Quoted from jwilson:Yeah, that long format LCD is exactly the sort of thing custom guys are looking for.
but isn't that the form factor that randy said would be too costly to produce?
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Quoted from j_m_:but isn't that the form factor that randy said would be too costly to produce?
The screen costs about $110 USD shipped from China. Its not the highest quality though. It looks better in person than what was captured on that video but its no match for modern LCD screens that are perfectly view-able from any angle. This screen is fine, but nothing great. Working with the screen isn't as straight forward as I had hoped. For anyone else considering using this for your projects, know that the driver board is 1280x720 only. The screen itself is 1280x390. So your image output from the OS will be squished and look bad by default. Linux and MPF have display driver options you can force pixel scaling and overscan to make the display look correct.
Other than the wrong LCD driver, there is an OSD menu that displays HDMI INPUT when you power on the screen. This annoys me to no end. I don't have a solution for this as its built into the display board. Right now it feels like a hack to me. Its working, but by no means does it feel like a professional solution.
San Clemente, CA
Pretty sure that’s what they’re calling a “stretched bar LCD” now. They are physically cut down from a larger commercial LCD screen and available in oddball sizes depending on the source screen and how they were able to make the cut. The panel drivers still expect the same data formatting as the original screen.
When I looked into it a few years ago, prices were about 3-4x an uncut full size screen but maybe they are less expensive now.
The HDMI input message is probably more a function of the HDMI to LVDS converter board rather than the LCD panel itself. You might be able to try a different converter.
Quoted from lurch:Hey tell us where you got that display. Please. Looks better than the colordmd.
Its not as sharp nor does it have as good of viewing angles as a colordmd LCD screen. I got it from China
Toronto, ON
Quoted from Time:Other than the wrong LCD driver, there is an OSD menu that displays HDMI INPUT when you power on the screen. This annoys me to no end.
I wouldn’t feel too bad - both the theatre and phone screens on Dialed In do this.
Quoted from jwilson:I wouldn’t feel too bad - both the theatre and phone screens on Dialed In do this.
Ewwww.
That actually been something I've been wanting to checkout. Need to talk to some people with modern LCD games. I noticed Huduni showed a bunch of bios boot text on cold start. Not a fan. I'm curious what the "pros" are all doing with regards to this. Its definitely not something I want in what I'd call a finished product. I never want anyone to see what's behind the curtain. Unless of course they come here and read about it. 
A totally clean boot in under 5 seconds is my goal. I've been playing with hardware and Linux distros to see what combo might work.
the crystal ball in WoZ displays the 4D systems boot up screen as well (I believe that the book in TH also does)
Quoted from Time:Ewwww.
That actually been something I've been wanting to checkout. Need to talk to some people with modern LCD games. I noticed Huduni showed a bunch of bios boot text on cold start. Not a fan. I'm curious what the "pros" are all doing with regards to this. Its definitely not something I want in what I'd call a finished product. I never want anyone to see what's behind the curtain. Unless of course they come here and read about it.
A totally clean boot in under 5 seconds is my goal. I've been playing with hardware and Linux distros to see what combo might work.
Totally possible with powerful hardware such as an Intel NuC. My NuC i5 boots into MPF in roughly 5s and it still runs stock Lubuntu untuned. I also bought an up board (same as TNA) but that takes a bit longer (also untuned).
Quoted from Time:The screen costs about $110 USD shipped from China.
Hmmm... Cant seem to find it on Alibaba. Found pleny of others. There are options if you want to purchase a 1000 of them. Lol. Any suggestions to find this display?
Quoted from lurch:Hmmm... Cant seem to find it on Alibaba. Found pleny of others. There are options if you want to purchase a 1000 of them. Lol. Any suggestions to find this display?
The word "China" in his post links directly to it.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:The word "China" in his post links directly to it.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/VGA-LCD-controller-board-RT2270-14-9inch-1280-390-LTA149B780F-LCD-screen/32266352370.html
Good call.... Forgot about aliexpress! Thank you sir.
Quoted from seawolf:Thought you guys might enjoy these
Never played one.
Quoted from Wolfmarsh:I think that's the only one.
That would explain it. 
Quoted from Time:Its not as sharp nor does it have as good of viewing angles as a colordmd LCD screen. I got it from China
Probably a TN panel. Cheapest, crappiest panel. Poor color reproduction, and terrible off-angle viewing, but very fast refreshes gray to gray. An IPS, SuperPLS, AHVA or PVA panel would give you much better off angle viewing and color reproduction, but not sure if they come in cut-down sizes.
2 weeks later
Time came by and was working on TLS002 while I was working on TLS001. He brought the computer and displays. So awesome.
This is the playfield for TLS002 but it's actually the same playfield but we're working on it along side the current cleared playfield to make small alterations and additions. We'll be making some changes like, colors, features and corrections.
Thanks for the updates. Looking fantastic.
Nostalgia to the max for me. I loved The Last Starfighter as a kid. They are apparently re-making it, but somehow I can’t imagine the new movie will have the same impact as the original, at least not for me.
I can’t wait to see the mini arcade cab added to the playfield.
Keep up the great work!
This project is just awesome on every level. Thank you for sharing the journey. So inspiring!
Aaron
FAST Pinball
Hah. Thanks guys. Very kind. I'm very happy with this team. We have a great set of guys. Getting ready to crank out cabinet for TLS002 so it can be worked on by Time . I know it's hard to right code and test without the machine present.
Very excited about our new build and the direction we are heading. I feel this version of the whitewood will play exactly like we all imagined, and will be the final revision.
So proud to be a member of this team of amazing and talented people. I dream this actually gets licensed so all can enjoy the Last Starfighter!
Quoted from cleland:I dream this actually gets licensed so all can enjoy the Last Starfighter!
I wonder what the license holder would change and how much $$$$ they would want.
Quoted from MustangPaul:I wonder what the license holder would change and how much $$$$ they would want.
Film is owned by universal (who is owned by GE/Comcast). It isn't Disney money, but I bet it would still be a pretty penny unless you could commit to at least several hundred of them.
SpaceGhost forgot to post photos of the mech production line. The mechs for #1 and #2 are all wired and ready to go. The girly wire color code provided by John
Quoted from MustangPaul:I wonder what the license holder would change and how much $$$$ they would want.
Read at article a while back how ownership of this is complex, between universal, the original writer, etc. which is why attempts to make a remake have stalled so far, but sounded like they are getting closer to figuring it out.
Oh man. I would have shaved if I knew I was going to be a model.... and I would have certainly sucked in the gut.
Quoted from SpaceGhost:j_m_ This is the shop.... on a clean day.
Wow. That's one of my dreams right there.
Quoted from SpaceGhost:j_m_ This is the shop.... on a clean day.
What does the shop make?
Quoted from MustangPaul:I wonder what the license holder would change and how much $$$$ they would want.
Supposedly the Last Starfighter license holders have been extremely difficult, passing on NUMEROUS offers of significant cash for products and reboot/remakes, including one from Seth Rogen.
Quoted from PinMonk:Supposedly the Last Starfighter license holders have been extremely difficult, passing on NUMEROUS offers of significant cash for products and reboot/remakes, including one from Seth Rogen.
Bummer, I guess we'll only be making six games then. Too bad, I really feel like this could be a production pin.
Quoted from MustangPaul:What does the shop make?
It's a prop house that makes anything anyone can imagine. I've held Thor's hammer, Captain America's shield, and numerous rubber weapons.
Quoted from cleland:It's a prop house that makes anything anyone can imagine.
Cool
Quoted from cleland:Bummer, I guess we'll only be making six games then. Too bad, I really feel like this could be a production pin.
A> Never say never, just because everyone else failed, you're not destined to necessarily. Maybe the writer is a pinhead.
B> Knockoffs are legal (aka First Star Pilot, Last Starwarrior, etc)
I would like to see more than 6, preferably one on the locations I help with, at least.
Quoted from PinMonk:A> Never say never, just because everyone else failed, you're not destined to necessarily. Maybe the writer is a pinhead.
B> Knockoffs are legal (aka First Star Pilot, Last Starwarrior, etc)
I would like to see more than 6, preferably one on the locations I help with, at least.
I would love to see these get made also but I always have to wonder if it is because we are working on it or if it is actually really cool.
Quoted from s1500:That ball flinger on the ramp is quite innovative. Never seen anything like that. The silverball becomes the solenoid.
I'm really looking forward to that also. Can't wait to move over to working on that part. We're working on wiring right now to get some workable wiring harnesses made. Probably a couple weeks out from a newer playable version at this point.
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