Sunbury, PA
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:Williams Add-A-Ball.
Price is right for $150.00 start bid with no reserve.
ebay.com link » Williams Granada Pinball Machine
Ken
Winning bid:US $150.00
[ 1 bid ] 
(Topic ID: 56266)
Linked Games
Spitfire
Williams, 1954-
Trade Winds
Williams, 1962
Topic Gallery
Quoted from stashyboy:This one really is an EM classic!
ebay.com link » 1958 Williams Gusher Electro Mechanical Em Woodrail Flipper Pinball Machine 157
Too bad the backglass has some issues near the top, otherwise, would be worthy of a restoration. has anyone played one? Starting price seems a bit high, only 12 hours to go on this one....
I don't think the price is out of line. It needs a little attention but is one of the most collectible Williams woodrails.
Quoted from o-din:He's got a few other machines and a couple are listed with free shipping
ebay.com link » 1959 Gottlieb Hi Diver Pinball Machine 8 Free Shipping
ebay.com link » 1964 Gottlieb World Fair Pinball Machine Arcade Free Shipping
Is that a fair price for a Worlds Fair???? I have one and if I sold it I would have no idea what to price it at. Any input?
Quoted from practicalsteve:I have one and if I sold it I would have no idea what to price it at. Any input?
$200. Do you take Paypal? 
Quoted from o-din:$200. Do you take Paypal?
Ha! Should have figured that was going to be the response.
Quoted from practicalsteve:Is that a fair price for a Worlds Fair???? I have one and if I sold it I would have no idea what to price it at. Any input?
2014 MPC price guide - $800 in very good condition working
Eric's 9th edition price guide - $500, $925, $1400
Also check bostonpinball.biz - go to ebay sales summary and scroll down to your game
Location affects price too........
Quoted from hoov:2014 MPC price guide - $800 in very good condition working
Eric's 9th edition price guide - $500, $925, $1400Also check bostonpinball.biz - go to ebay sales summary and scroll down to your game
Location affects price too........
Thank you very much!
Schleswig
Quoted from hoov:Location affects price too........
Tell me about it. For Germany you can switch out the dollar sign with a euro one and might still go up.
Seeing a super nice Harlem Globetrotters go for $500 at the Expo feels like a punch in the kidneys. 
Quoted from swampfire:This is tempting, if I could get it for $150. New glass and plastics are available...
ebay.com link » Gottlieb Royal Flush Pinball Machine
Good luck in your bidding.
Quoted from MikeO:Good luck in your bidding.
Already outbid, but that's OK. I'm not sure I want to know what a "slavepet" is. 
Quoted from o-din:This one is so nice, they figured we would be happy to see just a picture of a box.
ebay.com link » Gottlieb Restored Lady Robin Hood 1948
Also I hope it looks better than how they log jam typed their description. 
This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing. 
Quoted from Pin-it:Also I hope it looks better than how they log jam typed their description.
This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing.
Or because "the item is no longer available" . . . which is usually a deflective statement whose true meaning is that some private deal was worked out OFF-eBay, even though flagrantly contrary to the User Agreement both Seller and registered Buyer have pledged to obey.
Quoted from AlexF:Ooh, Dragonette. Drool…
ebay.com link » Gottlieb Dragonette Pinball Machine
Ooh $3K. Sigh....
Quoted from jrpinball:Ooh $3K. Sigh....
and few pics and even less info about machine......
I guess I was just excited to see a Dragonette.
Quoted from AlexF:Yeah, 0 feedback too. I guess I was just excited to see a Dragonette.
Come visit. 
Quoted from AlexF:I know but if you could get it for $2500 your probably did alright. Averages $2826 on Boston pinball. Aside from Mermaid, it may be the most collectible Gottlieb wood rail.
You may be right. "4 Belles" with the same playfield layout is tougher to find, but "Dragonette" is a better looking game IMHO.
Hmm. Just thinking about what you said. Yeah, "Mermaid" is the holy grail woodrail for sure. I'm wondering what would be next and what would be the top 10. You're probably right about "Dragonette" being #2. You might consider "Daisy May" for that spot though; it has to be at least #3.
"Hawaiian Beauty", "Bank a Ball", "Marble Queen", "Green Pastures", "Queen of Hearts", and.... I'm sure I'm leaving out a prominent collectable Gottlieb woodrail or two, would surely make the top 10 list.
Quoted from jrpinball:You may be right. "4 Belles" with the same playfield layout is tougher to find, but "Dragonette" is a better looking game IMHO.
How does it play? Kind of looks like it plays itself with all the trap holes.
Trap hole games are more fun than one might imagine at first glance. Granted, the gameplay is rather short, but the strategy can be addicting. I played a very nice Gottlieb "Chinatown" at the York show. It was plenty entertaining, despite being a trap hole game with no other way to lose the ball.
2014 Mr Pinball Price Guide has the top 5 50's games in this order:
Mermaid
Knock Out
Dragonette
Minstrel Man
Niagra
Erics 9th Edition Pinball Price Guide lists these top 10 woodrails:
Mermaid
Buffalo Bill
Knock Out
Dragoneete
Ministrel Man
Nags
Sluggin champ Deluxe
Niagra
Hot-Rods
4-Belles
These lists are based upon the editor's opinion of values of each game.......
Quoted from hoov:2014 Mr Pinball Price Guide has the top 5 50's games in this order:
Mermaid
Knock Out
Dragonette
Minstrel Man
Niagra
Erics 9th Edition Pinball Price Guide lists these top 10 woodrails:
Mermaid
Buffalo Bill
Knock Out
Dragoneete
Ministrel Man
Nags
Sluggin champ Deluxe
Niagra
Hot-Rods
4-Belles
These lists are based upon the editors opinion of values of each game.......
I'm not sure about this, and could be wrong, but I thought I'd seen a Minstrel Man turning up periodically on the L.A. CL. If so, it could well have been the same one, which never sold.
I know I said the last price reduction was the last but I purchased a Jukebox (a sweet jukebox) so I need the space. United "Mexico" Flipperless woodrail Gorgeous, only $399 (OBO)
ebay.com link: itm
Make an offer. It really is surprisingly a lot of fun.
IMG_3944.JPGQuoted from John_in_NC:I know I said the last price reduction was the last but I purchased a Jukebox (a sweet jukebox) so I need the space. United "Mexico" Flipperless woodrail Gorgeous, only $399 (OBO)
ebay.com link
Make an offer. It really is surprisingly a lot of fun.IMG_3944.JPG 208 KB
Do you deliver? GLWS
Quoted from btw75:Do you deliver? GLWS
Within 60 miles, sure. 50 cents a mile
I just don't know enough about the earlier pin history, and therefore these questions.
I've seen the manual ball load on Slick Chick (and others -- Central Park ?), and even an earlier manual ball load on one that I think was not electric, so it would not even be classed as an EM. The pins that had multiple trap holes -- as mentioned recently in this thread -- sound as if they likely were pre-electric. I'm wondering how the game play proceeded, with the flipperless or trap hole games ? Pitch of the pf and gravity must have been an important factor. Was there a sheet of plywood or something that you moved at game end, to free balls from the trap holes ?
Someone mentioned a smaller ramp that appeared much earlier in a game than I had realized.
They must have come up with some rather ingenious design touches, in the days before EMs.
[Not referring to the "Mexico" re pre-electric, obviously. I see the lights.]
Quoted from AlexF:I guess Knockout would be a top 10 woodrail but you see that one for sale quite a bit. I am not sure where Niagra would fall in the list but I would love one.
I forgot about "Niagara" (which everyone always misspells).
In my opinion, the top 10 woodrails are as follows:
I'm only listing Gottlieb woodrails for this particular discussion.
1. "Mermaid"
2. "Daisy May"
3. "Dragonette"
4. "Lady Luck"
5. "Knock-Out"
6. "Queen of Hearts"
7. "Hawaiian Beauty"
8. "Marble Queen"
9. "Niagara"
10."Minstrel Man"
This is pretty much off the top of my head based on the buzz I hear and have been hearing the last few years. I guess I'm basing my list on several factors, including scarcity and value.
I've probably neglected a major game or two. I'd love to see your list/ranking.
"4-Belles" may be in that list too, but it's very similar to "Dragonette". It's a very short production game though. There's just too many great woodrails. I recently acquired a "Frontiersman" which could be on the top 10 list as well.
Quoted from Heretic_9:I just don't know enough about the earlier pin history, and therefore these questions.
I've seen the manual ball load on Slick Chick (and others -- Central Park ?), and even an earlier manual ball load on one that I think was not electric, so it would not even be classed as an EM. The pins that had multiple trap holes -- as mentioned recently in this thread -- sound as if they likely were pre-electric. I'm wondering how the game play proceeded, with the flipperless or trap hole games ? Pitch of the pf and gravity must have been an important factor. Was there a sheet of plywood or something that you moved at game end, to free balls from the trap holes ?
Someone mentioned a smaller ramp that appeared much earlier in a game than I had realized.
They must have come up with some rather ingenious design touches, in the days before EMs.
[Not referring to the "Mexico" re pre-electric, obviously. I see the lights.]
A lot of early games did have a "shutter" that would slide out of the way to drop the balls. In those earlier years, it was easy since you had a push slide coin mech. When they went to coin drop, they had to add a shutter motor to slide it out of the way.
BTW, the manual ball lift also allowed you to play up to 5 ball multi-ball if you wanted.
Quoted from jrpinball:I forgot about "Niagara" (which everyone always misspells).
In my opinion, the top 10 woodrails are as follows:
I'm only listing Gottlieb woodrails for this particular discussion.
1. "Mermaid"
2. "Daisy May"
3. "Dragonette"
4. "Lady Luck"
5. "Knock-Out"
6. "Queen of Hearts"
7. "Hawaiian Beauty"
8. "Marble Queen"
9. "Niagara"
10."Minstrel Man"
This is pretty much off the top of my head based on the buzz I hear and have been hearing the last few years. I guess I'm basing my list on several factors, including scarcity and value.
I've probably neglected a major game or two. I'd love to see your list/ranking.
"4-Belles" may be in that list too, but it's very similar to "Dragonette". It's a very short production game though. There's just too many great woodrails. I recently acquired a "Frontiersman" which could be on the top 10 list as well.
Derby Day has to be up there! (since its the only one I have! )
Quoted from Heretic_9:Or because "the item is no longer available" . . . which is usually a deflective statement whose true meaning is that some private deal was worked out OFF-eBay, even though flagrantly contrary to the User Agreement both Seller and registered Buyer have pledged to obey.
Ooooooooh...The eBay police might come get you. We "pledged" to obey.'
Who gives a shit?
Quoted from jrpinball:I forgot about "Niagara" (which everyone always misspells).
In my opinion, the top 10 woodrails are as follows:
I'm only listing Gottlieb woodrails for this particular discussion.
1. "Mermaid"
2. "Daisy May"
3. "Dragonette"
4. "Lady Luck"
5. "Knock-Out"
6. "Queen of Hearts"
7. "Hawaiian Beauty"
8. "Marble Queen"
9. "Niagara"
10."Minstrel Man"
This is pretty much off the top of my head based on the buzz I hear and have been hearing the last few years. I guess I'm basing my list on several factors, including scarcity and value.
I've probably neglected a major game or two. I'd love to see your list/ranking.
"4-Belles" may be in that list too, but it's very similar to "Dragonette". It's a very short production game though. There's just too many great woodrails. I recently acquired a "Frontiersman" which could be on the top 10 list as well.
Would add Mystic Marvel and from what I hear Glamor 1950. Only 300 made, and think they get north of $10k - so I was told! Could be way off base.
Quoted from DropTarget:I'm liking this one.....A great title at a really good price. Seems to be in nice shape
ebay.com link » Star Explorer Pinball Machine
Quoted from DropTarget:I'm liking this one.....A great title at a really good price. Seems to be in nice shape
ebay.com link » Star Explorer Pinball Machine
Go for it!!
Quoted from EMsInKC:Ooooooooh...The eBay police might come get you. We "pledged" to obey.'
Who gives a shit?
I would think Grand Slam deserves to be on any top 10 woodrail list.
Minstrel Man has interesting (although certainly not politically correct) artwork, but is it anywhere near a top 10 machine for playability?
Quoted from Shapeshifter:In my opinion, the top 10 woodrails are as follows:
I'm only listing Gottlieb woodrails for this particular discussion.
1. "Mermaid"
2. "Daisy May"
3. "Dragonette"
4. "Lady Luck"
5. "Knock-Out"
6. "Queen of Hearts"
7. "Hawaiian Beauty"
8. "Marble Queen"
9. "Niagara"
10."Minstrel Man"
This is pretty much off the top of my head based on the buzz I hear and have been hearing the last few years. I guess I'm basing my list on several factors, including scarcity and value.
It will be interesting to see what the final bid does for this one.......has the title popularity peaked?
ebay.com link: Gottlieb Atlantis Pinball Machine
Quoted from stashyboy:It will be interesting to see what the final bid does for this one.......has the title popularity peaked?
ebay.com link » Gottlieb Atlantis Pinball Machine
Well he's trying to sell it for $2100 here on Pinside: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-atlantis-fs-or-trade
Quoted from Spanishsilver:And may already be sold for an offer I cant refuse. I keep you posted
Wow! That makes my fully restored game with the same condition field/glass worth at least twice that! 
Quoted from Spanishsilver:And may already be sold for an offer I cant refuse. I keep you posted
It's gone. Too bad I'm broke now or I would have bought it from you.
Ken
Promoted items from Pinside Marketplace and Pinside Shops!
Reply
Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.
Hey there! Welcome to Pinside!
Donate to PinsideGreat to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!
