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So we have decided! After a long discussion with the wife, she made some great points. WOZ is out of production, and while there is rumor there will be another run, there is also rumor that the "new" version will be a lesser version with "problem mechanicals" removed. I don't want a stripped down version, I want the full version in the wild today. Even if that turns out not to be true, it's still an unknown on when WOZ will actually be available again.

So - we are buying both a GotG premium and a Star Trek premium. I placed my GotG Premium order with ZMeny at Flip N Out, because Zach is awesome and super easy to deal with. And I'm getting the ST Premium through Marco/Stern via the MGC show deal in April. This way, we play both, and if one starts to outshine the other, we can sell one and use that money towards a WOZ.

On that note: for WOZ, we will be buying a WOZ still 100%. But not until we have solid details on when and what is actually available. Worst case I'll buy a 75th or RR the next time they make some of those. I plan to buy that one from Chris at Kingpin who is also awesome. Chris goes out of his way to help his customers, and that is something I can attest to personally!

Thanks to everyone who posted, this honestly was super helpful, even though so much of this is subjective. People also provide some unique points.

Have played all 3. WOZ and MBr quite a bit. GotG played the least since it was on location.

Truth be told I’d get GOTG pro, which is over $2k less than the other two. But for me I’d rather pay for what I’ll enjoy vs something cheaper.

Having played both extensively I’d say POTC is just as deep and more fun, but not quite as challenging as WOZ by a small margin. But if you have short ball times on POTC the game isn’t much fun.

If you don’t mind me asking, any idea what gets boring about GOTG for you? What do you find yourself playing instead?

I actually have ST premium on my wishlist, however I have heard the code is incomplete? And no sign of when the next release will be.

I don’t think I can add it as a 3rd pin, due to theme. But fourth pin yes.

Thanks for all the feedback. This is helping. Going to decide this weekend.

I think I have decided against GotG as I am concerned over the long term. Played on location again this afternoon a good 20+ games and the repetitive parts are not so “fun” or varied enough I think for long term. Played more MBr and while also repetitive, the toys and differences make it more fun.

So I think it’s down to WOZ or MBr. The WOZ would be whatever new or next production run they make which sounds like a likely April delivery. MBr SE is of course available sooner.

Agreed it’s a lot of back and forth in my own head lol. Going to play a bunch of WOZ and MB again soon, maybe even tonight. Hopefully that helps. The poll numbers are interesting!

Monkey wrench into the works. My wife and son played GotG and liked it. They are also interested in Star Trek premium.

First world problems

For me personally I am leaning towards WOZ. My kids LOVE our JJP POTC and they like that it’s challenging and deep. My son got to his first wizard mode today and was thrilled.

Watching it now!

On another note: is it just me or is that far right scoop shot on GOTG overly difficult to hit... 40 plays on location and I still can’t hit it. And I’m pretty decent at pinball.

It’s nice to have so many good choices.

Going to play an ST pro on location this afternoon.

Played star trek. Really enjoyed it. I get what some of you were saying now about star trek. It shoots incredibly well. The geometry is great, rewarding, and approachable. That warp shot is really cool. If I had the money I think I'd buy WOZ and Star Trek LOL. But, on the same hand, for the price of one WOZ I could buy a pro ST and pro GotG, which is something I'm literally considering.

I'm really glad I started this thread, or I wouldn't have even considered ST, and now having played it, I see why it's so fun.

I have two pins but could easily fit 6 so I have room to grow.

JJP POTC is very approachable. You can have fun even if you don’t know what’s going on. It has six different ways to get Multibal (and they can stack) so there is plenty of crazy fun to be had. It’s one of the best pins ever made. I would recommend it to anyone.

After playing star trek yesterday, my wife is seriously considering us buying both WOZ and ST lol! Or GotG and ST. I should update the poll, but I think the feedback I've gotten from you all has been much more valuable than the poll. A lot of very helpful things, including some aspects I had not thought of. Heck I wasn't even considering ST until several of you mentioned it!

Thank you for the feedback. I was hoping with AFM and POTC that the GotG/ST combo would be ok. My kids like GotG, but I don't think they'd like the ST theme as much. Seriously considering WOZ and ST prem.

I am going to see if I can convince the wife to get WOZ and ST Premium. I have a chance to take advantage of some great pricing on the ST due to the MGC here in Milwaukee coming in April. If not, it's going to be either WOZ or both ST and GOTG. I could always end up selling GOTG later if need be.

So we have decided! After a long discussion with the wife, she made some great points. WOZ is out of production, and while there is rumor there will be another run, there is also rumor that the "new" version will be a lesser version with "problem mechanicals" removed. I don't want a stripped down version, I want the full version in the wild today. Even if that turns out not to be true, it's still an unknown on when WOZ will actually be available again.

So - we are buying both a GotG premium and a Star Trek premium. I placed my GotG Premium order with ZMeny at Flip N Out, because Zach is awesome and super easy to deal with. And I'm getting the ST Premium through Marco/Stern via the MGC show deal in April. This way, we play both, and if one starts to outshine the other, we can sell one and use that money towards a WOZ.

On that note: for WOZ, we will be buying a WOZ still 100%. But not until we have solid details on when and what is actually available. Worst case I'll buy a 75th or RR the next time they make some of those. I plan to buy that one from Chris at Kingpin who is also awesome. Chris goes out of his way to help his customers, and that is something I can attest to personally!

Thanks to everyone who posted, this honestly was super helpful, even though so much of this is subjective. People also provide some unique points.

Yea the light shows on pinballs alone are worth the upgrade to me. Lighting is such a huge part of how a pinball "feels" and I think that is often overlooked.

Yes as was said. Since every insert bulb is RGB they can display millions of colors. On the pro, only a couple select bulbs are RBG and the rest are white with a single color insert. So the light effects and changes to the playfield are drastically different when the bulbs can be millions of colors.

Sorry didn't mean it as a "why didn't you read it" I meant it as a "like RandomKG said".

Yep! And eventually a WOZ too. Parties here will be fun. Good thing I have an escalera on the way though!

See here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/midwest-gaming-classic-2019#post-4815735

Oh yes we will be buying one, but not until we know what is actually going to be available. YBR or whatever rumors. Soon as Chris at Kingpin knows what is available and when he is going to let me know so I can order one.

In the meantime, Zach shipped my GotG yesterday so hopefully get that sometime next week. Now all I need is my escalera shipped and with any luck also arrive next week so I can actually get GotG into my basement.