Quoted from rolf_martin_062:Hi Sea_Wolf
post-35, post-38 --- I am somewhat lost - the "original problem (motor runs endlessly and the 1-2- and 3-4-Reset-Relay endlessy pulse)" - has the "original problem" dissapeared ? Do You have one or more problems when starting a new game ?
The Swinging-Target motor runs on 110VAC, has not a fuse on its own, its hooked-in at primary 10Amp fuse --- Danger !
The Spinning-Target (lane on the left, upwards) is delicate --- the the two halves of the plate (spinning) are weighted - one half is heavier so at rest this half is near the playfield surface. A little rod goes down through the playfield - the rod is hooked-on on a leaf switch --- lift the playfield and try manually.
What is the problem You would like to look at (by now) ? Greetings Rolf
Hi Rolf.
I still have the original problem and have possibly created a couple of new ones. For reference sake, i’ll Start with what the machine was like when I brought it home and what I have tinkered with and what it is currently doing.
When I first started the game up the score reels began to reset and Player 1 and player 4 reels reset perfectly and stopped but the Player 2 and 3 reels kept spinning (Player 2 10,000 point reel and the Player 3 10 Point reel). After turning the power off and back on, they then reset to Zero and stopped and the ball return kicker kicked the ball to the shooting lane, although the kicker sounded weak and it took 4 kicks to get it done. I played a couple of games and everything on the playfield seem to work like they are supposed to, including the Swinging Target in the middle. Then I tried to play another game and when I hit the start button, the 2 score reels that I had problems with before, started doing the same thing as before. They kept spinning. I stopped and read where someone on another thread mentioned that the switches on those 2 reels might be gapped too close causing them to keep running. I probably shouldn’t have but I gently adjusted the 2 switches outward so there was more of a gap and after doing so those 2 reels reset to Zero on the next startup just like they should but that’s when the score motor kept running and the 2 relays (1-2 player reset and 3-4 player reset) kept pulsing nonstop. From there I gently cleaned some switches on the cabinet floor that were possibly involved. Such as the Outhole relay switches, a few score motor switches that were pointed out in a schematic above and on the bonus relay. That’s probably where I added more problems. After that I manually stepped up a couple of the score reels with the power off by pushing the plunger on the coils so I could observe how those switches operate. After doing that I started a game up and everything reset like it is supposed to and no more running score motor or backbox relays. But when I played a ball I noticed now that the Swinging Target in the middle wasn’t moving, the spinner on the left lit up prematurely as did the Extra Ball light at the top. These are the newest problems I’m afraid I created myself,possibly when I cleaned the switches. Also, when the game did reset properly, the ball return kickout to the shooting lane is still struggling to do its job and I checked for obstruction and there is none. That’s where everything stands right now. I can and will take pictures when I get home if that’s needed. And unfortunately Rolf, I haven’t been able to bring any of your well thought out advice to light due to my ineptitude and impatience. Let me know what you think, and thanks again for your help.