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Some nice looking EM classics just came up on CL

By o-din

11 years ago


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#5377 9 years ago

Not sure if this is kosher, listing my own (craigslist for sale) games here
or if I should list them in the for sale sub topic.

I have a CCoin Gold Record (working) that i am selling ($450)
and a CCoin Sound Stage (non-working) ($225) that I will be selling also,
here in Bakersfield CA (Craigslist),
if anyone is interested.
bakersfield.craigslist.org link
bakersfield.craigslist.org link

Neither game is "collector" quality, but are in decent shape and complete pins.
Also will be selling a BLY Space Time soon.
Package deals considered.

cheers pinballtom
More games to come out of storage later
to be sold,
to thin the herd.

#5382 9 years ago

I will be moving in about 2-6 months
so need to sell 100+ pins
so i do not have to move them,
hope to move to Oregon when i retire.
What stays and what is going is not yet decided.
Duplicates are likely to go first,
that's another 50-60 games not listed on my pinside list.
It is going to be hard to let go of anything,
as i am a bit of a pack rat pinball hoarder.
duh!
For whatever reason i get too attached to anything i acquire.
But common sense is starting to gain ground, to let somethings go
to another good home.

I will slowly but surely posting more games in future,
here on pinside and on rpg and craigslist and maybe epay.

#5438 9 years ago

PINSIDE Special
Mention you saw my craigslist for sale ads
thru pinside.com
and get 33% off
CCoin Gold Record will now be $300
CCoin Sound Stage reduced to $150

Quoted from pinwiztom:

I have a CCoin Gold Record (working) that i am selling ($450)
and a CCoin Sound Stage (non-working) ($225) that I will be selling also,
here in Bakersfield CA (Craigslist),
if anyone is interested.
bakersfield.craigslist.org link bakersfield.craigslist.org link

Neither game is "collector" quality, but are in decent shape and complete pins.
Also will be selling a BLY Space Time soon.
Package deals considered.

cheers pinballtom
More games to come out of storage later
to be sold,
to thin the herd.

3 months later
#6907 9 years ago
Quoted from Pin-it:

Chicago coin - $5000 Hollywood pricing

They must have valley fever or suffering from heat stroke, thinking they will even get 10% of their asking price.

8 months later
#11509 8 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Wms Space Ship for $750 in CA:
visalia.craigslist.org link
Wow!

If i was still living in Bakersfield Ca, I'd be all over this,
even though i already have a SpaceShip,
this one looks pretty decent but have to see it close up.
O-Din do you have one yet?

#11543 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Plenty of Dave Cristensen "mustache man" machines available though-
losangeles.craigslist.org link

that is for sure
Funny but i could have sworn
that i bought one of my BLY Monte Carlo's
from FAC on Vermont Ave about 10 yrs ago.

Monte Carlo is one of my sentimental favorites,
as it was the pin i played the most back in high school and jr college
at the small arcade newstand candy store
in my home town (Gilroy) back in the mid 70s

1 week later
#11636 8 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

My first car was a hand me down

My 1st was a hand me down also, a 1965 Mercury Park Lane, (lime/gold with black landau top)
Now that was a boat of a car
probably could have fit any pin in the trunk or back seat (with head attached).

1 week later
#11656 8 years ago

watch out
the JPOP topic thread
is about to overtake the EM on CL thread
for most posts

#11658 8 years ago
Quoted from goldenboy232:

Williams Palooka for $900. Seattle area.

Already have one, but donated all my WMS reverse Wedgeheads to the PPM.
Tempted to get this one just for the nice lockdown bar end caps.

#11673 8 years ago

keep them coming

1 week later
#11703 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

two player Preview pinball machine.

Too bad the BG is not in better shape
as some of the showgirls look to be vanished in a blur of tan touch up.
And the CL asking price is a little steep, even if I was still living in B-Town,
i probably would not be inquiring about this listing.

Looking back I am
Trying to see what demographic that GTB was going for here back in the day,
as the theme really does not do much for me.
Yes you got some leggy showgirls but i have seen better "Parker girls"

#11711 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I am going to get it.

At $100
it is totally worth it
good luck

#11718 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I am really intrigued with this machine. The layout is way different than anything from that time.

Right you are. Very unique PF layout.
The Flippers are probably single impulse type with no EOS,
so when you hit the flipper button, they just swat once and fall back
into the rest position.
You might be able to rebuild then into modern style flippers.
What is going to impact this game's play appeal the most is the ability or ease
in which one can get the ball back to the top of the playfield, if that is
at all possible.
Bet the slingshots (if there are any) and Thumper bumpers and nudging will
do more of that, than the actual flippers.
Also intrigued with the bottom center part of the PF
with the bulls eye roll over button that spots certain letters/numbers and features.
What is the 5 o'clock position insert stating about counters?

#11778 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

It is now working 100% but I still need to work on cleaning up the playfield and cabinet. I have put a bunch of games on it and I like it as much as just about any other machine I have ever played. It more than any other takes me back to another place and time. It has an aura about it like it was in some nightclub or bar, not some bowling alley.
The layout is unique and there are so many different ways to score and those can change depending on what else you have going on. Hats off to Harry Williams. He was some kind of genius.

Looking forward to seeing some clips of video gameplay,
maybe even a tutorial type video of how things are scored.
The top 4 lanes with KOHoles at bottom of each lane,
does the score change from lane to lane as some have more switches than others?
Does the game have any slingshots?
Can you really flip the ball back to the top half?
And have you/can you make the special lane on top right side
shooting the lane from the bottom up,
or is it only made by chance on skill plunger shot
or karom trickle down (top to bottom)?
Maybe need to start new post thread just for Pinky.

#11804 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Bob Hope vintage pinball machine

BackGlass reminds me a little of Roy Parker's last game
Mayfair

#11805 8 years ago

double post mistake

#11813 8 years ago
Quoted from smailskid:

Williams Friendship 7 in Upper Michigan

this is a good deal and great game,
played it a lot last weekend at the Tacoma NW pinball show.
Layout is similar to WMS Jungle a bit.

1 week later
#11869 8 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Trail Drive is one I was always kind of interested in too. The playfield is so sparse though I wonder if it's any fun?

it is better than El Toro

#11890 8 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

Frontiersman

what a score
congrats

#11919 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

After we were done playing last night I spent quite a while looking at Frontiersman and I kept saying to myself it doesn't get much better than this, and in reallity it doesn't. The gameplay is as outstanding as the art package which IMO is one of the best of all time.

This game is a true woodrail and all about what they represented and could be.
Excerpt below taken from ipdb.org rating site:
Frontiersman is one of several excellent Gottlieb multi-special, gobble-hole games of the mid-1950's. Its "align" or "advance" strategy is a typically brilliant Neyens' tease. Hitting the A-B-C or D targets or rollovers advance that row of lights toward the center hole. Advancing any letter 4-steps (Purple, Yellow, Green, Red) lights the gobble-hole to score 1 replay. Aligning any 4 spots of the same color (the same number of advances of all 4 letters) lights the gobble hole to score - Purple:3 replays, Yellow:4 replays, Green:5 replays, Red:10 replays!
There's a reason these games developed enormous followings "in the day"! They were challenging, exciting, loaded with "came close, try again" appeal and you got 5 balls for a nickel.

In addition to the above award structure, everytime you aligned all 4 letters to the same color (any of the 4 positions) you lit one "flaming arrow" on the backglass. Every 5 flaming arrows scored light one number along the left edge of the backglass and lighting 5 numbers (25 total flaming arrows) awards 5 replays. This holdover feature is a nice "Crackerjack extra" from the hand of Master Designer Neyens! In addition, replays can be won for score with typical levels set by 50's operators at 5 million, 5-5, 6 million, 6-5 and 7 million.

Satirical artwork by Leroy Parker, brilliant design by Wayne Neyens, a blatant parody of Walt Disney's hugely successful Davy Crockett TV dramas, exciting target-shooting challenges for flipper aficianados and double-digit relay possibilities make Frontiersman one of the finest games from pinball's Golden Age in my opinion.

#11939 8 years ago
Quoted from dasvis:

Tom -
Do you have one of these in your vast collection?

Nope, but have played it at several PPE and PAGG shows in past or was it
at Sam Harvey's home collection.
The game play reviewed was cut&pasted from Gordo on ipdb.

Only woodrails i own
are WMS Golden Bells and Gusher
and a flipperless GTB Bordertown

#11949 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

There may be some game play videos coming.

looking forward to some video of pinky gameplay

#11982 8 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

Was sorely tempted by that, just to get the North Star.

And he is willing to take a Star Pool or Pat Hand.
I already have a Expressway
and if i was still in SoCal, I would be driving to Vegas
with my Star Pool and some other generic 70s pin to trade for the Northstar,
for sure.

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#12116 8 years ago

this video reminds me of a camping retreat my college dorm went on about some 37 yrs ago.

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#12119 8 years ago
Quoted from dasvis:

Which one is you Tom?

I am the one taking the photos.

But here is a shot of me and 3 of my buds,
from back in circa 78-79, trying to look cool
outside my duplex on 36th St .
Probably taken just after a few $0.35 beers on tap
at the Red Carpet (dive bar) in Newport Beach CA,
and playing few games on the FireBall EM pin they had there.
You will have to decide which one is me.

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#12128 8 years ago

No fair
Glen and Reinnie have both known me for 10+ yrs.

The bottom right, Stevie D, (Belushi lookalike) sadly,
is no longer with us, as he passed about 10yrs ago.
He is also in the 2 pic montage from the dorm camp-out, posted previously,
he is the one gazing at either of the two gals Robin or Ginny, and seated between
the shirtless Crutchfield and Gibbons-Fly
and was the former roommate of Machado on the far end.

Bottom Left, Rich O, was my college roommate,
I spent last weekend with him at the Dead concert in bay area.

Upper Left, was Mateaus, we lost track of him about 25 yrs ago.

I am the pinhead in the upper right, my hair is no longer that curly.
I think we were all trying to pose like one of the blue brothers clan.

#12139 8 years ago

Some various looks thru the ages
You will have to guess which is most current.

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#12180 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Here's a Foto Finish for $600-

Very challenging game

1 week later
#12290 8 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

I have a second woodrail.

Looks interesting, but could you give a quick rundown of the rules set.
Are those holes gobble holes or trap holes or kickout holes etc??
How does the point system work?

3 weeks later
#12515 8 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

1960s Williams El Toro

Its twice as nice of a game
than the BLY El Toro is.

I love my WMS 2P.

#12572 8 years ago

good caatch correcting the release date of the WMS Full House

2 weeks later
#12866 8 years ago

Ten Spot did not have retro modern cabinet with drink shelf.
I owned two of them, now in the Pacific Pinball Museum collection.

hey Glen you beat me to it by 3 seconds

#12925 8 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

all the reverse wedgeheads Williams

Own them all, or should say use to own them all,
as they are now part of the Pacific Pinball Museum collection.
But that was one of my main goals
when I was totally addicted to collecting
was to obtain all those WMS Reverse Wedgeheads
Felt so good to have finally accomplished it
Hard to say which of them are my favorites

#12942 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

the styling of the 60s cabinet are two of the most solid built EMs I have owned. The cabinets are built like brick shit houses.

Agreed, my WMS 1960 Jungle is built like a tank.
The only thing I generally do not like about most of the WMS "60's styling" CABs
are that the paint schemes are very dull, with two tone paint jobs with no real graphics.

2 weeks later
#13184 8 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

Red Velvet tends to hold up very well

Believe it or not
a few years ago
I bought a GTB AAB Big Top that had red velvet upholstery on the head and cabinet,
but original artwork was underneath after pulling the staples holding the velvet on.

#13264 8 years ago

I will always have a soft spot in my heart for this 1963 pin
as it was the first reverse wedgehead in my collection.

1 week later
#13337 8 years ago
Quoted from DirtFlipper:

What will be a disappointed seller in StL

A little bit of knowledge can lead someone in the wrong direction.
At least they knew the term woodrail (roodrail).

#13354 8 years ago

$350 for a 1960 WMS Jungle
Now that is a steal.

#13361 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Pinball-western $250

Pretty good price for a Quick Draw

#13376 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Looks to be the going rate for this title.

It says sold in the title now?
pinball machine sold - $250 (susanville \ reno)

1 week later
#13414 8 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

See Saw pin..
newjersey.craigslist.org link

What happened to the See Saw pin?, (link goes to different ad)
otherwise a great pin packed with lots of features

1 week later
#13477 8 years ago
Quoted from Pecos:

It's a lot different than Expo

Also looks like the left outlane might be set up for a kick back lane.

#13485 8 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

Here's an early wedgehead in North Jersey.

PF on that Tropic Isle is nice,
but going to need to find a repro BG

2 weeks later
#13560 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Argh mateys...

Congrats
Hope you got a extra good cash discount deal,
as the list price appeared to be a bit pricey
even with the game being in great shape.
The Bottom of the PF layout kinda reminds me of WMS Tradewinds

4 weeks later
#13730 8 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

Wow! You don't see the AAB of Travel Time very often.

Is it really an AAB, since Summertime and Traveltime just adds extra time (seconds) not extra balls??
or am i mis-remembering?

#13734 8 years ago

Besides Wisconsin and New York
what other states were AAB states?
Connecticut and Texas (or certain areas there-in) were also AAB regions, i believe;
any place else?

4 weeks later
#13968 8 years ago
Quoted from jodini:

Also part of this collection is two of these:
http://www.polzin.ca/
Never seen such a thing!

Very good info on the Midway Rotation VIII.
One of the few cocktail pins I was never able to find and own.

1 week later
#14089 8 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Ah Coquette

What group was Williams marketing this game to in the early 60's?
To me the ZAC Farfalla pin in the background is the more interesting game.

1 week later
#14157 8 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

What!? Better than Teacher's Pet? I need to try Doodle Bug.

Doodle Bug is very addicting. One of my favs.
Played its sister game 4P Dipsy Doodle at ArcadeExpo2.0.
Never been able to get the doodle point bonus (on the single player
past the 1000pts, very rarely get past 100pts

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#14298 8 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Williams '62 King Pin might be the best reverse-wedgehead from that period... certainly in the top three.

Right now the only WMS reverse wedgehead that i would rate higher than King Pin would be Heat Wave,
after playing both of Glen Peters' fine examples at his condo in Anaheim.

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#14351 8 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

Have you ever played River Boat? I own it, have played Heat Wave, and IMO River Boat is better.

I have owned a Riverboat, but shamefully never played it.
Main reason that i like HeatWave so much, is that Glen's example plays flawlessly;
strong flippers and lively pop bumpers,
making it feel that you can stay in control with some good nudges
and always have a chance to beat it.

#14365 8 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

I had a Zig Zag.

And then you sold it to me.
Need to find a good source for the little multi-colour balls,
as i am missing a couple, and would like some spares for Wing Ding also.

My fav WMS reverse wedgeheads in order of preference;
partially based on actual game play, some on artwork package and layout.
<I have owned them all>
(pins marked with *, I have not played enough to form true opinion or judgement)
Really can not go wrong with any one of these classics.

Heat Wave
Trade Winds
King Pin
Swing Time
Big Deal
Big Daddy
4 Roses
Wing Ding
Zig Zag
Beat the Clock
Soccer
Friendship 7
Skill Pool
Vagabond
River Boat*
Palooka*

#14420 8 years ago

One possible reason for CCoin pins getting no love,
is that they only made four 1Player games. (in the 60s-70s era)
With Kicker, ( a decent game), they tried copying the GTB wedgehead look.
but then failed with Action and Pirate Gold,
wasn't until GIN that they produced a single player worth playing.

#14421 8 years ago

Capt Fan up for auction in Portland
portland.craigslist.org link

#14422 8 years ago
Quoted from goldenboy232:

Barn of games near me in the Seattle area. Can tell what all of them are

Can anyone ID the game (head) next to the Spanish Eyes head?
appears to be a bowling theme.

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#14424 8 years ago

Left of the post are heads for WMS Super Star and Target Pool, I believe.

#14437 8 years ago
Quoted from bronco-jon:

Is $300 a good deal on a 1972 Gottlieb Wild Life?

This is O-din's favorite game.

#14440 8 years ago
Quoted from bronco-jon:

Not sure if that means yes or no????

Was meant to be a joke at O-din's expense, since he just loves Tarzan in Speedos.
$300 is about the max to pay for most any Multiplayer from that era in (7.5/10) condition.
Not the funnest playing game, but OK for a first time E/M purchase,
though fairly certain you will upgrade to something else in a few months
once the EM bug hits.
I do like the fact that it has both a right side ball save gate and a left side kickback,
but not much else to shoot for other than the spinner up the middle
and the rollovers on either side back to the top.
The pop bumper center ring never gets as lively as one might hope.
Best thing that I can say about the game, is that since it is a 2 player, it is more fun to compete.

#14442 8 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

a good starter or kids game

A fun game for kids is what i was thinking too.
I do own its AAB cousin, Jungle King, which has cooler PF artwork,
but for some reason GTB decided to leave out the spinner up the middle to the pop bumper ring?
I have always thought about adding it back in, should be that tough to engineer and wire.

#14446 8 years ago

Congrats
Be sure to get a new pinball and put on a couple coats of wax on the PF,
after you clean it up.
I am sure it will compliment your other games.

#14458 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Here's today's haul.

The woodrails are cool, but i got the feeling that Fashion Show will be gone before summer hits.
Only one real shot up the middle.
What did you get rid of again to make room for these?

#14462 8 years ago

50+ yr old pins in cherry near mint condition are hard to come by
and that does affect ones consideration for addition to ones collection.
Also if you sold it to a local friend, you might still get to play it on occasion.
Personally I probably would have kept the Captain Kidd,
as it is a better theme and at least looks like it may be more fun to play,
but I have not played more than a few games on either (so hard to really judge)
For Capt Kidd that was about 3-4 yrs ago when i visited RAPHAEL LANKAR's pinball museum in Paris
and Fashion Show experience was from some beater at PAGG years back.

What causes the bonus wheel to rotate?
Does it actually do a random spin or does it ratchet up one step at a time,
when you hit a certain target or rebound rubber or pop bumper.

#14475 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

"There goes that Williams guy again, off on a tangent"

Since you are the OP that started this topic thread, we give you some slack.

#14521 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Bo Bo will get here eventually

I think that I heard in an old past (Clay) interview, that BoBo is the game that Steve Kordek is least proud of.
I have owned one, but not too impressed with it.
It appears that it is a nudger game, so if you like those types then you might like it more.
Got to make sure your pops are plenty peppy and rebuild the flippers.
Best thing to me, was the "modern CAB styling" and bright colors on the PF&BG.

#14525 8 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Well, that's encouraging.

You have to weigh that against the fact that Space Mission is the game Steve is most proud of,
( besides probably Genco Triple Action for the then innovated flipper placement).

#14581 8 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Condition is everything in this hobby.

To a point, it is.
While I greatly admire people with the skill and patience to do restoration work,
I can be just as happy with a game that plays well (or as intended originally)
as long as the cosmetics do not detract from the overall look of the game.
A little PF wear or small amount of paint flake on the BG or CAB do not bother me much.
Some pins that are restored to "better than new",
can go too far to where all the bling and shininess can be just as distracting
(ala Herbized pins).

#14609 8 years ago

Eat some Humble Pie
to ease those 30 days in the Hole

rock on Odin

#14626 8 years ago

did you let them know that it does indeed HAVE FLIPPERS,
ALBEIT NOT CONVENTIONAL STYLE NOR IN THE NORMAL PLACEMENT.
sorry for CAPS

#14642 8 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

Coast deals

You will note that all these NW coast "deals"
are priced about $200-400 more than what one might expect
compared to "deals" east of the Mississippi.

#14647 8 years ago
Quoted from hoov:

Most Californian's I've dealt with want to buy two games from me because prices are better and shipping is just a little more than shipping one.

Being a former Californian, that is exactly how I acquired about 25% of my collection.
Buy 2 or more at a time ( at realistic prices) from same locale back east or midwest,
to get shipping discount.

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#14698 8 years ago
Quoted from Bill123:

I can't find any information on it. Is it a rare game? Is that a good price?

The PF is a WMS Ten Spot, which davideokills pointed out,
and Ten Spot is both a nice good fun game and kinda rare.

#14700 8 years ago
Quoted from rfordut:

finding a Ten Spot head might be tough.

Only really need the BackGlass

#14717 8 years ago

O-din welcome back
WMS EL Toro is a very good 2P pin.
Your BG looks very very nice,
mine has issues in the letters in the name.

1 week later
#14836 7 years ago

I was always a Western Flyer kind of guy,
mainly because the manager of the local Western Auto store lived across the street.
Besides I was not cool enough to carry off riding a Schwinn Sting Ray, let alone a krate.

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#14845 7 years ago
Quoted from EMsInKC:

LOL, someone made a nice chopper out of something there.

I believe that was an actual production model (albeit with special mod handle bars) and
It can be yours now for only $1500 on ebay.
< to the Mods: Sorry for this thread going so OT, but loving every minute of it>

not mine

ebay.com link: Rare 70s Western Flyer Murray RAM ROD King Kat Chopper Muscle Bike

#14861 7 years ago
Quoted from dfrazer:

Don't even consider this machine if you are in excellent health.....

I would be sure to offer at least $501,
to avoid a pummeling.

#14880 7 years ago
Quoted from monsonb:

only 300- 400 Mars Treks were made

That might be true regarding how many were actually imported to the states, but pretty sure more never left Europe.
Mars Trek is not all that uncommon a pin in the wild,
I have owned two over the years that kinda fell into my lap.
Good game regardless, as are most Sonic pins.

#14904 7 years ago

And this thread brings so much fun and joy to the group (especially when it goes OT),
whereas the only other thread to surpass this one in postings is the JPop thread which
only brings tears and jeers.

#14907 7 years ago

I think the Ghostbusters and the Skit-B threads are both just over 10K+ in 3rd place.

#14908 7 years ago

On Sale means way over priced to begin with
and now simply over priced.
Aurora is a hub for antique stores here just north of Salem.

CCoin Rawhide and GTB King Kool

"They are all ON SALE and price to sell or we will be sending them off to the auction."

a veiled threat

portland.craigslist.org link

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#14931 7 years ago
Quoted from Pecos:

Wild Card / EM 1 Player

Always wanted one of these.
Got a feeling the photos are from some other source,
or is this fella selling his whole collection prior to his move.

#14966 7 years ago

Heat Wave, as i have stated before elsewhere,
is my new favorite WMS EM from that era.

#14986 7 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

swing along????

Historically significant?

#14991 7 years ago

I am guessing it was a GTB EM,
by size/shape of flippers and ballguide arch

#15008 7 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

I'm guessing that isn't the pic of their actual machine.

Of the two images posted, both have different coin doors.

#15043 7 years ago
Quoted from jodini:

I counted 4 ems and a pretty nice looking pitch n bat.

CCoin Gin and CCoin Hollywood
WMS P&B Base Hit
GTB Humpty Dumpty
not sure what the other wood rail is ( with longhorn steer CAB)

#15058 7 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

Flip Flop is an OK, pin.

I pretty much agree with Reinie,
but might think a fully working super nice condition one might
get up to $700-750 in SoCal, to a pinball novice newbee.
A savvy pinball collector veteran probably would not pay more than $500.
What holds this game back is the game play is pretty basic.

#15064 7 years ago
Quoted from Pindufus:

Bally Loop The Loop

Excellent repaint job, too bad the BG is flaking and fading.

#15067 7 years ago
Quoted from marcgans:

newjersey.craigslist.org link

Now this Bally is priced right,
Though Amigo is again kinda boring, but better than Flip Flop IMHO.

#15072 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

might be worth it.

For the WMS early 60s lockdown bar alone!

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#15101 7 years ago
Quoted from 1974DeltaQueen:

Everyone forgets that Connecticut was the 3rd add a ball state .

I have also heard rumours that certain parts of Texas and Oklahoma
were AAB territory for a time.

1 week later
#15119 7 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

Moulin Rouge

Nice see thru blouse on the chick on the BG.

1 week later
#15153 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Ever since Vic first mentioned this game

WMS Lady Luck
Played it some at the NWPinball show on SAT.
Most of the Lady Lucks that i have seen tend to have bad BG along the bottom area.
Fairly intricate 2 player 2in flipper pin.
Wish the pop bumper ring near the top was a bit more action packed.
Did not play it long enough to find out to see if you "bust ( i.e. go over 21), if you play long enough to get the
card count score reels to come back around to 15-21 again to beat the dealer.

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#15182 7 years ago

Oh Boy!
Only game I would want is already sold.
But if $10K is truly price for all the rest (~33pins),
actually pretty good deal.

cheers
from another hoarder
(( ooopps, it was Spaceship that was already sold, not Oh Boy,
already have a Spaceship, though it could use a better BG))

#15202 7 years ago
Quoted from phil-lee:

seems like there are a lot more EM's on the West Coast

And do you know where all those pins originally came from?
The East Coast!

#15223 7 years ago
Quoted from Pecos:

Game/Type: Dogies / EM 4 Player

looks like it has some kind of repro BG

#15248 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Backglass looks a little rough

i always like my WMS Mardi Gras
set up next to my BLY Big Day,
another pin of similar theme;
never was able to complete the trifecta
with a GTB Masquerade.
Looks like the one listed on CL is missing most of the gold paint on the BG.
The goofball on the PF is both fun and creepy.

Also really liked the look of the hooded surround on the heads of those WMS multi-players from that era.

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#15288 7 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

This is me in 30-40 years

me in 10-15 yrs

3 weeks later
#15413 7 years ago
Quoted from ibuypinballs:

Big Ben in New Jersey with what looks to be a one off custom backglass.

Actually, i think the custom glass is an improvement over the original.

#15446 7 years ago

no internet or TV
just an excuse to play more pinball

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#15487 7 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Only 465 made? Geez. I guess that explains it. Honestly may try to seek somebody out to do this who has the space. Wish I had the shipping money up front though. That looks like a pretty Jive Time.

I think the pinside game archive claim of 465 produced
(for jive time) may not be substantiated,
at least according to other pinball sources.

1 week later
#15516 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Pinball and old arcade games. In a barn.

Midway Sky Raider has one of the best arcade art packages ever!!!

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#15609 7 years ago

Anything else interesting (EM or classic S/S)
show up at Captians auction in the OC today?

#15610 7 years ago

Were you tempted to bid on Whoa Nellie?

1 week later
#15667 7 years ago
Quoted from Pin-it:

1955 Williams Regatta - $600

I might be tempted if it was within easy driving distance,
as this is my birthday pin.
released in Aug 1955
some interesting rules set for woodrail.

1 month later
#15858 7 years ago
Quoted from Captive_Ball:

Williams Merry Widow

Drop targets and swinging targets
best of both worlds

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#15990 7 years ago

One of my favorite WMS short flipper games

#15991 7 years ago

Does it have some BG light animation
where Buffalo Bill Cody shoots a Bison
that lights up when certain feature is hit/scored?

#15998 7 years ago

actually its the other arcade pieces that are the most interesting
"Midway ""Slugger"" Baseball Arcade Game"
"Chicago Coin Machine Co. ""Super Par Golf"" Arcade Game"
"Bromley ""Little Pro"" Arcade Game "
"William's ""Mini-Bowl"" Arcade Game"
"Midway ""Race-Way"" Arcade Game"

#16008 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Pinwiztom and pinballprowess stopped by this afternoon and gave most of my games a pretty good workout.

Thank you Brian for your hospitality.
I 've been looking forward to SEEING AND PLAYING your collection for quite some time
and was not disappointed.
Very nice looking games for the most part and all played very well.
Liked Pinky a lot for a 1950 impulse flipper pin.
And came away with a slightly better appreciation of GTB Fashion Show
as a "more fun to compete" type of game.
Was sorry that the '63 WMS Big Deal was still in process of being refurbished, maybe next time.
cheers Tom

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#16031 7 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

So how do you feel about Gottlieb's "Square Head"?

or any of the objectified women on most every pinball BG and PF
since the beginning of time?

#16040 7 years ago

I am a full blooded "kraut" and i am not offended by squarehead,
even though its original intent (the term) was to diminish or offend.
I can see where minstrel man may tend to go over the line in today's society.
Not really offended by depiction of hillbillies (in lots of Parker BGs)
or palefaces donning indian headdress on pinball artwork packages
or the depiction of a page cut boy with traditional dress in clogs for Dutch Boy paint
or William Penn on Quaker Oats.
nor the depection of skinny pointy people and the fat guy on the Backglass on WMS Gulfstream.
But that is me, i tend to let things roll off my back and let it go.
My wife may not be thrilled with the general depiction of women on pinball artwork packages
emphasizing boobs and cleavage and micro waists, yet Elvira and Scared Stiff are her two favorite machines.

#16041 7 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I am part native American

I could see that when i finally meet you in person,
also for some reason i was thinking you were related to iggy pop too.

1 month later
#16167 7 years ago

BTC
4 flippers
with its huge gaps
is very challenging to play

I had two of them at one time
but had to junk one cause its cabinet and head was termite infested,
Saved the BG and the PF though
now at PPM

#16173 7 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

Gottlieb EM Fire Queen in NJ...

ouch
$2500
This is a desirable collectible pin
but it does not command that much of a premium
IMHO

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#16179 7 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

Here's one you don't see come up that often.
newjersey.craigslist.org link

Never knew that Ford Mustang came out in the 50s
or either that CCoin was physic.

but you are right, do not see this one often.

#16181 7 years ago

Looking closer at the PF and flyer for this CCoin game,
while the layout does not seem to be very fun
it did have two "ball saver" exit lanes (kickbacks)
on both right and the left outlanes and the revolving center target wheel
appears to be innovations
unless someone can come up with earlier pins with those features.

WMS Nags had the revolving table with pop bumpers
not sure about when kickbacks were introduced prior.

#16182 7 years ago

Without photos to confirm
ball saver
might actually be one where
once ball enters the out hole
it is kicked back up
to the PF between the flippers
(not unlike some italian AAB pins).

#16213 6 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

The old Ballys just keep on coming.

Big Day is a very tough game to beat.

#16256 6 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

backglass switch with that Sweet Hearts

BG is not perfect look at missing paint in top right corner near the T

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#16257 6 years ago

I like the BG layout of 2P Super Score
much better than the 4P Hi-Score

#16268 6 years ago

a mix of EMs
and some interesting SS games
for sale in Oregon
salem.craigslist.org link

1 week later
#16294 6 years ago

Looks like it still has some good white rubber on it.
A Little WD-40 and you are all good
(2nd pic) shows a can in hand already.

#16295 6 years ago

Realistically what all is actually salvagable off that game
( albeit still needing a polish and tumble or a little elbow grease to make usable).
The Ball Arch, Apron, Lockdown bar, Coin Door, Coin Box, Jewel Posts, Some Plastics, the Score Reel Assemblies
Some Pop bumper assemblies, The Carousal unit, (are there any drop down cards left in the backbox?),
assuming all that there, probably is at least about $100 in parts there.

#16308 6 years ago
Quoted from Chum43:

jumping in the car and heading down to grab this beauty up before some one beats me to it.

You can probably flip it quick
to cover your gas costs
and still have plenty of room for profit.

#16312 6 years ago

I think it is a very good looking, even beautiful game.

1 month later
#16355 6 years ago

Most any 2in flipper pin, if shopped and tuned up properly
can be both fun and challenging to play.
2in flipper games tend to incorporate the need for more nudging.
I think what may turn off most new generation players from 2in flips
is that most do not have the automatic feed back return lanes to the flippers,
so it is more challenging to set up shots.

#16387 6 years ago
Quoted from Agent_Hero:

like old farts aren't cool.

I take offense to that remark
as i am an old fart

#16400 6 years ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Challenger R/T in dark blue

Metallic Lime green or purple would be my choice of color

1 week later
#16438 6 years ago
Quoted from Pecos:

Pit Stop / EM 2 Player

Probably O-din's favorite 2P pin

3 weeks later
#16470 6 years ago
Quoted from monsonb:

I was thinking that same thing. Not my cup of tea, but fashion... it's fickle.

IT probably looked a whole lot "better" before the decoupage decals faded.

1 month later
#16559 6 years ago

King Rock
Hard to see much real detail from the photos
but this game is worth $500-600 tops in great condition.

With CAB repaint, that knocks it down $100-$200.
$400 would be a fair offer.

1 week later
#16590 6 years ago

Jumpin'Jack's looks fairly good
some fade of reds on BG
but did not notice any flaking
worst part is condition of warped plastics.

offer 'em $350

2 months later
#16661 6 years ago

While I agree that the Loop the Loop BG is fairly bland.
Looks like some graphic artist from Look or Life magazine
or from some ad house drew the figures on the BG.
But the PF is fairly innovative and amusing and colorful.
I have owned two of them, one the replay model and one a true AAB model.
AAB model has no credit wheel (& no cutout hole for such on BG)
and yes you can earn more than one ball per ball in play
and if tuned up correctly a very fun game.

#16665 6 years ago

It is one of those games where the
BG turns you away as bland or unappealing
but the PF draws you in.

#16667 6 years ago

I do not know if this pin qualifies as nice looking
but here is listing anyway (not mine)
salem.craigslist.org link

For sale sir Galahad pinball machine.
Have owned it for about 30 years it worked 25 years ago
haven't used since
350 or best offer. Needs a new cord.

#16685 6 years ago
Quoted from Mcshaney:

closer I'd be all over that

Whiner
your in same time zone and nearly same latitude

#16691 6 years ago

One could always meet about halfway in either Scranton PA or Poughkeepsie NY,
(maybe drop in and say hi to Steve Young at PBR.)

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#16965 6 years ago
Quoted from DropTarget:

Where did it start?

I think it came from France, as did the seller
as they are having a hard time translating ad copy to English

3 weeks later
#17011 5 years ago

Genco's South Pacific in Salem OR
salem.craigslist.org link

unfortunately game does not look as good in person as it does thru photos.
CAB is in very good shape, but it is
missing lockdown bar and back door missing key to coin door.
Slight paint flake on BG, I would rate it about 6.5/10
But what most turned me off was that it appears the PF had some water damage,
since some of the PF was starting to de-laminate.
Too much of a project, so i walked away,
but if you needed parts you might be able to offer $100 and owner likely would take it.

#17017 5 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

Delamination of playfield and those kick out insert rings aren't anywhere close to flush.

The delamination and areas of swelling on the PF killed it
Would need major work to get back to playable.
I saw the rat poop also, did not bother to look inside the wiring.
But if you had a Genco woodrail from same era, it might be good as parts backup.

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#17030 5 years ago

BG kinda reminds me of Mayfair, Parkers last game.

#17036 5 years ago

Only seen and played Lariat once before
that was at Expo in late 90s, I think it was Tom Taylor's
and it was for sale, though I think it was already sold
by the time I got to it.

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#17064 5 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

ebay.com link » Domino Pinball Machine By Gottlieb

$4570 really?

1 month later
#17083 5 years ago

http://www.pinballowners.com/67coronet

This GTB Glamor is kinda rare and apparently for sale
contact info thru pinballowners.com

not mine

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#17115 5 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

Still found it to be more fun than Space Time and that's not saying much.

The PF layouts are very similar RoGo vs. Space Time,
with Horseshoe loop replaced by Time Tunnel feature.

#17116 5 years ago
Quoted from CactusJack:

I will always throw Toledo into the Turd category. Another one, I would never own.

Bally's BigShow/Circus is another turdo.

#17131 5 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Wing Ding/Zig Zag

Not a turdo IMHO especially the AAB.

#17132 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I'm trying to think of what the first Gottlieb flipper game with an asymmetrical layout was. Perhaps you can help me on that.

Quoted from CactusJack:

For Gottlieb 60s - 70s, would that be Flip a Card? 60s games were a bit before my flipper years.

I think Polo & Mini Cycle came out the month prior to FlipaCard

after that it was Aquaris, Lawman, Big Indian, ElDorado, 300, Surfer, C37, Hit the Deck
I think

#17134 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

or am I missing one?

AGoGo is pretty near asymmetrical IMHO
Big Chief for WMS metal rails might qualify before AGoGo
WMS in 1970 with 3 Jokers might considered first metal rail that was truly (more fully) asymmetrical.
De-Icer came out about 10 months prior to Pinky, but only top third of PF is Asymmetrical.
Krynski did Keeney Arrowhead at his 1st asymmetrical design i think.
Need to look up CCoin now.

#17136 5 years ago

CCoin first (significantly asymmetrical) metal rail might be Top Ten/Gold Record

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#17191 5 years ago

If I was down in So Cal I would be hopping right on it.
Hopefully it will go to a good home, or eventualy find its way to your garage in the OC.

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#17224 5 years ago

That Playmatic Fairy kinda looks like the PF is based on GTB Jungle/Wild Life or BLY Flicker etc

#17226 5 years ago

not mine
ice reveiw and WMS 4 Roses
seems to be very fair prices
eugene.craigslist.org link

#17231 5 years ago
Quoted from Stoomer:

Yikes! What happened to that PF?? Looks like someone painted blue over much of the graphics...

Actually might be a proto type or AAB version
that did not have many graphics on the PF
https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=6374&picno=40217
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adding this 2nd photo (of standard?) game for comparison sake
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Too be fair the photo in the CL ad does appears to have some extra flower decals added to the PF

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#17250 4 years ago
Quoted from JethroP:

This came up yesterday and I snagged it!

My favorite AAB

4 months later
#17286 4 years ago

I like that Ranchero and the price is not too steep,
I would be tempted, but just bought another house
and do not really need another car or toy.

10 months later
#17353 3 years ago

Something weird about that Golden Bells BG
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My game's main background is white not blue.
Here is typical BG with White.
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#17355 3 years ago

I guess it could be due to fading, but all the Golden Bells games that I owned (2) and also played, all had the white background.
My current game's glass does have some Reds fading to pinkish but different shades of fade,
The white is just too uniform thruout to likely be due to fade.

#17358 3 years ago

The light blue must have been super susceptible to a quick fade, because prior to this every Golden Bells
that i have seen was always a bright white background, and at same time some usual red fading
but those reds always tended to fade to various shades of light red or pink or tan.
The fact that the white is so uniform gives me some cause for suspension of blue to white fading.

The BG does look better with white background, makes the WMS logo and games name really pop out better.

#17359 3 years ago

Would need to see if Duncan Brown or Pacak or Sam Harvey
might have some press photos of the orgiinal game, even in B&W one should be able to tell if background is blue or white.

From ipdb flyer
its still hard to tell
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But Based on the 500,000 and 50,000 scores, I might tend to agree that they might have been light blue on original games (samples/proto)
and maybe changed to white with regular production.

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#17410 2 years ago

Steal of the century

#17429 2 years ago

Love the fact that the Hay-Ride is an AAB and how AABs are counted with a credit wheel instead of lights as was normal.
Got to be very rare with probably less than 25 left in existence.
Only other one I have seen was in Sam Harvey collection.

#17433 2 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

"Wild Wheels" for example

My Wild Wheels has ser# WW1001
and the wiring harness has the wires
hard soldered from CAB to the Head, with no Jones plugs.
My goal this year, is to finally set it up for play,
now that my new flooring is installed in the basement.

#17435 2 years ago

Got to dig it out of storage first
also want to set my MataHari EM also
along with Team One and Dimension
and maybe moth ball a couple of the solid states
that do not get much play, mostly cause they are not working.
I have more confidence working on EMs than solid states.

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