Space Shuttle crew members' club - prepare for liftoff!


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#1501 43 days ago
Quoted from dr_spidey:

Can someone post a pic of the wiring for the diagnostic 3-button. One of my wires came undone.
Thanks
Rob

Looks like you are missing one of the green/brown wires that connect to the high score reset terminal below the diode and diagonal from the terminal where the white wire is connected. I would also solder those loose stands on the yellow wire so they don't short on something.

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#1502 43 days ago
Quoted from RCA1:

I'm In!
Just picked up a fairly rough but fully working and playing Shuttle!
Playfield is pretty borked, so I just ordered the new hardtop overlay.
Going to be interesting seeing how that comes out.

Can you post a link to the overlay you are using; I am curious to check them out.

#1503 42 days ago
Quoted from pinheadpierre:

Looks like you are missing one of the green/brown wires that connect to the high score reset terminal below the diode and diagonal from the terminal where the white wire is connected. I would also solder those loose stands on the yellow wire so they don't short on something.

Thanks

Just to be certain, since your pic is hard to see. My loose Green/Brown wire attaches to the far right white connector. And connects to the bottom right connector. The same one that already has a green/brown wire attached to it?

#1504 42 days ago
Quoted from E_N_3:

Can you post a link to the overlay you are using; I am curious to check them out.

This one:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/hardtop-playfield-new-product-announcement-poll-included

#1505 42 days ago
Quoted from dr_spidey:

Thanks
Just to be certain, since your pic is hard to see. My loose Green/Brown wire attaches to the far right white connector. And connects to the bottom right connector. The same one that already has a green/brown wire attached to it?

Sometimes describing this stuff can create more confusion so I pulled my switch bank to take better pictures from various angles. Let me know if this clears things up or not.

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#1506 42 days ago

Awesome. Thanks
Looks like the two green/brown wires are soldered together to the top left (or bottow right depending on which way you hold it)

#1507 42 days ago

OK now I'm 99% there. I thought I had everything working on my game but now I noticed the L/H kicker doesn't make any sounds nor score a point. It does kick the ball as expected though. Any suggestions? I'll have to see what pin/wire/switch is associated with it. Quick look under the play and didn't notice any broken wires, maybe one of the pins I changed out in that one connector is the issue, not sure? I thought it was working before though, SOOOO close to being done!

Jason

#1508 39 days ago

Acquired another astronaut for my ever-growing autograph collection on my plastics. Today's addition - Japanese astronaut Soichi Noguchi, who flew aboard Discovery on STS-114, the first mission after the Columbia accident. I like the little Japanese flag he drew with it!

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#1509 39 days ago
Quoted from SkyKing2301:

Acquired another astronaut for my ever-growing autograph collection on my plastics. Today's addition - Japanese astronaut Soichi Noguchi, who flew aboard Discovery on STS-114, the first mission after the Columbia accident. I like the little Japanese flag he drew with it!

That is perfect, wish I still lived in Daytona Beach to get those autographs for my game. Loved watching the night launches of the shuttle. Very cool. Lit up the whole horizon.

#1510 39 days ago
Quoted from SkyKing2301:

Acquired another astronaut for my ever-growing autograph collection on my plastics. Today's addition - Japanese astronaut Soichi Noguchi, who flew aboard Discovery on STS-114, the first mission after the Columbia accident. I like the little Japanese flag he drew with it!

Way cool. How many more ya got to go?

#1511 38 days ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

Way cool. How many more ya got to go?

As many more as I can fit! Looks like I could fit a few on the large plastic from under/behind the shuttle yet, I'll probably pull that one next.

I'm up to nine so far, btw:
Doug Hurley, STS-127, -135
Bob Cabana, STS-41, -53, -65, -88
Mike Massimino, STS-109, -125
Andy Allen, STS-46, -62, -75
Robert Behnken, STS-123, -130
Stan Love, STS-122
Rick Searfoss, STS-58, -76, -90
Tony Antonelli, STS-119, -132
Soichi Noguchi, STS-114

#1512 38 days ago
Quoted from SkyKing2301:

As many more as I can fit! Looks like I could fit a few on the large plastic from under/behind the shuttle yet, I'll probably pull that one next.
I'm up to nine so far, btw:
Doug Hurley, STS-127, -135
Bob Cabana, STS-41, -53, -65, -88
Mike Massimino, STS-109, -125
Andy Allen, STS-46, -62, -75
Robert Behnken, STS-123, -130
Stan Love, STS-122
Rick Searfoss, STS-58, -76, -90
Tony Antonelli, STS-119, -132
Soichi Noguchi, STS-114

That's really neat, but no women yet I see, they must not visit the cape very often I guess. It's just insane that some people think NASA is fake. You could take them up and they would still probably say it was fake.

#1513 38 days ago
Quoted from MustangPaul:

That's really neat, but no women yet I see, they must not visit the cape very often I guess.

Well, the first consideration here is the overwhelmingly-male number of astronauts -- I haven't verified the exact figures, but it's in the neighborhood of ~300 men and ~50 women flew aboard the shuttle. So the probability of running into one of the women is significantly less.

Another consideration is whether I'll know in advance I'm going to run into them! I don't keep the plastics here at my desk -- obviously, I keep them at home, installed in the machine. I recall running into Nicole Stott a few months back -- I hadn't known she was going to be there. Oh well. Eventually maybe I'll get a few.

Quoted from MustangPaul:

It's just insane that some people think NASA is fake. You could take them up and they would still probably say it was fake.

Don't even get me started on this. I recently had a long conversation with a Flat Earther. (The conversation was only long because I couldn't leave where I was posted, and at least the guy was polite and respectful, so civilized conversation was possible.) I simply can't wrap my head around such blatant ignorance of scientific fact. It's an impossible debate, because they reject everything spaceflight-related as "faked", and ignore basic scientific principles.

#1514 38 days ago
Quoted from SkyKing2301:

Well, the first consideration here is the overwhelmingly-male number of astronauts -- I haven't verified the exact figures, but it's in the neighborhood of ~300 men and ~50 women flew aboard the shuttle. So the probability of running into one of the women is significantly less.
Another consideration is whether I'll know in advance I'm going to run into them! I don't keep the plastics here at my desk -- obviously, I keep them at home, installed in the machine. I recall running into Nicole Stott a few months back -- I hadn't known she was going to be there. Oh well. Eventually maybe I'll get a few.

Don't even get me started on this. I recently had a long conversation with a Flat Earther. (The conversation was only long because I couldn't leave where I was posted, and at least the guy was polite and respectful, so civilized conversation was possible.) I simply can't wrap my head around such blatant ignorance of scientific fact. It's an impossible debate, because they reject everything spaceflight-related as "faked", and ignore basic scientific principles.

I didn't realize there were that many total. WOW

Isn't it just crazy especially in this day and age. I had to work with one of these people for about a year, it was horrible and the other things he believed in were just mind blowing. He really belonged in a rubber room.

#1515 33 days ago

It's not that they believe the earth is flat it's that it consumes their being.they must constantly remind you of all the lies you're being told as they angrily spout off some YouTube facts and seem to not be able to go a day without discussing it.

#1516 33 days ago

My shuttle came with an extra mpu board that seems to have been used as a donor for components. Physically it's in nice shape. Is there anything on these boards component wise that would make them unrepairable? As in unobtainable chips? It looks like I can replace everything that's missing for about $15.

#1517 31 days ago
Quoted from polyacanthus:

My shuttle came with an extra mpu board that seems to have been used as a donor for components. Physically it's in nice shape. Is there anything on these boards component wise that would make them unrepairable? As in unobtainable chips? It looks like I can replace everything that's missing for about $15.

I don't think so. Not that I can recall, anyway. Understanding the logic behind the logic can be unobtainable sometimes though!

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#1518 23 days ago

I'm getting ready to order a bunch of LEDs. Do I need non-ghosting for the playfield insert lights? Any other advice? Thanks

#1519 22 days ago
Quoted from dr_spidey:

I'm getting ready to order a bunch of LEDs. Do I need non-ghosting for the playfield insert lights? Any other advice? Thanks

Yes you do, otherwise you'll get a slight flicker at times. I also put some in the backbox where it says player shoot again, etc.

#1520 22 days ago

And if you want to put in LED flashers, I love them, you'll need to removed the warming resistors on the circuit board at the flashers as well. I did this to both under the play field as well as on the back box for the rocket blast.

#1521 22 days ago

Cool. Thanks

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#1522 11 days ago

I have a new hardtop overlay from Outside Edge. I have the playfield stripped and ready to be sanded. Now I want a second opinion before I go for it. I realize this playfield is not as bad as many. The wear is mostly around the inserts, bumpers, USA at the top, and the ramp drop location. There is a lot of chipping especially in the upper mid playfield in the black. There is some bad planking in areas and the clearcoat in general is just so cracked and yellowed. I have done playfield touchups before but it seems like to do this one properly we're talking pretty much a complete repaint.

So what do you guys think, sand it off and hardtop it or leave it as is?

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#1523 10 days ago
Quoted from polyacanthus:

So what do you guys think, sand it off and hardtop it or leave it as is?

Tough call.
Just put the Hardtop on mine (and it came out great), but the playfield was a total loss.
I could see either way with yours. I am not a touchup expert, but looks to me like spot touchup would be possible.
That playfield looks better than most originals I've seen.
If you do use the Hardtop, you only NEED to sand the inserts, not the rest of it.

#1525 10 days ago

Sand it, sand it now!

#1526 10 days ago
Quoted from polyacanthus:

I have a new hardtop overlay from Outside Edge. I have the playfield stripped and ready to be sanded. Now I want a second opinion before I go for it. I realize this playfield is not as bad as many. The wear is mostly around the inserts, bumpers, USA at the top, and the ramp drop location. There is a lot of chipping especially in the upper mid playfield in the black. There is some bad planking in areas and the clearcoat in general is just so cracked and yellowed. I have done playfield touchups before but it seems like to do this one properly we're talking pretty much a complete repaint.
So what do you guys think, sand it off and hardtop it or leave it as is?

I'm with RCA, I've seen worse, but yours as is would take more work to make it look like what you would have with the hardtop.

Unless you plan on finding a more blown out playfield, go ahead and sand it and put the hardtop down.

I mentioned this in the other thread but you may want to outline your inserts in black, it would have helped on mine to hide any inconsistencies in where the artwork didn't match.

#1527 10 days ago

Just sand the inserts. That way you can use the hard top while preserving the possibility of actual restoration in the future.

#1528 10 days ago

Thanks for the input. I'm ​going to go for it. If this wasn't such a common machine maybe I wouldn't. I peeled back some of the protective film on the overlay to compare color and you can really see how yellowed it is. Blech! Also noticed the overlay is missing some artwork and some holes. Oops! I guess that art is hidden anyway, I hope this is the only place.

For those that have installed them already, how do they play? Like a fresh clearcoat or different?

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#1529 9 days ago
Quoted from polyacanthus:

Thanks for the input. I'm ​going to go for it. If this wasn't such a common machine maybe I wouldn't. I peeled back some of the protective film on the overlay to compare color and you can really see how yellowed it is. Blech! Also noticed the overlay is missing some artwork and some holes. Oops! I guess that art is hidden anyway, I hope this is the only place.
For those that have installed them already, how do they play? Like a fresh clearcoat or different?

If you mean that it is missing screw holes for topside pieces, that is actually desirable in clear areas since the original playfields will all vary slightly from one another with regard to screw positioning. Better to be able to drill your own homes to perfectly align with existing holes in the pf in clear areas. And yes, you can really see how much the original acrylic lacquer has yellowed over the years!

#1530 9 days ago
Quoted from polyacanthus:

Thanks for the input. I'm ​going to go for it. If this wasn't such a common machine maybe I wouldn't. I peeled back some of the protective film on the overlay to compare color and you can really see how yellowed it is. Blech! Also noticed the overlay is missing some artwork and some holes. Oops! I guess that art is hidden anyway, I hope this is the only place.
For those that have installed them already, how do they play? Like a fresh clearcoat or different?

The original playfield on mine had been cleared over really bad touchup (actually more of a blackout repaint). It looked like hell but played very nice and very fast.
The hardtop might play a tiny bit less fast, but it's very nice. Still need to tweak the pop bumpers, but it plays very well. I have not waxed the hardtop, which is also possible. I don't think I will, because I don't really want it lightning fast.

#1531 9 days ago
Quoted from RCA1:

The original playfield on mine had been cleared over really bad touchup (actually more of a blackout repaint). It looked like hell but played very nice and very fast.
The hardtop might play a tiny bit less fast, but it's very nice. Still need to tweak the pop bumpers, but it plays very well. I have not waxed the hardtop, which is also possible. I don't think I will, because I don't really want it lightning fast.

Speed is a side benefit of wax. The main purpose of wax is reduction of friction to reduce scratches and wear. I can't believe the the hardtop would be so resistant to the wear and tear of a high velocity 1-inch(ish) steel ball that it would not need protection. I would wax it.

#1532 9 days ago

Anybody know where I can pick up a Space Shuttle ramp?

#1533 9 days ago
Quoted from pinheadpierre:

If you mean that it is missing screw holes for topside pieces, that is actually desirable in clear areas since the original playfields will all vary slightly from one another with regard to screw positioning. Better to be able to drill your own homes to perfectly align with existing holes in the pf in clear areas. And yes, you can really see how much the original acrylic lacquer has yellowed over the years!

I meant the screw holes for the bumper bodies. I'm​ away from home but I think one hole for one of the bumpers was drilled and the other five holes were not (as shown). Also missing all the holes for the right side rail. Not a problem for me, just saying. In fact I kind of wish there was a craftsman edition with no holes drilled for the wireforms so I could drill them exactly and not have the oversized holes showing.

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