.

#4050 1 year ago
Quoted from Apinjunkie:

Try tightening all of the screws on your main board, it sounds like you've got shuttle buzz.

Thanks, yep, that's one of the first things I did after reading a little. And I really tried check to make sure everything was grounding good. Did find the braided ground cable from the bottom cabinet was no longer connected to the backing, so not all the grounds were common. Fixed that but didn't help the buzzing. I'll double check that stuff again though.

#4052 1 year ago
Quoted from MoSeS_1592:

Those multi led super brite pop bumper boards always cause buzzing in my past experience. The lighting in my SS always causes some level of hum, much less with led because it draws much less current. My personal thought is resistance in the old dirty wire harness connectors. When I first got my space shuttle the speaker hum was awful and would oscillate with the attract mode lighting sequence. After cleaning and tightening all the wire harnesses it seemed to get rid of the hum almost completely. After about 6 months to a year the hum returned somewhat but at a much more tolerable level. Cleaning the pins and connectors with contact cleaner and tightening the connectors on the wire harnesses seem to help dramatically. Monkeying around tightening and loosening and lifting the soundboard from the back box had no effect whatsoever

Thanks. Good info. I'll clean the contacts when I lift the board for my transistor repair. Yep, I fooled around tightening and lifting the sound board also to no avail. Honestly its not noticeable while playing, only when the game is sitting idle that you really hear it.

So what's the secret to removing the connectors from the Sys 9 board???? I can't get these things off. I tried inserting a little piece of plastic I made to lift the clips, but I can't get these things to budge. I'm afraid of wrecking the clips. I can see a few are already broken here and there. What's the technique or tool to use? I wasn't expecting this to slow me down.

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#4054 1 year ago
Quoted from interconnect:

Same thing I dealt with when I first got mine. Later I realized that you can just wiggle them out… left to right. Just be careful you don’t do it too much and bend the pins. Also, it’s a good idea to re-flow the solder on all the pins/connectors at the edges of the board. Over time, you can get cold (broken) solder joints on the pins from pulling the connectors on and off, especially the pins at the very ends of the connector headers.

Thanks, that got it. It was an SOB but eventually got it moving. I was a little worried to keep at it at first since I wasn't sure the clips would release. A very tiny flat head under one side to give it a nudge helped.

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